1. Leaderless Holy Order 2. Dead Allies

[Aardvark Bellay]

Probably reported already, but her we go....

1. An incapable Hochmeister or whatever leader of a Holy Order, causes its army to be without one.

2. Both dead father and living son (same title/inherited by son) show up in "Allies".

 

[Gunnarr]

I have had some problem with holy orders before as well, though a bit different.

If a holy order is your vassal (as it is in some date starts in the Kingdom of Jerusalem) and you have him lead an army that is not his own (even by raising a levy in his demese, thus he leads one of his levies), his holy order army is permanently unable to be led directly. You cannot even tell the grandmaster to lead his own holy order army if he ever commands another at any time whilst that holy order army is raised. You can select a general to lead it, but once clicking the person to lead it does nothing, leaving the army without a leader.

The only way to fix this so far is to dismiss the army and raise it again.

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

I have had some problem with holy orders before as well, though a bit different.

If a holy order is your vassal (as it is in some date starts in the Kingdom of Jerusalem) and you have him lead an army that is not his own (even by raising a levy in his demese, thus he leads one of his levies), his holy order army is permanently unable to be led directly. You cannot even tell the grandmaster to lead his own holy order army if he ever commands another at any time whilst that holy order army is raised. You can select a general to lead it, but once clicking the person to lead it does nothing, leaving the army without a leader.

The only way to fix this so far is to dismiss the army and raise it again.

How about making the grandmaster resign in the levy army first ? Then it should be possible to appoint him.......i guess.:mellow:

 

[Gunnarr]

How about making the grandmaster resign in the levy army first ? Then it should be possible to appoint him.......i guess.:mellow:

I have tried that as well, but the holy order army just will not let anyone lead them if its original leader stops leading!

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

While it doesnt have anything to do with the leaderless holy order, your problem is so intriguing that i'm under the impression of having had the same issue with a mercenary army.
I had two mercenary armies in my army and it seemed as if one of these armies merged with the other mercenary army , while its leader was still in my levy army after i seperated the levy army from the merceneries.
Mysterious.:blink:

 

[Me_]

While it doesnt have anything to do with the leaderless holy order, your problem is so intriguing that i'm under the impression of having had the same issue with a mercenary army.
I had two mercenary armies in my army and it seemed as if one of these armies merged with the other mercenary army , while its leader was still in my levy army after i seperated the levy army from the merceneries.
Mysterious.:blink:

It does apply to mercenaries as well. It can easily be observed with Varanguian Guard. Hire them and raise your levies. Make the Captain of a guard a commander of one of the levies and you'll never be able to make him lead the guard again unless you disband and re-hire the guard.

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

Good to know, so i'm right and not crazy.
Now i feel better.
Still a bug.

Well somebody will read it or has it been reported anyway ?
I guess so.

 

[Ritzzz]

2. Both dead father and living son (same title/inherited by son) show up in "Allies".

Interestingly, I'm experiencing the same problems too. But it normally goes away after I re-start the save a couple of times.

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

Interestingly, I'm experiencing the same problems too. But it normally goes away after I re-start the save a couple of times.

Yup, it does seem to go away after restarting/reloading, didnt check when exactly. Sometimes its only the dead father, if by the relationship you're not allied anymore.