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"Base code" suggests something as major as your civics or traits.
It could perhaps be a way to turn your machine empire into the rogue servitor type...
 

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It could perhaps be a way to turn your machine empire into the rogue servitor type...
Wiz and the team have strayed away from the railroading of playstyles through Fallen Empire demands, I don't think we'd be forced to become one of the "extremist" factions.
 

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3/12 machine portraits - things are stepping up.
 

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Wiz and the team have strayed away from the railroading of playstyles through Fallen Empire demands, I don't think we'd be forced to become one of the "extremist" factions.
well you don't have to take the demand obviously. I'm just pointing out that they have methods to become the other two races, but no methods to become rogue servitors. In this case, we know that the machine FE is close to being a rogue servitor empire, so having them "improve" your code, could be a means to become a rogue servitor empire. Of course, you could refuse, and if that is the case, perhaps there is not too big a downside for refusing, or it's part of an event chain that you can start knowingly.
 

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My bet? The "code update" provides some tempting, delicious buffs, but also forces the empire to aid the Machine FE in its various endeavors.

Even if when it goes berserk.
 

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My bet? The "code update" provides some tempting, delicious buffs, but also forces the empire to aid the Machine FE in its various endeavors.

Even if when it goes berserk.
ooh, that would be cool too.
 

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Or it would just make battles micro-heavy, with reserve fleets standing in system next door and sending their ships whenever losses make space for them. I.E. doomstack in disguise.

Ad one titan per fleet policy.
Lets imagine you have two fleets of 30k power and one titan each. You send them into battle, and they take heavy losses. Now you have two fleets of 15k power and one titan each. You want to combine them, because you think 30k power is the minimal to make fleet battle-ready. But gasp! You cannot!
Sounds soo fun.
That's not what I was thinking of when I said supply limit, I was more thinking about each ship having on onboard supply of "food"(or energy if playing as robots) for it's crew that is consumed over time when away from friendly ports, and while at friendly a port recharges and consumes food from that planet's food production instead.

you can have extra supply storage on the ships, though you'd need to swap out shields or armor and other such utilizes to do so.

also, Wiz has said he wants to rework how borders work, maybe he'll make it so you need to actually patrol your claimed territory with your fleets in order to keep it? that way you have to split them up or else your claims to the outermost reaches of your empire will expire before the total combined fleet finishes making a full circle around the border, especially if it needs to make a pit stop or two along the way to resupply.
 

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What could possibly go wrong?
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https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/897846995502682112

No offense to Paradox artists, but I actually like Silfae's Machine portraits better but that's just me.

I mean these are excellent portraits but the ones Silfae made have a certain...hm...I'm not sure what the word is but let's just when I'm playing and I come up to an evil alien red robot with exposed cybernetic brain, I'm going to be thinking oh snap!

But don't get wrong everyone! I like these portraits too! Im just not sure which to go with that's all!
 

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well you don't have to take the demand obviously. I'm just pointing out that they have methods to become the other two races, but no methods to become rogue servitors. In this case, we know that the machine FE is close to being a rogue servitor empire, so having them "improve" your code, could be a means to become a rogue servitor empire. Of course, you could refuse, and if that is the case, perhaps there is not too big a downside for refusing, or it's part of an event chain that you can start knowingly.
That's the part I'm worried about. :p. I just hope it's not a choice of which kind of screwing I take.
 

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So question for devs.(If they read this)
Would there be any unique interaction between an Empire that went the "Uploaded Synths" route and are formally organic and completely synthetic Empires.

Basically former organic now uploaded machine meets intelligent machine.
Would they view each other as comrades or as abominations?
Just a thought.
 

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So question for devs.(If they read this)
Would there be any unique interaction between an Empire that went the "Uploaded Synths" route and are formally organic and completely synthetic Empires.

Basically former organic now uploaded machine meets intelligent machine.
Would they view each other as comrades or as abominations?
Just a thought.
My guess is eradicators would have an uneasy tolerance or are at least capable of a little diplomatic interaction (maybe -100 opinion but diplomacy is available?), assimilators would view them as comrades or are at least tolerant of them, servitors probably wouldn't feel all that different, and the basic empire would probably have slightly less opinion penalty.
 

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I mean, it's a neat idea, but in mechanics how would it differ from just playing as materialists? Just turning spiritualists into a carbon copy of materialists doesn't seem like it would add much to the game.
In the Warhammer 40k Lore the Tech Priest believe that a True AI is impossible to create(because ignorant dark age future) and as such take on a far more immoral path of pretty much turning brains into a synthetic blank slate and creating cyborgs, thats whats with all the floating skull heads in Imperial Art.

You should consult the Machine Spirit on this issue
 

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In the Warhammer 40k Lore the Tech Priest believe that a True AI is impossible to create(because ignorant dark age future) and as such take on a far more immoral path of pretty much turning brains into a synthetic blank slate and creating cyborgs, thats whats with all the floating skull heads in Imperial Art.

You should consult the Machine Spirit on this issue
They don't think it's impossible, it's forbidden because they think all AI is evil. They are not correct, but given their history it's real easy to see how they came to believe that- the Dark Age of Technology ended in a huge AI revolt followed up by warp storms.
 

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So question for devs.(If they read this)
Would there be any unique interaction between an Empire that went the "Uploaded Synths" route and are formally organic and completely synthetic Empires.

Basically former organic now uploaded machine meets intelligent machine.
Would they view each other as comrades or as abominations?
Just a thought.
Comrades
However, unlike Fanatical Purifiers, they have no problem co-existing and co-operating with other synthetic civilizations (including other Machine Empires and ascended Synths).
If even Determined Exterminators see them as equal then so does everyone else.
 

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They don't think it's impossible, it's forbidden because they think all AI is evil. They are not correct, but given their history it's real easy to see how they came to believe that- the Dark Age of Technology ended in a huge AI revolt followed up by warp storms.
And the Revolt itself has a decent chance to have been caused by Chaos. Especially since around the same exact time was when Slannesh was born.
 

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they think all AI is evil. They are not correct
- AI is good? Sorry but i cant understand your logic here, in 40k universe AI led genocidal war against his creators how is in-universe notion that AI is bad is incorrect?

If even Determined Exterminators see them as equal then so does everyone else.
- in Stellaris machines are more tolerant than biological species.:) But i wonder should not Devouring Swarm ignore mechanical empires too? After all here are nothing to devour for them... Especially since mechanical empires can now "kill" ecosystems of their own worlds.
 

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- AI is good? Sorry but i cant understand your logic here, in 40k universe AI led genocidal war against his creators how is in-universe notion that AI is bad is incorrect?
Tau use tons of AI (i.e. drones), and they all do exactly what they're supposed to do (usually implied that the AIs recognize the concept of the Higher Good and pursue it just as any member of the Tau Alliance). Aka, they are not automatically evil and try to murder their creators at every opportunity, which is what the techpriests believe all AIs to aspire.