[1.8] Patriarch Authority events frequency

[rmc]

The frequency of the the patriarch authority events have been drastically reduced on this patch?

I remember with Ottomans, or Muscovy, getting the Authority to 100% or something close to that in the first 100 years or so. Now I'm in a Russia game, the year is 1610 and I'm stuck at 25%. In all events I chose to raise the PA.

It's just the RNG against me, or the frequency really have been reduced?

(It's not a complaint, just a question)

 

[nicechinos]

The frequency of the the patriarch authority events have been drastically reduced on this patch?

I remember with Ottomans, or Muscovy, getting the Authority to 100% or something close to that in the first 100 years or so. Now I'm in a Russia game, the year is 1610 and I'm stuck at 25%. In all events I chose to raise the PA.

It's just the RNG against me, or the frequency really have been reduced?

(It's not a complaint, just a question)

It is because these events (if you agree to lose authority) bring you stability, moneys (quite nice amounts) and legitimacy.

 

[Kh3lben]

I thought RNG was working against me too. 50 years - 1 event.

 

[rmc]

It is because these events (if you agree to lose authority) bring you stability, moneys (quite nice amounts) and legitimacy.

That's not my question, I'm familiar with the mechanics of Orthodox.

I thought RNG was working against me too. 50 years - 1 event.

So, apparently they changed this. Or is a side effect (intended or not).

 

[Redron]

That's not my question, I'm familiar with the mechanics of Orthodox.



So, apparently they changed this. Or is a side effect (intended or not).

Same here, 50 years, 1 event.

 

[Ranjid]

Mh, did any of these events fire twice for you? I've played 2 orthodox games in AoW and in neither I got the same event twice. Maybe there's a bug preventing it?

 

[Steelers1990]

In my BYZ game it was almost 1750 before I got to 100%. But I did take some of the lose to get the bonus's of inflation decrease or stab increase. I think that the mtth was increased.

 

[Lindorn]

The events have definitely been reduced dramatically. I think they needed to be reduced, but I also think they went a little too far down that path. Paradox tends to swing wildly in these situations in my experience

 

[Kh3lben]

I don't think this is intentional.It makes no sense for it to be.Not when Catholics got this huge buff through their new mechanics and the Muslim events frequency seems unchanged.

 

[FrosT37]

The frequency of the the patriarch authority events have been drastically reduced on this patch?

I remember with Ottomans, or Muscovy, getting the Authority to 100% or something close to that in the first 100 years or so. Now I'm in a Russia game, the year is 1610 and I'm stuck at 25%. In all events I chose to raise the PA.

It's just the RNG against me, or the frequency really have been reduced?

(It's not a complaint, just a question)

It's not the RNG god. The MTTH must have been increased.

 

[rmc]

Mh, did any of these events fire twice for you? I've played 2 orthodox games in AoW and in neither I got the same event twice. Maybe there's a bug preventing it?

I can't confirm this. I don't remember what event fired or not. But I checked the files and there is only 5 of them. I'm with 25% of PA, so it could be possible that fired only one of each.

In my BYZ game it was almost 1750 before I got to 100%. But I did take some of the lose to get the bonus's of inflation decrease or stab increase. I think that the mtth was increased.

I checked the files, all Orthodox events are triggered only, and the only reference for is the same as 1.7, on_thri_yearly_pulse random_events.
Now the chance is 10 for each, in 1.7 it was 100 for each. So they really drastically reduced the chance.

Now my question is: WAD or oversight? Because the only reference for the Orthodox events on the patchnotes are:

- Orthodox flavor events are now a bit more interesting

It would be nice if the devs comment on this.

 

[hwoosh]

It is because these events (if you agree to lose authority) bring you stability, moneys (quite nice amounts) and legitimacy.

That's not my question, I'm familiar with the mechanics of Orthodox.

I think you missed his point. Presumably they reduced the frequency of these events because it is now possible to get these nice bonuses from them; they didn't want people sitting at 0 P.A. and "farming" random events at the old frequency for free bonuses with no downside.

 

[hashinshin]

In pre-patch games I've raised myself to 100%, lowered to 0%, then raised to 100% again before 1700.

Nowadays? Not so much.

 

[rmc]

In pre-patch games I've raised myself to 100%, lowered to 0%, then raised to 100% again before 1700.

Nowadays? Not so much.

Orthodox more static than ever :sad:.

 

[Suzaku]

Orthodox more static than ever :sad:.

It's because devs hate Byzantium!

 

[Jorlaan]

I played about 60 years in to a Muscovy game and I also only got 2 orthodox events. I had also wondered if they had significantly lowered the chance or if I was being unlucky. This makes me even more curious seeing others with the same issue.

 

[Lord Finnish]

It should be hard for Byz to increase authority IMO. Byzantium should have to earn its position as the moral leader of the Orthodox world.

Once you expand to Jerusalem, Rome, Antioch and other holy sites you easily bump authority to 100.

 

[artemis667]

So it's not just me. A shame really - the whole point of having sliders for patriarch authority and piety is that the player has opportunities to adjust them for strategic purposes. When those opportunities don't present themselves - and when they do, you can only move it marginally - you might as well not have the slider in the first place

 

[rmc]

It should be hard for Byz to increase authority IMO. Byzantium should have to earn its position as the moral leader of the Orthodox world.

Once you expand to Jerusalem, Rome, Antioch and other holy sites you easily bump authority to 100.

That's not the point. The point is have a slider with no chances do adjust your strategy in different points of the game. Now you have no choice but max the PA every event if you ever want to reach 100%.

 

[Ranjid]

It should be hard for Byz to increase authority IMO. Byzantium should have to earn its position as the moral leader of the Orthodox world.

Once you expand to Jerusalem, Rome, Antioch and other holy sites you easily bump authority to 100.

You know...there are countries besides Byzantium with PA. Currently is quite easy for Byz to get above 80% PA. Serbia? Not so much.