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In leaders.ayu you have this:

Code:
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 016305 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Taksin"
	startdate = {
		year = 1762
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 7
		month = april
		year = 1775
	}
	dormant = yes
	rank = 0
	movement = 6
	fire = 3
	shock = 5
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Thai Hero"
}

Why is there a dormant = yes and a dormant = no in the same leader?

In the Ayutthaya event file you have:

Code:
#(1763-1779) Taksin: a Thai Hero
event = {
	id = 120014 #triggered by AYU_120013
	random = no
	country = AYU
	name = "EVENTNAME120014" #Taksin: a Thai Hero
	desc = "EVENTHIST120014"
	#-#Despite their overwhelming victory, the Burmese didn't retain control of Siam for long. Attacks on Burma's northern borders compelled the Burmese to withdraw most of their forces, and Thai tenacity in rebounding from setback combined to shorten the period of Burmese domination. Giving meaning to an ancient proverb that 'Ayutthaya never lacks good men', a young general named Phya Tak Sin gathered a small band of followers during the final Burmese siege of the Thai capital. He recognized the hoplessness of the Siamese situation under the effete King and his decadent entourage. So instead of waiting for the holocaust to envelop the city, he and his comrades broke through the Burmese encirclement and escaped to Chanthaburi, on the southeast coast of the Gulf of Thailand. There, Phya Tak Sin assembled an army and navy. Seven months after the fall of Ayutthaya, the general and his forces sailed back to the capital and expelled the Burmese occupiers.

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME120014A" #Kick out the Burmese
		command = { type = breakvassal which = MYA } #just in case
		command = { type = domestic which = land value = 2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = offensive value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = quality value = 2 }
		command = { type = land value = 1000 }
		command = { type = CAV which = -1 value = 9000 }
		command = { type = INF which = -3 value = 25000 }
		command = { type = transports which = -1 value = 10 }
		command = { type = warships which = -3 value = 5 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 120016 } #AYU: Move to Bangkok
		command = { type = trigger which = 136016 } #MYA: Expelled from Ayutthaya
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME120014B" #Let us still bow down
		command = { type = relation which = MYA value = 50 }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 136015 } #MYA: Sack of Ayutthaya
	}
}

Is this event supposed to wake Taksin? I propose adding

Code:
command = { type = wakeleader which = 016305 } #Taksin

to action_a and removing the dormant = no from the leader file.
 
The Mughal leader Aurangzeb (1660 -14 March 1707) is a general but during that time he was a monarch. Is this intentional?

You're right, probably a mistaken copy over from the pre-monarch Aurangzeb leader entry.

Should be the following:

Code:
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 090311 }
	category = [color=red]general[/color] [color=yellow]monarch[/color]
	name = "Aurangzeb"
	startdate = {
		year = 1660
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 14
		month = march
		year = 1707
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 5
	siege = 2
	dormant = no
}
 
You're right, probably a mistaken copy over from the pre-monarch Aurangzeb leader entry.

Apparently this one has been copied over the vanilla Nguyen Hue

Code:
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 040805 }
	category = [COLOR="Red"]general[/COLOR] [COLOR="Yellow"]monarch[/COLOR]
	name = "Quang Trung"
	startdate = {
		year = 1788
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 1
		month = june
		year = 1792
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 5
	fire = 3
	shock = 5
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "Emperor of Dai Viet; routed Chinese invaders"
}

EDIT: For consistency's sake:

Code:
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 040530 }
	startdate = {
		day = 15
		month = september
		year = 1788
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 1
		month = june
		year = 1792
	}
	name = "[COLOR="Red"]Nguyen Hue[/COLOR]" "[COLOR="Yellow"]Quang Trung[/COLOR]"
	DIP = 8
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
}

Or should both of these be put to Nguyen Hue, his original name? I also put Quang Trung's deathdate as a leader to 1st of June 1792, his deathdate as monarch.

Furthermore, should his ADM be increased to 7 or 8? From what I understand, he introduced some reforms like adopting the old administration of the Le dynasty and trying to reduce the influence of the Chinese script. Quite successfully, though less so in the latter. Perhaps his diplomatic rating should be reduced to 6? He wasn't exactly popular in all of "Vietnam", since the Lê dynasty was seen as the legitimate dynasty and the Tây Sơn as usurpers. However, he tried to keep friendly relations with the Qing which IMHO earns him a 6 at least.

Ah, well, I'm going beyond bugfixing.
 
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trying to correct my own descriptions... just the very badly written as for now...

EVENTHIST125036;Under the Will of Maria Theresia's grandfather under which her father Karl took the throne, the Elector of Bavaria would have had the legal claim to all of the Austrian domains in the Empire. Upon the death of Maria's father, Duke Karl Albert of Bavaria would have been elected Emperor and proclaimed Archduke of Austria and King of Bohemia where he had a claim there through both the will of Leopold of Austria and a treaty with the House of Habsburg stipulated in the 16th century.;;;;;;;;;;


to be modified with these new lines:


EVENTHIST125036;According to the Will of Joseph, Maria Theresia's grandfather, under which his son and Maria Theresia's father Karl took the throne, the Elector of Bavaria would have the legal claim to all of the Austrian domains in the Empire (as per the Salic Law which precluded royal inheritance by a woman). So, upon the death of Karl II of Habsburg, Karl Albert of Wittelsbach should have been elected Emperor and legitimatedly proclaimed Archduke of Austria and King of Bohemia. In facts, even in Bohemia he had a claim through a treaty stipulated with the House of Habsburg in the 16th century, successively confirmed by Leopold of Austria.;;;;;;;;;;



I hope it'll be easier to understand.
 
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Or should both of these be put to Nguyen Hue, his original name? I also put Quang Trung's deathdate as a leader to 1st of June 1792, his deathdate as monarch.

Furthermore, should his ADM be increased to 7 or 8? From what I understand, he introduced some reforms like adopting the old administration of the Le dynasty and trying to reduce the influence of the Chinese script. Quite successfully, though less so in the latter. Perhaps his diplomatic rating should be reduced to 6? He wasn't exactly popular in all of "Vietnam", since the Lê dynasty was seen as the legitimate dynasty and the Tây Sơn as usurpers. However, he tried to keep friendly relations with the Qing which IMHO earns him a 6 at least.

Ah, well, I'm going beyond bugfixing.
This should be discussed in corresponding regional thread here, including name.
 
Some minor corrections in ENG and SCO event files.

Code:
#(1794) The Trial of the Leading Radicals - Pitt
event = {
	id = 21008
	trigger = {
		event = 21016 [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG: Pitt is Prime Minister[/COLOR]
		event = 21007 [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG: English Radicals Support the French Revolution - Pitt[/COLOR]
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21008" #The Trial of the Leading Radicals
	desc = "EVENTHIST21008"


	date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1794 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1794 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21008A" #They Are Found Not Guilty!
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 1 }
	}
}

#(1792) English Radicals Support the French Revolution - Pitt
event = {
	id = 21007
	trigger = { event = 21016 } [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG: Pitt is Prime Minister[/COLOR]
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21007" #English Radicals Support the French Revolution
	desc = "EVENTHIST21007"

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1792 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21007A" #Suppress the Radical Societies
		command = { type = treasury value = -100 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21007B" #Let the Radicals Preach
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 1 }
		command = { type = manpower value = -10 }
		command = { type = provincemanpower which = 247 value = -1 } #Anglia
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 21008 } #ENG: The Trial of the Leading Radicals
	}
}



#(1801) Charles Grey
event = {
	id = 21026
	trigger = { event = 21017 } [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG : Fox is Prime Minister[/COLOR]
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21026" #Charles Grey
	desc = "EVENTHIST21026"
	

	date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1801 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21026A" #Charles Grey Becomes Prime Minister
		command = { type = ADM which = 2 value = 103 }
		command = { type = MIL which = -2 value = 52 }
	}
}


#(1799) Reaction to the Rise of Napoléon
event = {
	id = 21012
	trigger = {
		event = 21017 [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG : Fox is Prime Minister[/COLOR]
		event = 21019 [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG : The Rise of Napoléon[/COLOR]
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21012" #Reaction to the Rise of Napoléon
	desc = "EVENTHIST21012"
	

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1799 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1799 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21012A" #Fox Does Not Consider Napoléon an Usurper
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 100 }
		command = { type = manpower value = -20 }
	}
}



#(1797) Parliamentary Reform
event = {
	id = 21015
	trigger = {
		event = 21017 [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG : Fox is Prime Minister[/COLOR]
		NOT = {	war = { country = ENG country = FRA } }
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21015" #Parliamentary Reform
	desc = "EVENTHIST21015"


	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1797 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21015A" #Adopt the Reform Bill
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21015B" #Now is Not the Time
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 2 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
	}
}


#(1792) Fox Expresses Support for the English Radicals
event = {
	id = 21013
	trigger = { event = 21017 } [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG : Fox is Prime Minister[/COLOR]
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21013" #Fox Expresses Support for the English Radicals
	desc = "EVENTHIST21013"

	date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1792 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21013A" #Reform is a Necessity
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 50 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = manpower value = -20 }
		command = { type = provincemanpower which = 247 value = -1 } #Anglia
		command = { type = provincetax which = 247 value = 1 } #Anglia
	}
}

#Fox Alternative Sequence

#(1790) War Erupts Between England and France
event = {
	id = 21014
	trigger = {
		event = 21017 [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG : Fox is Prime Minister[/COLOR]
		war = { country = ENG country = FRA }
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21014" #War Erupts Between England and France
	desc = "EVENTHIST21014"

	date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1790 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21014A" #England is at War with France
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = manpower value = -20 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 1 }
	}
}

#(1776) Adam Smith publishes 'The Wealth of Nations' - Flavor
event = {
	id = 5051
	trigger = {
		NOT = {
			exists = SCO
			event = 20400 [COLOR="Yellow"]#SCO: Adam Smith publishes 'The Wealth of Nations'[/COLOR]
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME5051" #Adam Smith publishes 'The Wealth of Nations'
	desc = "EVENTHIST5051"

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1776 }
	offset = 200
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1776 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = domestic which = MERCANTILISM value = -2 }
	}
}

#(1776) Adam Smith publishes 'The Wealth of Nations' - Flavor
#by Johnny Canuck
event = {
	id = 20400
	trigger = {
		NOT = { event = 5051 } [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG: #Adam Smith publishes 'The Wealth of Nations'[/COLOR]
	}
	random = no
	country = SCO
	name = "EVENTNAME5051" #Adam Smith publishes 'The Wealth of Nations'
	desc = "EVENTHIST5051"

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1776 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = domestic which = MERCANTILISM value = -2 }
	}
}

#(1437) The Warring Nobles
#by George Borges - Scripted by Johnny Canuck
event = {
	id = 20414
	trigger = { event = 3070 } [COLOR="Yellow"]#SCO: The Assassination of James I[/COLOR]
	random = no
	country = SCO
	name = "EVENTNAME20414" #The Warring Nobles
	desc = "EVENTHIST20414"


	date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1437 }
	offset = 150
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1437 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 236 value = 2 } #The Highlands
	}
}

#(1449) The End of the Fighting Amongst the Nobles
#by George Borges - Scripted by Johnny Canuck
event = {
	id = 20417
	trigger = {
		event = 20414 [COLOR="Yellow"]#SCO: The Warring Nobles[/COLOR]
		monarch = 0119504 #James II
	}
	random = no
	country = SCO
	name = "EVENTNAME20417" #The End of the Fighting Amongst the Nobles
	desc = "EVENTHIST20417"

	date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1449 }
	offset = 100
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1450 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 236 value = -2 } #The Highlands
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
	}
}

#(1750) David Hume - Flavor
#by Johnny Canuck
event = {
	id = 20401
	trigger = {
		NOT = { event = 5052 } [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG: David Hume [/COLOR]
	}
	random = no
	country = SCO
	name = "EVENTNAME5052" #David Hume
	desc = "EVENTHIST5052"

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1750 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
	}
}
 
Bugfix in English leader file:

Code:
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 046397 }
	category = general
	[COLOR="Red"]rank = 1[/COLOR]
	name = "Lord Hastings"
	startdate = {
		year = 1461
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 13
		month = june
		year = 1483
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = yes
}
 
minor corrections in ENG event file :

Code:
#(1573) The Panamanian Silver Train
event = {
	id = 21039
	trigger = { event = 21037 } [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG : Elizabeth's Support of the Privateering of Sir Francis Drake[/COLOR]
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21039" #The Panamanian Silver Train
	desc = "EVENTHIST21039"
	#-#In 1572 and 1573, Sir Francis Drake and a small group of Englishmen, assisted by escaped slaves known as Cimaroons, raided along the Mexican coast. In a stunning coup, they captured a large mule train laden with gold and silver inbound to Nombre de Dios, and gained an incredible amount of treasure.

	date = { day = 9 month = august year = 1573 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21039A" #Plunder? What Plunder?
		command = { type = treasury value = 200 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 21040 } #SPA: Drake Strikes the Panamanian Silver Train
	}
}


#(1580) Drake's Circumnavigation
event = {
	id = 21041
	trigger = { event = 21037 } [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG : Elizabeth's Support of the Privateering of Sir Francis Drake[/COLOR]
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21041" #Drake's Circumnavigation
	desc = "EVENTHIST21041"
	#-#In 1577, Sir Francis Drake was commissioned to sail to the western coast of the Americas to seek treasure and spices. After passing the Strait of Magellan, he caught the Spanish completely by surprise. For months, Drake sailed up and down the Pacific coast of the Americas, sacking towns like Lima and Valparaiso, and seizing the galleon 'Cacafuego', with its large cargo of treasure. Drake then crossed the Pacific and returned home to England.

	date = { day = 28 month = september year = 1580 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21039A" #Plunder? What Plunder?
		command = { type = treasury value = 250 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 21042 } #SPA: Drake in the Pacific
	}
}



#(1586) Drake's Triumphs
event = {
	id = 21043
	trigger = { event = 21037 } [COLOR="Yellow"]#ENG : Elizabeth's Support of the Privateering of Sir Francis Drake[/COLOR]
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21043" #Drake's Triumphs
	desc = "EVENTHIST21043"
	#-#In 1585 and early 1586, Sir Francis Drake, operating with letters of marque from Elizabeth, conducted a series of operations that electrified England and infuriated Spain. He raided Vigo, the Canaries, and the Cape Verde Islands, then crossed the Atlantic and attacked Hispaniola and Cartagena. He returned to England with a vast amount of plunder.

	date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1586 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21039A" #Plunder? What Plunder?
		command = { type = treasury value = 300 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 21044 } #SPA: Drake Strikes in Spain and the Americas
	}
}
 
While it's completely useless, still:

Code:
#(1423) Rejection at Amiens
event = {
	id = 164175 #triggered by BUR_137063 [COLOR="Red"]N[/COLOR] [COLOR="Yellow"]B[/COLOR]
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME164175" #Rejection at Amiens
	desc = "EVENTHIST164175"
	#-#At Amiens, Bedford had approached Philip and John VI with a proposal for an alliance between the three dukes. At Amiens, Bedford had proposed a marriage alliance and so Philip offered his sisters Anne and Margaret to Bedford and Arthur of Brittany, Earl of Richmond, respectively. However, after some deliberation, the French dukes reversed their dispositions and rejected Bedford's proposal. Philip's refusal dealt a significant blow to the legitamacy of England's rule in France.

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME164175A" #Treacherous upstarts!
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 384 } #Caux
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 6 value = 3 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = BUR value = 12 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = BRI value = 12 }
		command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRI value = -25 }
	}
}
 
bug?

Thanks for making this great mod!

I'm playing AGCEEP 157 (EUII 1.09). I'm playing Poland. Each time the game hits event 3290 (3291) the game crashes, but only after I mouse over the 'Agree to .... ' choice. Since there seems to be A LOT of text in the mouseover popup, I suspect that this is the reason.

I did a search on this event (that's how I found out the event number). I also came up with this in the 'history.txt' file

1560-00-06 : Game Speed set to Normal
1560-00-18 : January 19, 1560 : §YLivonian Order went with §WPolish-Swedish Agreement§Y in The Fate of the Livonian Order.
1560-00-18 : January 19, 1560 : §YSweden went with §WAccept Agreement§Y in The Fate of the Livonian Order.
1560-00-18 : January 19, 1560 : §YDenmark went with §WAccept the Agreement§Y in The Fate of the Livonian Order.
1560-00-18 : January 19, 1560 : §YRussia went with §WAccept the Agreement§Y in The Fate of the Livonian Order.

I'd like to get past this, so any help would be appreciated!
 
Welcome to the forums, sorry for the late reply but Yoda is currently very busy because of this.

I think it has more to do with the vassal command in POL_3470 A directed towards a tag (KUR) just created by the country command in LIV_3620 A. 3290 and 3291 are Danish events and I don't think they are involved in the CTD because the history log you provided shows that 3290 fired just fine.

I'll see what I can find tomorrow as the hour is just too late now. Hope you're still hanging there by the way. :)
 
First post in a very long time... well, I thought I'd avoid making to big of a fuss over it, but for the record, I've finally (after more than three years) gone back to playing EU2 with the AGCEEP, which also inevitably means thinking about what to do for the mod again. For now, just a small thing I noticed about an event description (that iirc I wrote myself :eek:o); I hope I'll make more substantial remarks and suggestions again soon, but you have to start somewhere, and I thought I'd try a few games with the mod in its current state (which seems a lot improved since when I left it) before putting my foot in my mouth with silly ideas that have already been adressed :)
So, here goes my little bug report:
In the Sale of Neumark events (LAT_209000 and BRA_132101), the desc mentions days and months on which things actually happened, but not the years, which I think is rather confusing.
Suggested changes are bold.
Code:
EVENTHIST209000;The Neumark, originally the part of Brandenburg east of the Oder 
river, had been mortgaged to the Teutonic Order by Emperor Sigismund in 1402. In 
the desperate financial, political and military situation caused by the uprising of the Prussian 
Lizard League and the intervention of Casimir of Poland in favour of the rebels [b]in 1454[/b],
the Order decided it would be better to sell Neumark back to the Elector of Brandenburg in order
to gain some money and his support than to loose the territory to the Polish King who was 
obviously attracted by the opportunity to restore the Oder as border with Germany. Thus on 
February 22nd [b]1454[/b] emissaries of the Order offered the territory to Friedrich II for 40000 
Gulden. The elector accepted gladly and on April 5th took the oaths of allegiance from the estates
of Neumark in Neu-Landsberg.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST132101;The Neumark, originally the part of Brandenburg east of the Oder, 
had been mortgaged to the Teutonic Order by Emperor Sigismund in 1402. In the desperate 
financial, political and military situation caused by the uprising of the Prussian Lizard League
and the intervention of Casimir of Poland in favour of the rebels [b]in 1454[/b], the Order 
decided it would bebetter to sell Neumark back to the Elector of Brandenburg in order to gain 
some money and his support than to lose the territory to the Polish King who was obviously 
attracted by the opportunity to restore the Oder as border with Germany. Thus on February 
22nd [b]1454[/b] emissaries of the Order offered the territory to Friedrich II for 40000 Gulden. 
The elector accepted gladly and on April 5th took the oaths of allegiance from the estates of 
Neumark in Neu-Landsberg. After half a century of division, the unity of the three marches that 
constitute Brandenburg was restored.;;;;;;;;;;
This would be the simple solution. Since the event can (and usually does) trigger long before 1454, it might be nicer to have a more generic text in addition to an explanation when this actually happened - something like this:
Code:
EVENTHIST209000;The Neumark, originally the part of Brandenburg east of the Oder 
river, had been mortgaged to the Teutonic Order by Emperor Sigismund in 1402. Facing 
defeat against the superior armies of the King of Poland, it might be desirable to sell 
the Neumark back to the Elector of Brandenburg in order to gain some money and his support 
instead of just losing it without compensation to the Polish King who is obviously attracted by 
the opportunity to restore the Oder river as border with Germany. 
Historically, faced with this decision in the desperate financial, political and military situation 
caused by the uprising of the Prussian Lizard League and the intervention of Casimir of Poland 
in favour of the rebels in 1454, the Order chose the former option. Thus on February 
22nd 1454 emissaries of the Order offered the territory to Friedrich II of Brandenburg 
for 40000 Gulden. The elector accepted gladly and on April 5th took the oaths of allegiance 
from the estates of Neumark in Neu-Landsberg.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST132101;The Neumark, originally the part of Brandenburg east of the Oder 
river, had been mortgaged to the Teutonic Order by Emperor Sigismund in 1402. Facing 
defeat against the superior armies of the King of Poland, the Order has decided to offer 
the Neumark back to the Elector of Brandenburg in order to gain some money and his 
support instead of just losing it without compensation to the Polish King who is obviously 
attracted by the opportunity to restore the Oder river as border with Germany. 
Historically, the Order took this decision in the desperate financial, political and military 
situation caused by the uprising of the Prussian Lizard League and the intervention of 
Casimir of Poland in favour of the rebels in 1454. Thus on February 22nd 1454 emissaries 
of the Order offered the territory to Friedrich II of Brandenburg for 40000 Gulden. The elector 
accepted gladly and on April 5th took the oaths of allegiance from the estates of Neumark 
in Neu-Landsberg.;;;;;;;;;;
 
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Since most of the dates happen in 1454, why is it really necessary to include those dates? I think the original text is intelligible without them.
The "problem" (no big deal, really) is that the original text doesn't include any date, so when the event happens early in the game - which it often does (in my Brandenburg game, it triggered in 1420; whether it should be considered to either change the sequence's conditions so it doesn't fire so early or to prevent the Teutons from losing a war to Poland in the first years of almost any game, which is basically the current event condition, is a different - and quite reasonable - question, but nothing to be discussed in the bug thread) - you can't really tell from the description when the cession happened historically, which at least I would consider of interest (in fact, me wondering in what year exactly this happened after reading the event's text is what made me think of changing this in the first place ;) ).
For clarification: the event can fire anytime after 1419 if the Teutons are at war with Poland, any of their core provinces is under enemy control and they don't own more than 7 provinces.
 
I think generally we either include dates (especially if we think the events will fire near their historical dates) or if the event is more general, we don't. I'm not sure it would be a good idea to have generic even text and then a summary of what happened historically (yellow and red highlighted parts respectively).

EVENTHIST209000;The Neumark, originally the part of Brandenburg east of the Oder
river, had been mortgaged to the Teutonic Order by Emperor Sigismund in 1402. Facing
defeat against the superior armies of the King of Poland, it might be desirable to sell
the Neumark back to the Elector of Brandenburg in order to gain some money and his support
instead of just losing it without compensation to the Polish King who is obviously attracted by
the opportunity to restore the Oder river as border with Germany.

Historically, faced with this decision in the desperate financial, political and military situation
caused by the uprising of the Prussian Lizard League and the intervention of Casimir of Poland
in favour of the rebels in 1454, the Order chose the former option. Thus on February
22nd 1454 emissaries of the Order offered the territory to Friedrich II of Brandenburg
for 40000 Gulden. The elector accepted gladly and on April 5th took the oaths of allegiance
from the estates of Neumark in Neu-Landsberg.
;;;;;;;;;;
 
I think generally we either include dates (especially if we think the events will fire near their historical dates) or if the event is more general, we don't. I'm not sure it would be a good idea to have generic even text and then a summary of what happened historically (yellow and red highlighted parts respectively).

EVENTHIST209000;The Neumark, originally the part of Brandenburg east of the Oder
river, had been mortgaged to the Teutonic Order by Emperor Sigismund in 1402. Facing
defeat against the superior armies of the King of Poland, it might be desirable to sell
the Neumark back to the Elector of Brandenburg in order to gain some money and his support
instead of just losing it without compensation to the Polish King who is obviously attracted by
the opportunity to restore the Oder river as border with Germany.

Historically, faced with this decision in the desperate financial, political and military situation
caused by the uprising of the Prussian Lizard League and the intervention of Casimir of Poland
in favour of the rebels in 1454, the Order chose the former option. Thus on February
22nd 1454 emissaries of the Order offered the territory to Friedrich II of Brandenburg
for 40000 Gulden. The elector accepted gladly and on April 5th took the oaths of allegiance
from the estates of Neumark in Neu-Landsberg.
;;;;;;;;;;

Well, now that you mention it, I didn't want to start a discussion on general standards regarding descriptions in the bug thread; for now it certainly would be better for the moment to stick to the current standards, so the yellow text should be just fine.
For what it's worth, however, I'd prefer adding historical information to generic descs - it's always nice to learn (or recall, as for me in this case ;) ).

Btw, thanks for reformatting my horribly unreadable post; it seems I have quite a bit of catching up to do :eek:o