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TheLoneTaco said:
Kinda OT, but something that always bugs me...

people do not get more conservative as they age
It is possible. For instance, Durão Barroso, the current president of the EU commission, and before that the leader of the main centre-right party in Portugal, was a maoist in his youth. :D
 

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(knowing that Gwalcmai only ment this as a joke)
However, when a party is doing things right, people that already are of their ideology shouldn´t convert back to another ideology merely because they are pleased.
 

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Just wish to know if the patch 1.4 would be a major patch or a minor patch? Like, would it change the overall appearance and playablity of the game too much or too little? If Johan could shed some light or anyone of you, I would be thankful as it would relieve me of my anxiety. Thanks
 

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Gwalcmai said:
It is possible. For instance, Durão Barroso, the current president of the EU commission, and before that the leader of the main centre-right party in Portugal, was a maoist in his youth. :D

Ronald Reagan, the Heart and Soul of the Republican Party... was a Democrat for many years.
 

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And Stalin began his political career as a socialist! Case studies, people...group trends say that for every person who goes right to left, another goes left to right.

-Matt
 

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In that case Stalin went form left to further left.


And you can't compare Republicans and Democrats. The cap between them isn't very big. Atleast not IMHO.
 

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Zuckergußgebäck said:
(knowing that Gwalcmai only ment this as a joke)
However, when a party is doing things right, people that already are of their ideology shouldn´t convert back to another ideology merely because they are pleased.

I think you have a very good point here, but this would require a completely different set of pop-ideology preferences for every party in every constitution, which seems a little bit unrealistic.

However, not impossible.

And as for the debate about "conservatives"; the definition of a "conservative" might not be the same as the political ideology conservatism... It has double meanings. I could also be conservative to be against changing of the current system. In that case, there could also exist "conservative socialists" in a proletarian dictatorship...
 

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Raul said:
i am unhappy about that, that 1.4 is coming out.

i hoped a new "from scratch" Vic2 would be released in 2006, now i can expect it around 2010 :(
Paradox generally likes to put some polish on its games before starting anew. You can look forward to HoI 2: Doomsday in April 2006 and another unnamed game in Q4 2006/Q1 2007.
 

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I'm glad Paradox still care about Victoria, it's not as if it was the most best selling game ever :/ I hope VIP 0.5 will come out soon after the 1.4 patch =) I'm glad people spend time making mods for Paradox games =)
 

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Zuckergußgebäck said:
Where did you read this?
If you chart the Paradox developmental cycle since 2003, that is the logical outcome.
 

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Jayavarman said:
Paradox generally likes to put some polish on its games before starting anew. You can look forward to HoI 2: Doomsday in April 2006 and another unnamed game in Q4 2006/Q1 2007.

i dont expect very much from doomsday, cause e.g. the timeframe is like nothing. but its not the right place here.

i wanted a new almost from scratch vic2, b/c its real empirebuilding and diplomacy and MP fitting-game (though i ve never tried EU-MP, but HOI-MP is almost no diplomacy, cause u hvae to fight your war), not the warmonger game like HOI and more economical than EU.

But i think, some basic solutions, like pops cant get improved with a patch. But it depends on, if u like Pops or not, i am one of the "no-pops" opinion. And the diplomacy isnt deep enough for the time of "balance of power", and my experience shows, that paradox never added diplomatic features in patches.
 

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Raul said:
But i think, some basic solutions, like pops cant get improved with a patch. But it depends on, if u like Pops or not, i am one of the "no-pops" opinion. And the diplomacy isnt deep enough for the time of "balance of power", and my experience shows, that paradox never added diplomatic features in patches.

Except that in Crusader Kings they added alliances which were not existing in any form in the release version.
 

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Now I am not saying I am sorry Vickie seems to be getting one heck of a face lift but I think everyone here agrees that a little more info trickling out would greatly help all of us.

Even more of anything more from the changelog or maybe screenshots of the economy of the AI in action :)

This isn't the first time I asked this but I am starting to join the darkside of EU2 to quell my rabid addiction :(

P.S.
As a sidenote, I just reforged the Byzantine Empire to (almost) their historical borders and as Catholics on Normal/Cowardly. :D
 
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Raul said:
i am unhappy about that, that 1.4 is coming out.

i hoped a new "from scratch" Vic2 would be released in 2006, now i can expect it around 2010 :(
I would be very surprised (but pleased) if there's a Vic2 anytime before 2008, if ever. I certainly wouldn't expect it until after an EU3, if they ever do one.

Grosshaus said:
Except that in Crusader Kings they added alliances which were not existing in any form in the release version.
And "Release Puppet" was added to HoI in a patch.