1.4 Delayed to 1st of March

[Zanza]

Meh.

 

[Strategist]

In my opinion the preview information you gave us, is much more important then this little delay. I dont mind delay. Better some more delay then a half patch.

But well the information makes me feel more the waiting is really worth it.

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

Hopefully they´ll fix the bug where pleased socialists in a proletarian dictatorship becomes conservatives...

 

[tyrel68]

Hopefully they´ll fix the bug where pleased socialists in a proletarian dictatorship becomes conservatives...

I did mention this but no assurances...of course

 

[Gwalcmai]

Play your über-Schweiz games now, gentlemen.

That deadline for getting stuff ready for the next VIP just keeps slipping further and further away.

 

[tyrel68]

Play your über-Schweiz games now, gentlemen.

That deadline for getting stuff ready for the next VIP just keeps slipping further and further away.

You better not think of slacking

 

[Aemilius XXIII]

Sure..

like..

- You can no longer convert a pop that is in rebellion.
- Pops that devolve now devolve to pops of same culture.
- Armies are now resized to maximum strength compared to the amount of manpower a nation really has.  (No more -4343 manpower unless a country are truly fucked in the setup.)
-POP files for the 1836 campaign have been completely reorganized and rationalized, with changes in pop size made in select files where new information was available. In particular, Korea population in 1836 reduced to remove 4x overstating, South Asian populations revised upwards, Switzerland population split into Catholic and Protestant and 4x overstating removed.
-POP files have also been balanced in terms of what each nation starts with in terms of factories and military size, so that there is a direct correlation between number of clerk and craftsmen POPs and the number of factories at start, and the number of soldier pops correlates to the size of the starting military OOB. Excess POPs in original pop files have reverted back to farmer/labourer pops.

I hope to see in the new 1.4 patch that the Dutch POP's are also split in Protestants and Catholics too. In the southern Dutch provinces is the large majority of the population Catholic, not Protestant. Also other parts of the Netherlands have important catholic minorities

links, see information from the Catholic "Radboud" University of Nijmegen.
http://www.kdc.kun.nl/geschiedenis/geschiedenis_uk.html
http://www.kdc.kun.nl/geschiedenis/tabel1_uk.html

 

[Grosshaus]

Hopefully they´ll fix the bug where pleased socialists in a proletarian dictatorship becomes conservatives...

Pleased socialists do in reality become conservatives, so why not in the game as well

 

[OHgamer]

I hope to see in the new 1.4 patch that the Dutch POP's are also split in Protestants and Catholics too. In the southern Dutch provinces is the large majority of the population Catholic, not Protestant. Also other parts of the Netherlands have important catholic minorities

links, see information from the Catholic "Radboud" University of Nijmegen.
http://www.kdc.kun.nl/geschiedenis/geschiedenis_uk.html
http://www.kdc.kun.nl/geschiedenis/tabel1_uk.html

If not, then that is something that can easily be modded by players themselves.

 

[unmerged(36774)]

I hope to see in the new 1.4 patch that the Dutch POP's are also split in Protestants and Catholics too. In the southern Dutch provinces is the large majority of the population Catholic, not Protestant. Also other parts of the Netherlands have important catholic minorities

links, see information from the Catholic "Radboud" University of Nijmegen.
http://www.kdc.kun.nl/geschiedenis/geschiedenis_uk.html
http://www.kdc.kun.nl/geschiedenis/tabel1_uk.html

Of course it would be nice, if all religions and nationalities were correct, but this is not so important with Netherlands than Switzerland because of the Sonderbund rebellion event for Switzerland, which increases the militancy of catholic pops. Maybe VIP will or has already fixed that.

 

[Sitenl]

I expect we can change the LR and SR Cultures with a event in 1.4

 

[unmerged(48753)]

I'm not sure I really undestand the manpower one. Does that just mean no more negative manpower?

Nice to see the Korea exploit gone, but the colonial manpower/infinite reinforcement system is all messed up besides that. The only game where my success hasn't depended on getting colonies for manpower was as the USA.

At any rate, I'm just happy it's being looked at. Hopefully they'll find it in their hearts to somehow reduce the ridiculously huge armies the UK always has.

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

I'm not sure I really undestand the manpower one. Does that just mean no more negative manpower?

Nope. It means that there´ll be no negative manpower.

 

[Dagfinn]

Hmm

Pleased socialists do in reality become conservatives, so why not in the game as well

Im both pleased and a socialist, but Im sertainly NOT conservative...

Or did you mean pleased as an socialist

Btw, I definetly have an opinion about the latest delay, but I shall refrain from voicing it here... Oh, I think I just did

 

[unmerged(5361)]

Im both pleased and a socialist, but Im sertainly NOT conservative...

Or did you mean pleased as an socialist

What about all the hippie 68'ers turned blue with advancing age? Traitors to the revolution, one and all!

 

[crash63]

Very very long.

 

[tyrel68]

Very very long.

I hear ya...lets look at the timeline

02-21-2004 -> 1.03 Released
...
8 Months
...
10-03-2004 -> 1.03c Released
...
10 Months
...
08-15-2005 -> Production of 1.04 goes into full swing
...
2 Months
...
11-23-2005 -> First Target for 1.04 set
...
.2 Months
...
11-31-2005 -> Second Target for 1.04 set
...
1 Month
...
01-11-2006 -> Third Target for 1.04 set
...
2 Months
...
03-01-2006 ->Hopefully Last Target for 1.04

So if you add all that up, it's been a whopping 23.2 months since the last full patch

So waiting 2 more months seems like small potatoes after this long

 

[unmerged(48753)]

I think it makes sense for socialists, and others, to turn conservative after a time. People get more conservative as they get older. Not necessarily "yay go imperialist monarchy" conservative, but they just adopt a more moderate philosophy.

 

[noddysseus]

I think it makes sense for socialists, and others, to turn conservative after a time. People get more conservative as they get older. Not necessarily "yay go imperialist monarchy" conservative, but they just adopt a more moderate philosophy.

Ye, but the average age of pops in the game isn't getting older all the time so that argument doesn't make sense. :wacko:

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

I think it makes sense for socialists, and others, to turn conservative after a time. People get more conservative as they get older. Not necessarily "yay go imperialist monarchy" conservative, but they just adopt a more moderate philosophy.

Yes, but that would make them moderate socialists, not conservatives.
Besides, in game, a pop having another ideology than the ruling party gets a militancy rise (or at least misses the decrease). Hence, it wouldn´t make sense to make your people happy as either a liberal or a communist regime (not that people usually get really prosperous under a communist regime, but...)