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After winning its war against the Soviet Union, AI Germany thinks that its a great idea to go closed economy, all adults serve and total mobilization despite having access to most of the Soviet resources and over 7 million manpower in reserve, please fix this...

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Hi, I believe they are still doing all adults serve because they are at war. Bit weird with that much manpower though and we should probably take a look at adding more checks.
But why is it bad that they are running total mobilization while at war? They can afford the manpower hit.
 

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Hi, I believe they are still doing all adults serve because they are at war. Bit weird with that much manpower though and we should probably take a look at adding more checks.
But why is it bad that they are running total mobilization while at war? They can afford the manpower hit.

Why I think its bad that they run total mobilization while at war is because unless you are playing as countries which some manpower bonuses such as the Soviet Union, the bonuses offered from total mobilization compared to war economy isn't as worth it considering the penalty to the manpower pool. Also this is no longer necessary when they are winning the war with the Soviet Union under control having 7 million manpower in excess against the Allies alone so I'd argue that they would be better on extensive conscription with war economy since the penalties to German factories from all adults serve are going to hamper their war production more than the benefits delivered from total mobilization.

Please also look at why AI Germany decides that its an amazing idea to go closed economy after having most of the Soviet resources under their control post peace treaty, and why they continue to garrison troops in former Soviet lands when there is no longer any partisan movements in that area to worry about.
 

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they would be better on extensive conscription
Germany's used manpower (fielded + training + casualties) is 5.9M, i.e. 9% of the population. So Extensive Conscription (65M * 5% = 3.3M) is out of question anyway. Once they went for Service By Requirement (6.5M) and used most of that they should technically have had ~600K left. At this point going for Total Mobilization is actually a very good idea because it doesn't directly drain available manpower; it just reduces the cap on available manpower. But because almost all of it is already in use, the free manpower would likely only change by a few thousand. The real hit to available manpower from TM only comes with the next increase in the conscription law. However the jump in manpower from Service By Requirement to All Adults serve is so big that getting just an additional 7% instead of 10 there is totally fine.
So the AI either considered 600K free manpower as to little (debatable) or they switched to TM much much earlier (bad).
 
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At this point going for Total Mobilization is actually a very good idea because it doesn't directly drain available manpower; it just reduces the cap on available manpower. But because almost all of it is already in use, the free manpower would likely only change by a few thousand. The real hit to available manpower from TM only comes with the next increase in the conscription law. However the jump in manpower from Service By Requirement to All Adults serve is so big that getting just an additional 7% instead of 10 there is totally fine.

The thing is though the AI hardly benefits from neither the extra factories nor the speed to build military factories because at this point in the war they are too busy repairing the endless factories destroyed by partisans due to how poorly the AI handles garrison, therefore TM is quite a useless feature for the AI to choose. You're right about the part that they shouldn't probably be on extensive though since I'm not a math expert. I'd argue that they would be doing fine on Service by Requirement with the Soviet Union already annexed.