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I'd have thought making the game run faster would have been the first priority- then you can see the bugs appear faster :)

there never seems to be any mention about AI in these--and yet it's so important. I tested it last night against Shanxi as japan. Simply atrocious. I cant understand why it wants to go backward all the time - and leaves wide holes in your flanks while it goes backwards and forwards from one province to the next.
Does anyone know if the global weather bug will be tackled ?
Thanks for the update anyway Johan.

It's not weather... You find a possible answer in my AAR, here:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435569

One theatre + 1 war front + 1 defend front = a mess. But I found some tricky ways which can help. :D
 

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It's not weather... You find a possible answer in my AAR, here:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435569

One theatre + 1 war front + 1 defend front = a mess. But I found some tricky ways which can help. :D

Ah yes , the weather comment was a seperate bug... :)
I've read your aar - very good too. However I had no theatre ai on - just army. It was laughable what it did. It simply couldn't even move forwards with overwhealming numbers of units. Instead kept shuffling around backwards and forwards.
I hate the ai in this game.
 

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+1 'nuff said.

If it was enough said then people like you would be at a loss for complaining.

I am currently not playing the game. Because I do not enjoy the fact that there is no longer a blitz feature in the game (due to the way attack delay is currently working.)

Yet you do not see me stalking the forums, whining and the usual trolling do you? No you don't. I try to keep the peace.

Over all, I am very happy with the state of the game, despite the fact that Blitz is no longer in the game.

The main difference between the people that are happy with the game and those who are not is simple. The people who are happy with the game, are not 100% happy with the game, but they look for things that they do enjoy. The people who are not happy with the game look for things to make them even more upset, so that they may have some "reason" to post here and complain. The latter is the only illogical thing on this forum.




nuff said.
 

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I continue to be mystified by the individuals who pay to play a game that works poorly and then cheer when the working verison comes out much later.

Fascinating human behaviour, illogical, but fascinating.

Its obvious that you have never studied marketing or been involved in producing a new product. Potential markets can be split into segments and one of the most important is the group that will pay a premium to have the newest, cutting edge product, whether that be a game, a phone, a computer, an accounting system etc.

This group is prepared to pay extra (to allow the developer to begin to recoup "sunk" costs), will put up with deficiencies (because an untried product will always have them) and will even accept that the product may be a complete dud (because that this is the risk they take).

Reasons why this is so are speculative, with some thinking it is based on a need to always have the best, the desire to be seen by others as a owning a unique product, an urge to be first at everything etc. I have always tended to believed it to be at least partially a search for perfection, but that's me!

Anyway, the point is that it is not illogical or irrational. You just view the world differently than do those people.

To me, to not play a cutting edge game because it has faults, or to not spend a few dollars on a game because it is not up to some hypothetical standard (surely not error-free?), is also irrational. But I am far too polite to say so.

When I buy a new (as in just released) computer game (and I have been buying them for more than 20 years), I know I could be throwing my money away. In many case I have lost my money - I have a periodic clean out of junk games I have loaded, tried a few times and then deleted as crap. But I do this because I know the alternative is to never buy anything until everyone else has bought and played it, and time has allowed all its faults to become apparent. I am not prepared to wait - maybe you should.

Personally, I am having a ball playing HOI3. I am trying things out, learning the depth of the game etc, and anticipating my big "real" game when Patch 1.3 comes out. I have already had my money's worth in terms of hours of enjoyment - probably works out to be about 20c an hour - cheaper than most things. And that's not counting the hours of enjoyment reading cheerful, optimistic, positive posts on this forum. This is not a dud to be thrown out in a few weeks. I can see this game remaining on my hard drive for years.
 

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Its obvious that you have never studied marketing or been involved in producing a new product. Potential markets can be split into segments and one of the most important is the group that will pay a premium to have the newest, cutting edge product, whether that be a game, a phone, a computer, an accounting system etc.

This group is prepared to pay extra (to allow the developer to begin to recoup "sunk" costs), will put up with deficiencies (because an untried product will always have them) and will even accept that the product may be a complete dud (because that this is the risk they take).

Reasons why this is so are speculative, with some thinking it is based on a need to always have the best, the desire to be seen by others as a owning a unique product, an urge to be first at everything etc. I have always tended to believed it to be at least partially a search for perfection, but that's me!

Anyway, the point is that it is not illogical or irrational. You just view the world differently than do those people.

To me, to not play a cutting edge game because it has faults, or to not spend a few dollars on a game because it is not up to some hypothetical standard (surely not error-free?), is also irrational. But I am far too polite to say so.

When I buy a new (as in just released) computer game (and I have been buying them for more than 20 years), I know I could be throwing my money away. In many case I have lost my money - I have a periodic clean out of junk games I have loaded, tried a few times and then deleted as crap. But I do this because I know the alternative is to never buy anything until everyone else has bought and played it, and time has allowed all its faults to become apparent. I am not prepared to wait - maybe you should.

Personally, I am having a ball playing HOI3. I am trying things out, learning the depth of the game etc, and anticipating my big "real" game when Patch 1.3 comes out. I have already had my money's worth in terms of hours of enjoyment - probably works out to be about 20c an hour - cheaper than most things. And that's not counting the hours of enjoyment reading cheerful, optimistic, positive posts on this forum. This is not a dud to be thrown out in a few weeks. I can see this game remaining on my hard drive for years.

+1 nuff said.
 

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Thank you for the update, looking forward to the patch!:rolleyes:
 

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Ah yes , the weather comment was a seperate bug... :)
I've read your aar - very good too. However I had no theatre ai on - just army. It was laughable what it did. It simply couldn't even move forwards with overwhealming numbers of units. Instead kept shuffling around backwards and forwards.
I hate the ai in this game.

Try it again, but, fisrt, detach all Army Groups from Theatre.... Then, you can try at any HQ level. But Army Groups should be detached from Theatre HQ. I'd be very curious if you get better results.... :D

Let me know! :)
 

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Game speed is the No. 1 issue.

I will be looking in on the game again at 1.3. One thing that proved successful at speeding up the game was a mod I tried that severely reduced the complexity of the map textures, conserving RAM. It would be an idea to set up a secondary map texture system that a player could choose as an configuration option, and so reduced RAM usage.

People who wanted the full deal of graphic quality could choose the more complex textures.
 

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Sweet. Thank you for your hard work.
 

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I'll be happy as long as I can load 1.3
All was fine on that score until 1.2 came along...........
 

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I hope you will work on the AI at some point and "teach" it to use encirclements, defense in depth (at least later on in the game) etc.
 

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I'd rather wait until December and have a noticeable speed and performance improvement than a 1.3 with bug fixes, but not speed improvement over 1.2.

I'm worried a lot of the performance issues are graphics related. I loved the simplified map you guys put into 1.2, and I would also love if there were more options to reduce map features (no animation, no textures, etc). I play for strategy, not for sexy graphics. I have porn for the latter.