1.3 Information - 25th September

[Oberst Steiner]

I need patch 1.3 before October 16th

I just hope patch 1.3 is ready by October 16th when my friends and I and going to have great 2 day mega LAN party with 8 players as Germany, Italy, Japan, USA, UK, USSR and Canada. I would hate to have COD 4 & 5 LAN party but I don't think hoi3 is playable with 1.2 (even though it's a great leap forward from 1.1).

 

[Modestus]

Well for me work on the interface and reorganising your units will be great and could something be done about the rotation of counters.

In general make looking directly at the map more intuitive at times its a mess.

 

[unmerged(45464)]

Thank you

 

[kapitan]

thanx for the update and the great work.

but before i (and maybe others) will start a new game that cannot be finished: will the "endlessly-repitative-bitter-peace-bug" that makes the game unplayable with germany be resolved in 1.3?

 

[PreciousTritium]

While it's great that you're fixing HOI3's myriad problems, the fact remains that you knowingly released an unfinished and mostly unplayable game, and it is STILL in this state months after the release. I got burned by giving into the hype and pre-ordering. Needless to say I won't be buying Paradox games anymore until they're heavily discounted.

Are you going to fix the command structure AI? It got worse in 1.2.

I remember buying HOI2 right when it first came out and having a great time with it. I'm still waiting to play my first game of HOI3, and it looks like I won't be able to until over three months after I bought it.

Thanks guys.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

While it's great that you're fixing HOI3's myriad problems, the fact remains that you knowingly released an unfinished and mostly unplayable game, and it is STILL in this state months after the release.
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Months ?

The game was released, early last month in the USA and a couple of weeks later in Europe.

Originally Posted by Susana
The third installment of the popular World War II strategy series, Hearts of Iron 3 is ready to invade North American retail shelves and all major digital download portals on August 7. The game will hit stores in the UK and Scandinavia on August 14 and Germany and France on August 28.

 

[PreciousTritium]

You're right, I should have said a month and a half. HOI3 has only been unplayable and unfinished for a month and half so far, but since the patch isn't coming out until late October/early November, that'll ultimately make it three months. Three months that I have to wait to play the game that I paid full price for.

 

[Rundstedt75]

Further memoryleaks tracked down and removed.

Hope he means the production screen.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

You're right, I should have said a month and a half. HOI3 has only been unplayable and unfinished for a month and half so far, but since the patch isn't coming out until late October/early November, that'll ultimately make it three months. Three months that I have to wait to play the game that I paid full price for.

I've been playing Paradox games since the original EU. That one was released in Europe many months before America because there wasn't a publisher, so I never played anything close to the original release. However, all the rest - EU2, EU3, HOI, HOI2, CK, Vicky, Rome... every time we have folks writing this kind of complaint. Give it a rest... just accept that this is how it's going to be with a Paradox game. Kind of like moving to Miami & complaining it is too hot. It's just the way it is, and if complaining was going to change it then it would already have changed by now.

 

[LordHumongous]

Looking forward to the next much. Thanks for the great support.

 

[PreciousTritium]

I've been playing Paradox games since the original EU. That one was released in Europe many months before America because there wasn't a publisher, so I never played anything close to the original release. However, all the rest - EU2, EU3, HOI, HOI2, CK, Vicky, Rome... every time we have folks writing this kind of complaint. Give it a rest... just accept that this is how it's going to be with a Paradox game. Kind of like moving to Miami & complaining it is too hot. It's just the way it is, and if complaining was going to change it then it would already have changed by now.

Why are we okay with this business model, then? Why do people still pay full price for these games at launch when they know they'll be be broken for months? I bought hoi2 and eu3 at launch and neither was plagued with the catastrophic problems that hoi3 had. I just wish that the fans and paradox themselves would be more honest about their games massive issues.

I just can't support this kind of business model.

 

[nwinther]

Why are we okay with this business model, then? Why do people still pay full price for these games at launch when they know they'll be be broken for months? I bought hoi2 and eu3 at launch and neither was plagued with the catastrophic problems that hoi3 had. I just wish that the fans and paradox themselves would be more honest about their games massive issues.

I just can't support this kind of business model.

While I tend to agree with you, I'm not sure that you are 100% right about HOI2. I myself was a beta on the game, and seem to remember some problems with the game upon release (though not on this scale). Of course this only serves to emphazies your complaint that paradox-games are prone to "malfunction" upon release. My advise to you is to "live with it". I doubt it'll be much different in games to come. My personal response is "wait and buy at patch 1.2 or later". I plan on getting VIC2 (didn't like VIC1 but liked the period - so I'll probably get that one too) - but not upon release. Perhaps I'll wait until it's on sale - as I did with EU3. Not sure Paradox can make a living selling games on sale months after release. But I guess that's capitalism for you.

 

[unmerged(114957)]

So, a game that was released in Aug can't be played until late October?
This game has a lot of potential; I do want to be able to enjoy a game without constant CTD's, event bugs sooner...

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

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[ETF]

We've now had 3 weeks of full development on the 1.3 patch, and it is going forward. Some of the highlights of this last week includes.

- Reworked some of the rules for reorganisation of units to make it less of a hassle for the player.


THANK you SIR! :wacko:

 

[unmerged(139259)]

Memory leaks usually make the saves bigger and bigger leading to slower games.

Many thanks for the answer.

 

[mikey1871]

the regular updates from u and the PI team are greatly appreciated Johan.. thanks ")

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

the regular updates from u and the PI team are greatly appreciated Johan.. thanks ")

I just posted a warning that insulting people isn't allowed. I have deleted your post. 'Defending' Paradox by insulting their customers isn't a good idea.

 

[unmerged(113603)]

[...]If nothing major goes wrong, we're still on track to have a 1.3 out before november.

That sounds great. Patch 1.2 really speeds up the game, and I hope 1.3 will increase the speed even more. . On the other hand, improving the A.I. is also a priority, thank you for taking the time to improve HoI3.

 

[AJL]

I've been playing Paradox games since the original EU. That one was released in Europe many months before America because there wasn't a publisher, so I never played anything close to the original release. However, all the rest - EU2, EU3, HOI, HOI2, CK, Vicky, Rome... every time we have folks writing this kind of complaint. Give it a rest... just accept that this is how it's going to be with a Paradox game. Kind of like moving to Miami & complaining it is too hot. It's just the way it is, and if complaining was going to change it then it would already have changed by now.

The only PI products i've ever really gotten into are the HoI series so those are the only PI products I feel qualified to comment on. I bought HoI 1 the time that it came out and it worked relatively well although it obviously needed a lot more work it had basic functionality. I bought with a pre-order and it had basic functionality right out of the box. In both cases they improved with time but right from the start the core features worked basically the way they should have and CTDs, corrupted save games, memory and snail like speed were never an issue for me or any of the HoI fans I knew at the time.

Since HoI 3 was released upon the public in a pre-beta condition there is no way to look at it other then case of PI having no QA to speak of. Personally I don't like being told to "give it a rest" when I have legitimate complaints about something that I bought with my hard earned money. In the future I will not PI release until the major functionality issues have been resolved. PI will likely not change the way they do business but I won't pay full price for pre-beta software again and i'd also say such business practices will hurt PI overall.

So, a game that was released in Aug can't be played until late October?
This game has a lot of potential; I do want to be able to enjoy a game without constant CTD's, event bugs sooner...

Quite true! However, I am willing to give PI the benefit of the doubt and i'll presume that when 1.3 is released all the major problems will be resolved and we'll have a product with a high degree of functionality. I do not think that we should expect a highly polished game with just a handful of optimization/balance type issues as that is far to much to be done quickly.

I do think that PI has really hurt themselves by releasing HoI 3 in the state they did and I hope that they don't make such a drastic mistake in the future.