1.24.1 Sikh able to convert to Sunni, Shia & Hindu

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So Hindu->Sikh->Sunni/Shia is a new strategy as an alternative to converting by rebels.
 

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Even in earlier versions while playing a sultanate I would instantly convert to Hindu use Shiva & Shakti and try to then convert to Sikh or remain Hindu.

Why to settle for 5% Shia Morale when you can get 10% Sikh Morale and if your plans are big then administrative + humanism/religious (sometimes both) are unavoidable which more than compensates for the loss of tolerance tradition sultanates have.
 
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Why would you pick Islam over Hindu in 1.24?
15% Morale and +/-10 % Shock Damage dealt/received?
and to form Hindustan ofc, not Bharat :)
 
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15% morale if you have 10-20 same faith OPMs ready to DOW for max mysticism lol

Honestly Hanbali is pretty good. I wouldn't go seriously out of my way to flip to Hindu, that said Hindu still the king.
 

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15% morale is pretend land the last 2 patches. It's not going to happen from Sunni/Shia/Ibadi.
Hm. I guess I did not understand you. Shia gives +5% morale, and +10% morale in full mysticism. If you take a school, you get 10% shock damage, if you invite another school, you get -10% shock received. It is going to happen with Shia....
 

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Why would you pick Islam over Hindu in 1.24? You want to go Sunni --> Sikh --> Hindu and take the -core cost deity with enough heathen tolerance to be set.
Can the Muslims convert to Sikth, though (can't check atm)? If not, then no new strategies have been added to make that route possible and it's easier to go directly Sunni->Hindu.
 

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Hm. I guess I did not understand you. Shia gives +5% morale, and +10% morale in full mysticism. If you take a school, you get 10% shock damage, if you invite another school, you get -10% shock received. It is going to happen with Shia....

Full Mysticism is highly unlikely because every war declaration and conversion is going to move you towards Legalism
 

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Hm. I guess I did not understand you. Shia gives +5% morale, and +10% morale in full mysticism. If you take a school, you get 10% shock damage, if you invite another school, you get -10% shock received. It is going to happen with Shia....

Full Mysticism is highly unlikely because every war declaration and conversion is going to move you towards Legalism

This, although I'm not convinced the conversions changing piety is actually working. But if you want to outweigh war decs via events, you get to declare war on a non-same religion target roughly once every 15 years, and even then you'll only move slowly towards Mysticism, resetting, of course, on ruler death. On the other hand, you can hit 100% Legalism in just 4 war decs, which if you're blobbing hard, is maybe a few years, maybe a few months.

So realistically Shia is 5% morale, shock damage, and legalism bonuses - which aren't bad. But there's no way you're going to max mysticism bonuses unless you're almost completely pacifist.

I wouldn't necessarily swap to Sikh from Shia - I can't remember the Guru bonuses and how they stack up vs. Legalism, but there's no particular reason to go away from Hindu, which gives you RCC/-AE right there (or disc if you need it), plus tolerance of true faith and heathens.