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Though I certainly welcome a 1938 scenario, I think it would have been better if they spent that time on other stuff instead, such as actually making the GC and 39 campaigns more balanced. It's better to have 2 working campaigns instead of 3 semi-working ones. I guess we will see when the patch comes out.....
 

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Man, I just got the game, and now I read about an upcoming patch. This of course raises the question - should I just wait until the patch comes out to play it, or play it now? Is the damn thing really supposed to be out on the 18th, or is that just a wild-assed guess?
 

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Yes off course, I signed, but have to give my private email adress.......so can't check at work :wacko:
Can't you check that one online?:confused: I can, through my ISP's home page.:)
 

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MadViking said:
Though I certainly welcome a 1938 scenario, I think it would have been better if they spent that time on other stuff instead, such as actually making the GC and 39 campaigns more balanced. It's better to have 2 working campaigns instead of 3 semi-working ones. I guess we will see when the patch comes out.....

Well the 39 game is quite fun IMHO. The issues revolve mainly around good players "stretching" the limits of the game model (and some annoying bugs most of which will be squashed hopefully in 1.2). 1936 is a problem since the players have alot of time to deviate from history.

The problem with this is that people will claim this is unbalanced when what they are doing is rewriting history in a historical simulation. If USA goes interventionist or USSR does not stick to outmoded equipment and dubious doctrines then Germany will never win. But if you straightjacket the countries into following the historical path then you lose alot from the Paradox style of games (as opposed to say World at War where the politics is preprogrammed and the research is strongly "guided").

Hopefully 1938 will offer a much more interesting MP experience - a little bit o preparation but not enough to deviate too much from "reality".
 

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SlyFrog said:
Man, I just got the game, and now I read about an upcoming patch. This of course raises the question - should I just wait until the patch comes out to play it, or play it now? Is the damn thing really supposed to be out on the 18th, or is that just a wild-assed guess?
I am in your position, and I am waiting. Instead, I am slogging through the whole manual first. Do whatever suits your time, of which I lack.
 

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deathsai said:
So then what's your suggestion on making the AI less than retarded?

1) Rework grouping priorities to include proper ratios of screening ships in naval combat.

2) Rework grouping priorities to properly escort aircraft.

3) Rework beach garrisoning priorities to create proper beach defense

4) Rework AI brigading to intelligently group brigades within a corps for maximum effectiveness.

5) Change the front AI from needing assinine numbers of units on the front so that it's not a "get through 1 line" sort of thing.

6) Change AI odds on attacking. Make them attack with near even odds and prioritize vulnerable attacking units for counterattack.

The AI just needs to use it's units better, not build more.
 

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Derek Pullem said:
The problem with this is that people will claim this is unbalanced when what they are doing is rewriting history in a historical simulation. If USA goes interventionist or USSR does not stick to outmoded equipment and dubious doctrines then Germany will never win. But if you straightjacket the countries into following the historical path then you lose alot from the Paradox style of games (as opposed to say World at War where the politics is preprogrammed and the research is strongly "guided").

Excellent point, as always. WWII could have been over quickly if this this and this had happened. Just like you can maybe imagine the Axis winning WWII if this that and that happened. So people play the 1936 scenario, and this this and this happens and Germany is crushed. Well, I mean, if the US had known there was a world war coming in 1939 (like the player does) and had entered as soon as was possible and been belligerent as hell, yeah, WWII might have been a quick affair--just like it can be in this game. And it's broken when that happens...?
 

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Spocky said:
Its nice to see that mld0806 is following his personal vendetta topic for topic against the DAIM mod again without showing alternatives. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Nobody forces him to play DAIM

But I'm anxious to see the 1.2 enhancement, too.

Spocky

I'll denounce any mod that in it's introductive thread says it borders on gamey. If people like it, fine. But don't tout it as an AI improvement. Tout it as something to make the game harder.
 

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So, is that a no on the 1.2 this week???

Ah well.....

I bet it comes out next week when Im really busy!!! Grrrrr...
 

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1.2 will not be out this week. It is still in testing to make sure everything is working as intended. Current goal is to have it out sometime next week.
 

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Too bad. Oh well. A new CK beta patch has been released today!