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That's how national debt works... As long as you can make the interest payments, it's okay.

But the interest rate is negligible. It was much higher in Vicky1 and that always caused me to think twice about going into debt. Plus didn't it cause rich POPs to withdraw money from government bonds?
 

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ugh, give us beta like you do for the other games.

Just zip all the files and let us copy/paste it, we do not need an installer for a beta. IDK why its not done for this, i'm sure there is a reason as you always give us betas for the other games, but if its possible I am annoyed.

I dont care about buggy/crashy/shitty it is, I wont complain because I test betas for other games all the time and it doesn't bother me.

+1. Just give us what you have. It worked well for Eu3.
 

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But the interest rate is negligible. It was much higher in Vicky1 and that always caused me to think twice about going into debt. Plus didn't it cause rich POPs to withdraw money from government bonds?

I agree. In Victoria 1, I was dead scared to go too deep into debt. I would work pretty hard to keep my debt at reasonable levels so that interest payments didn't shatter my economy. I don't even have to give depth 2 second of thought in Vic 2. Sometimes, I'll forget to update my budget after a DoW, not notice the red, and then when the war is over, I'll be like 250K in debt with no consequences. I'll just take out another 250K or so, let my economy balance for a bit, then repay it all back. I sorta liked that fear of bankruptcy that came with high interest rates.

Enjoy.
 

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So much hate in this thread, i find it really annoying,
its not hard to wait another week if the end result is a better Game.

Get some patience and be glad you get patches after all,
other companies dont even patch the worst faults in their products.

And jet here is Paradox, who gives you even UPDATES, allmost any other day,
on how its progressing and still you have nothing else to do than to complain.

Some of you dont deserve to play paradox games at all.
 

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So much hate in this thread, i find it really annoying, [...] Some of you dont deserve to play paradox games at all.

Lol. :D Looks like you too need to chill. ;)

I'm kinda impatient, I really want to start a new game but the patch keeps getting delayed. I'm itching to play, and the fact the latest reason for delay is MP which I couldn't care less about doesn't help any. I really hope 1.2 will be worth the wait and really solve V2s problems. :)
 

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So much hate in this thread, i find it really annoying,
its not hard to wait another week if the end result is a better Game.

Get some patience and be glad you get patches after all,
other companies dont even patch the worst faults in their products.

And jet here is Paradox, who gives you even UPDATES, allmost any other day,
on how its progressing and still you have nothing else to do than to complain.

Some of you dont deserve to play paradox games at all.

Nice poetry over there! :)
 

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So much hate in this thread, i find it really annoying,
its not hard to wait another week if the end result is a better Game.

Get some patience and be glad you get patches after all,
other companies dont even patch the worst faults in their products.

And jet here is Paradox, who gives you even UPDATES, allmost any other day,
on how its progressing and still you have nothing else to do than to complain.

Some of you dont deserve to play paradox games at all.

This is just the sort of fan boy crap that hurts Paradox in the long run. It shows profound disrespect to gamers who have supported Paradox products and simply want to play the game.

I can only assume that this poster is a troll who gets his jollies by hurting not only Paradox by creating the image that their loyal consumers are the enemy; but, a real desire to see Paradox fail.

In the current economy, any business which fails to demonstrate a respect for their consumers is certain to fail.

So, stop the trolling and stick to the gaming.
 

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@sogard:
Seems like you feel spoken to, i disagree on so many levels with you that a further response dosent make any sense.
If you insult my person or opinion further i will report you.
 

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So much hate in this thread, i find it really annoying,
its not hard to wait another week if the end result is a better Game.

Get some patience and be glad you get patches after all,
other companies dont even patch the worst faults in their products.

And jet here is Paradox, who gives you even UPDATES, allmost any other day,
on how its progressing and still you have nothing else to do than to complain.

Some of you dont deserve to play paradox games at all.
they released a broken game and decided on long term solutions rather than hotfixes, of course people are mad.

I just wish we could get a beta, they always did that BEFORE. Why is it different now? That is why people are annoyed.

If you want to eat a shit sandwich of buggy gameplay for a couple of months thats your choice. I personally feel that I didn't get what I paid for. We dont deserve to play their games? WE ARE THE CUSTOMERS! With HOI3 and this I do not feel at all that I got what I paid for.

HOI3 was horrible game. I regret buying that. With this game its ridiculously buggy but unlike EU3 where we had beta patches where the community could test the issues they are going all closed like those "other game companies" you mention. We have every right to be mad about this.

EU3 at release was less buggy and handled a LOT better than these two recent games in terms of patches and community involvement in them.
 

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[sarcastic]Note to Paradox, next time don't release a broken game when you have unlimited time to develop it and which can be fixed later - it seems like we would prefer to not have a game at all...[/sarcastic]

Am I the only one who actually enjoyed Victoria 2 for 80% of the time, so its not perfect towards the end but its not like its completely unplayable and calling it broken is an outright overreaction...

Sigh...
 
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Seems like you feel spoken to, i disagree on so many levels with you that a further response dosent make any sense.
If you insult my person or opinion further i will report you.

Wow! You really think that you can insult other loyal Paradox customers (myself included); but, then insist you are immune from any response?

If you are going to make an inflammatory post, like you did, you had better expect some return fire.

I have been a loyal Pardox gamer for almost 10 years. I have purchased lots of Paradox products. I have recommended the games to many of my gamer friends. I still tell my friends that VICKY 2 is going to be a gem.

What I do find offensive, is your effort to stir up trouble by ridiculing other gamers who have legitimate concerns, and trying to drive them away from Paradox games.

This mindset is very dangerous for Paradox.

I believe that Paradox is working to fix the current issues with VICTORIA 2. I can not wait to play the game with the coming patch.

I wish Paradox well and much success.

You need to grow up and respect other gamers and their concerns. If you do, you will be doing Paradox a favor and hopefully, help the hobby we love, historical gaming, to grow, prosper and thrive.

Very disappointed with your response and your absurd threat. I have NOT insulted you. Your own words have done the damage.

Rather, it is the pot calling the kettle black.
 

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they released a broken game and decided on long term solutions rather than hotfixes, of course people are mad.

I just wish we could get a beta, they always did that BEFORE. Why is it different now? That is why people are annoyed.

If you want to eat a shit sandwich of buggy gameplay for a couple of months thats your choice. I personally feel that I didn't get what I paid for. We dont deserve to play their games? WE ARE THE CUSTOMERS! With HOI3 and this I do not feel at all that I got what I paid for.

HOI3 was horrible game. I regret buying that. With this game its ridiculously buggy but unlike EU3 where we had beta patches where the community could test the issues they are going all closed like those "other game companies" you mention. We have every right to be mad about this.

EU3 at release was less buggy and handled a LOT better than these two recent games in terms of patches and community involvement in them.

You're complaining that they're patching the game. Think about it for a minute.
 

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Sorry Veldmaarschalk, I didnt wanted to stir up any trouble.
I just stated my opinion without directing it at anyone in particular.

I will keep my opinion for myself in the future, so i wont be called a troll
after all these years here and buying and playing every Paradox game that there is.
 

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[sarcastic]Note to Paradox, next time don't release a broken game when you have unlimited time to develop it and which can be fixed later - it seems like we would prefer to not have a game at all...[/sarcastic]

Am I the only one who actually enjoyed Victoria 2 for 80% of the time, so its not perfect towards the end but its not like its completely unplayable and calling it broken is an outright overreaction...

Sigh...

So true. I've played a good 40 hours and enjoyed the game a great deal. I will say that this is a good kind of thread to come to if you want to know who needs ignoring.
 

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So true. I've played a good 40 hours and enjoyed the game a great deal. I will say that this is a good kind of thread to come to if you want to know who needs ignoring.

I think this game has effectively devoured the last 2-3 weeks of my life. It's that addicting. Now, I'm not directing this at anyone in particular, so don't take it as so: but I've never seen any other company do almost daily updates for a patch. This in itself to me shows open honesty about the progress they are making. If my worker tells me his report will be done by monday and on monday he doesn't have it, I should be mad. If he tells me it should be done on monday, but on friday, he says that half of it got deleted because of a system error, then getting mad is not the solution.

But for anyone out there considering the game, & reading this thread, in my own personal opinion, it is well worth the money to buy it. Even in v1.1, and even more with knowledge of the incoming v1.2. So if you are debating buying it, my opinion is that you should. Don't be afraid. Take the leap; It might be the best $40 you have spent.

@Alexspeed: That is an insane list of icons under your name. I didn't know Paradox had that many games. I was still debating whether I wanted to go back and buy the entire HOI series & the entire EU series, but apparently there's a whole lot more I need to consider. Now if only I had some time from Vic 2...
 

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@Alexspeed: That is an insane list of icons under your name. I didn't know Paradox had that many games. I was still debating whether I wanted to go back and buy the entire HOI series & the entire EU series, but apparently there's a whole lot more I need to consider. Now if only I had some time from Vic 2...

Not all of these Icons are Paradox made games, but just those you can register in this Forum,
some of them are just published by paradox.
And some of the older games dont have icons at all.

I also agree with the rest of your posting. :)
 
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