1.11 beta8 Swiss testgame

[Pioniere]

Started up 1.11 beta9 via the steam version as a handsoffgame with swizerland.

I can see that the intention would be to help the axis like having Hungary to always be given the whole of slovakia. I think that would be way to ahistroical when you choose to play on historical outcomes. This should not happen unless you don’t have historical outcomes on.

I can live with some cheating even if I don’t recommend it to much like Hungary,Romania and Bulgria joins before the invaions of Poland.

Finland should not join the Axis before early 41 and defenlty not during the early 1940.
Why is Denmark agein joining the allies dunring the invasions of Poland I wonder.
I never saw this one historical settings before. Its not because of the belligerent forces of the Axis? Or the mix of sliders. I do seem to recal that there was something like axis navel units near the danish water this could happened. But I have now seen it in my 3. testing game.

 

[Pioniere]

I do dislike that it has become norm that the Netherlands joins the allies like this. We should consider some nutral nation to be isolted that others.
The Beneluxs should try to stay out of this aslong as the can. I know from the darkest hour that if the axis dow one of those 3 in a few days the 2 others joins the allies as well.

Intresting that Japan choose to liberate this nation so early in 1940. Maybe it could have waited a few years when Japan started to get in a stalemate with China.

That Italy joins the Axis somewhat beofre germany gets Paris might not be so bad. This could divert some allied troops. In this game Italy manged to take Alexandria, but got pushed back to Lybia.

The axis went to war ageisnt ussr in august 1941 and entred Moscow in late september now that was fast, but USSR was taken out of Europe by november. Can it has something to do with full IC takeover?

Japan manged to land in Australia and by the late 1940s in its thired attempt it annexed the country.
Germany could only take and hold nothern Ireland as normal.

 

[Pang Bingxun]

Why is Denmark agein joining the allies dunring the invasions of Poland I wonder.
I never saw this one historical settings before. Its not because of the belligerent forces of the Axis? Or the mix of sliders. I do seem to recal that there was something like axis navel units near the danish water this could happened. But I have now seen it in my 3. testing game.

Denmark joins the allies because germany declares war on it because the UK has units in the baltic sea.

Intresting that Japan choose to liberate this nation so early in 1940. Maybe it could have waited a few years when Japan started to get in a stalemate with China.

Well, it did effectively wait till a stalemate occured.

 

[Pioniere]

Well, it did effectively wait till a stalemate occured.

Im in favor of having this option for Japan, but this time u87 didn’t help Japan so much. In 2 to 3 years later U87 was almost pushed out and moved its capital to Taiwan they had only one useles provnice one the mainland. If it wasn’t for that Japan joined the axis germany would not have invaded china via Mongolia. U87 got Mongolia from Germany.
We need more testing with this I think. I have seen Japan do much better in older versions of 1.11 where they had no u87 at all. Might be better for Japan to wait unitl mid 41 to have this event where Japan and china got digged even more in(defences).

Pang do you have and suggestions for paternal leaders that u87 can have for HOS & HOG?

 

[Pioniere]

Here I joined the Axis with a paternal Swizerland and I DOW Sikiang,Tibet and Saudia Arabia.

A bit stange that we got:
61;Foreign Minister;Konstantin von Neurath;39;PA;Great Compromiser;High;Neurath_Konstantin_von_ger;x

and 3;Foreign Minister;Konstantin von Neurath;36;FA;Great Compromiser;High;Neurath_Konstantin_von_ger;x
Hmm I see there are other doubles to with FA and PA maybe usefull if hitler gets killed.

Pang you could expreiment more with minister post as the war progress. I assume you do focus on what is best for the current nation.

Germany Foreign Ministers

For Germany it could be Alfred Rosenberg afther bitter peace. And Goebbels from 43/44 if germany loses Russia and France.
Germany could change its Foreign Minister in 39 to Ribbentrop.
Siegfried Kasche maybe past 1946 a-historical.

 

[Pioniere]

Intresting that USA builds nuclear bombs agein. Maybe Germany could do that in 1950s?

 

[Pang Bingxun]

Im in favor of having this option for Japan, but this time u87 didn’t help Japan so much. In 2 to 3 years later U87 was almost pushed out and moved its capital to Taiwan they had only one useles provnice one the mainland. If it wasn’t for that Japan joined the axis germany would not have invaded china via Mongolia. U87 got Mongolia from Germany.
We need more testing with this I think. I have seen Japan do much better in older versions of 1.11 where they had no u87 at all. Might be better for Japan to wait unitl mid 41 to have this event where Japan and china got digged even more in(defences).

The event does not depend on japan being AI. It depend on china having lost lots of territory. This is the ideal time to liberate U87 compared to waiting. Because this is also when the balance will shift in favour of CHI. By not waiting china gets less time to rebuild its military while U87 gets more to to build up its military. The thing about liberating U87 is that AI japan reduces its deployment of troops at that front by about 50%.

 

[Pioniere]

The event does not depend on japan being AI. It depend on china having lost lots of territory. This is the ideal time to liberate U87 compared to waiting. Because this is also when the balance will shift in favour of CHI. By not waiting china gets less time to rebuild its military while U87 gets more to to build up its military. The thing about liberating U87 is that AI japan reduces its deployment of troops at that front by about 50%.

Have you seen Japan win over china via this event before as in testing?
I think the event might be somewhat aimed at the AI because its 100% for accepting it just my idea. A human player can liberate it as long the player has taken sufficient amount of provinces from china. It is realistic that u87 starts with 15% dissidents, but maybe u87 should get some dissidents if japan-player liberates this nation without the event. As long u87 starts as a puppet under Japan and is at war with chi it has 5 to 10 dissidents.

I recall that there where a provinces in china that was supposed to give Japan manpower bonus or was I mistaken?

Did you make an event for u87 that gives it fromer ROC tech teams when ROC is annexed?

 

[Pang Bingxun]

Have you seen Japan win over china via this event before as in testing?

No.

I recall that there where a provinces in china that was supposed to give Japan manpower bonus or was I mistaken?

There is some offmap manpower for AI only. AI Japan can win a war of attrition against china. With U87 this changes in structure, but not in substance. CHI usually has about 0.28 daily gain of manpewer, U87 has 1.62.

 

[Commander666]

Intresting that USA builds nuclear bombs agein. Maybe Germany could do that in 1950s?

Great action!

 

[Mr_B0narpte]

Playing as Germany I see some nice improvements to the AI. Great to see France & Poland with fully upgraded armies by Danzig. Would be even better to see them having larger armies by that time though. It makes historical sense (maybe....) to delay militarisation to peak in 1941 for Germany, USSR & UK but for France & Poland it should be earlier, especially if Germany is a human player. All I needed was 15 ARM-3 w/SP-ART40 & Germany's starting army to annex Poland, Denmark, defeat Belgium & trigger Vichy by Oct 19 1939 - and I wasn't even playing very efficiently. I also had 6 paratroopers & Hungary's army but they weren't crucial to the success.

Also it's cool seeing Hungary AI building ARM-2 w/H-ARM. Does it always do that, or just with a human Germany player?

 

[Pang Bingxun]

Always.

 

[Mr_B0narpte]

Always.

That's good. Although I do fear for the Allies. They need to make noticeable improvements in their military by August 1939, as happened IRL. From just a gameplay perspective, it's far too easy for a human Axis player. The UK & France AIs build just 32 divisions between 1936 & 1939. This picture shows a great China AI production-wise, but not sure for the rest of the world (I am playing Germany).

World Military on 30 Aug 1939
https://imgur.com/SgbW0KZ

World Military on 1 Jan 1936
https://imgur.com/a/Tqwkchb