1.10 - are there any undocumented changes or unexpected side effects?

[sylivin]

Unintended side effects?
Let's see, playing as Poland / Commonwealth in an Ironman game in the year 1662 I had: The Empire disbanded, because all european nations now have the government form: "nogovernment"
All of my damn vassals are now magically independent (and no, none of them are even close to me in size as I clock in at over a hundred provinces). Thanks for that, Paradox.
Everyone that's Western now has a tech level of 0 to my 21 (which everyone else was at).
Most European nations now have the religion: "noreligion"

Actually pretty much the entire save is destroyed. Great. Another ruined Ironman game.

 

[IG11]

Unintended side effects?
Let's see, playing as Poland / Commonwealth in an Ironman game in the year 1662 I had: The Empire disbanded, because all european nations now have the government form: "nogovernment"
All of my damn vassals are now magically independent (and no, none of them are even close to me in size as I clock in at over a hundred provinces). Thanks for that, Paradox.
Everyone that's Western now has a tech level of 0 to my 21 (which everyone else was at).
Most European nations now have the religion: "noreligion"

Actually pretty much the entire save is destroyed. Great. Another ruined Ironman game.

Paradox has actually been pretty clear that playing old ironman saves in 1.10 will break them. I can't really blame them for this one.

 

[ChildeR]

Paradox has actually been pretty clear that playing old ironman saves in 1.10 will break them. I can't really blame them for this one.

And beyond that they've always said that there are no guarantees old saves will work, even when they think they will.

 

[Autoclave]

Saw this coming a week ago lol. Sounds like if the Emperor isn't uber strong by then, he better not enact that reform.

Yeah, revoke the privillegia is no longer an auto-win lol

 

[sylivin]

Ah, lovely. I guess this is what I get for allowing Steam to autopatch a Paradox game. Well, I am already over halfway through a game trying to get Poland's achievements. Since it is still ironman I suppose it might still award achievements, even if I have to conquer most of Austria to stop the Ottomans from sweeping in and taking all the zero tech Europeans.

 

[Tales N-E]

Diplomatic relationship penalty no longer applies? Currently annexing my second vassal as France and there's no penalty.

 

[magitsu]

Ugh, AI Castille was already in the starting HYW on French side when England called my Portugal into it.
This is bad.

 

[Junuxx]

Another fun side effect of the new vassal system is Revoking Privilegia immediately spikes all vassal liberty desire to 100% due to "All Vassal's relative power to liege"

As well as nailing the "I'm not forming the HRE 'cause I don't like the colour" issue. But hey, who didn't want mass armies of vassals running around doing all the work for you? Paradox apparently (I like this change).

Sorry but no. Trap options that behave in an inane fashion aren't defensible. We're not playing I wanna be the guy, we're playing a strategy title. Those nations all just agreed on that, at a non-zero player expense to set it up. As much as I despise the HRE in general, solving it this way...well I'll stop there.

If the HRE members would hate to be your vassals that much, they shouldn't vote yes to the reform. Right?

 

[Krajzen]

I have something new, found in defines


Previously primitive nations would get just hopeless 1 ducat from gold mines, now it is 4

Also, what the hell is this:

"If no neighbour of this tech group, cost is increased by this amount: +20%"

 

[ProcopiousJones]

Apparently if you enable any mod, Random New World gets disabled.

 

[Sirveri]

When playing as a custom Mayan nation (but otherwise proper tech group and culture and bordering existing Mayans), enacting a religious reform will pop out several nations, this is WAD, however I suspect that they're not suppossed to pop out UPCA as a Western Nation, complete with level 4 mil tech when all their neighbors are level 1-2.

 

[DownTheDrain]

Also, what the hell is this:

"If no neighbour of this tech group, cost is increased by this amount: +20%"

Just found that in the defines.lua as well.
My best guess is it mostly applies for custom nations, you know, being the only western nation with a capital in North America in 1444 and such.

 

[moyang]

When playing as a custom Mayan nation (but otherwise proper tech group and culture and bordering existing Mayans), enacting a religious reform will pop out several nations, this is WAD, however I suspect that they're not suppossed to pop out UPCA as a Western Nation, complete with level 4 mil tech when all their neighbors are level 1-2.

That's... revolutionary.

 

[Incompetent]

That's a hilarious bug. Are we going to see Revolutionary UPCA take over Central America before the Iberians arrive?

 

[Sirveri]

That's a hilarious bug. Are we going to see Revolutionary UPCA take over Central America before the Iberians arrive?

I am seriously tempted to release and play as them, however then I'd lose my custom idea set.

 

[Squirrelloid]

I am seriously tempted to release and play as them, however then I'd lose my custom idea set.

Can you westernize off them?

 

[oberstbrooksy]

Can't explore the seas

wtf

 

[Karnak]

When sending light ships to protect trade the tooltip no longer tells you whether you gain profit or loss of money. Wtf?! :/

That thing was buggy as hell, it was always very wrong on some nodes. And slightly wrong on all other nodes.

I guess they took the easy way out and removed the broken information provided instead of fixing the calculation.

+1

 

[Karnak]

As Denmark, I can't diplo-integrate Sweden or Norway even if I have over 190 relations. This is because they have higher base tax than mine. The only option is to diplo-annex Holstein first and then start integrating PU partners. Was this always the case?

Back in the day there was a limit on province count. It was a feature from day one but was taken down recently i guess. I'm glad it swapped to base tax.

 

[WillydaWiller]

Not sure if its WAD but having a conquistador exploring inside inca, start a war somewhere else, colonist goes exile, really annoying when you have to run back across a whole continent just to explore again