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Olaus Petrus said:
Why didn't you expect that to be fixed. [...]Follwed by a long explanation why it is a disturbing bug[...]

I didn't expected to see it fixed, since I didn't expect to see new fixes in 1.09 at all, but only a gathering of the previous beta patches.

As you said,

Johan, du är bäst.
 

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Yes, you're the best Johan! After so many years still supporting this wonderfull game....congratulations for your work.
 

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Captain Frakas said:
should also be restaured for all vassals (to human player and to AI), and not only vassals to human players...

If I correctly remember this was like that in one beta patch but there was the huge problem that this lead to very many stuck wars. If there would be added an "automatic peace after 10 years with no battles and sieges" rule it perhaps would be ok. Though this is not "fair" for AI overlords it betters the game play: I don't want to see Byzantine Empire still alive in 1819 after 400 years of war with Tuscany and Duchy of Athens once again.
 

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Ambassador said:
So, hopefully, one day left until the release of 1.09. :)

Sadly, I've seen Vicky 1.04 has been delayed 'til mid-January, so does it have any influence on EU2 1.09 ? Will the 1.09 patch be delayed until after Vicky 1.04 is released, or not ?

I hope hope that EU3 come out soon
 

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nelsonlee said:
I hope hope that EU3 come out soon
Don't we all? ;)
But it's not likely for a couple of years.
 

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I've just stumbled on something that I didn't like about this patch at all. 2 new features: vassals never accepting peace if their overlord still at war, and alliance leader always being the leader, produce a combination when you can NEVER get any peace deal with the vassal as long as they are allied.
 

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Sekenr said:
I've just stumbled on something that I didn't like about this patch at all. 2 new features: vassals never accepting peace if their overlord still at war, and alliance leader always being the leader, produce a combination when you can NEVER get any peace deal with the vassal as long as they are allied.
Good. Now my minions will no longer stab me in the back. :)
 

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Sekenr said:
I've just stumbled on something that I didn't like about this patch at all. 2 new features: vassals never accepting peace if their overlord still at war, and alliance leader always being the leader, produce a combination when you can NEVER get any peace deal with the vassal as long as they are allied.

Sure you can - just make a separate peace with the alliance leader first, right?

-Mark
 

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Sekenr said:
I've just stumbled on something that I didn't like about this patch at all. 2 new features: vassals never accepting peace if their overlord still at war, and alliance leader always being the leader, produce a combination when you can NEVER get any peace deal with the vassal as long as they are allied.

The only time would see this as a problem is if the vassal is a one prover and it won't let you annex (haven't played a 1.09 game yet...)

Personally, I like it. My vassals are always retarded and do something stupid if they're given too much freedom. Now, hopefully, they continue fighting instead of accepting some silly peace proposal. There have been a number of times where I very much would have liked to have got a particular province for my vassal, but they crapped out after taking the province (mostly through my help right up untill the very end). Idiots.
 

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Mark Dey said:
Sure you can - just make a separate peace with the alliance leader first, right?

-Mark
How can I make a separate peace with the alliance leader? :confused: If I make peace with a leader I make peace with the alliance.
Still the whole issue is very annoying. Lets's say in ACGEEP Hungary at one moment becomes a vassal of Poland. And thats it, you'll never get any land from them as long as they are vassals.
 

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Sekenr said:
How can I make a separate peace with the alliance leader? :confused: If I make peace with a leader I make peace with the alliance.
Still the whole issue is very annoying. Lets's say in ACGEEP Hungary at one moment becomes a vassal of Poland. And thats it, you'll never get any land from them as long as they are vassals.

iirc, you can click on the part where it says "Blah, alliance leader" or somesuch when you first pick 'offer peace'.

I should just install it on this comp so I know what I'm talking about for once...
 

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Thank you Johan, great work!

Just wanted to play EU II anywhy, now even with the newest patch, great timing :D

Best spent money ever!
 

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AI CHANGES:

- AI is now smarter on trade agreements and trade refusals.
- Vassals to human players will no longer ever sign peace with anyone that is at war with their overlords.

This claims that it only works with vassals to human players. Does it also prevent you annexing vassal to AI country? I haven't played new patch a lot so haven't test the new feature yet.
 

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Jeno said:
iirc, you can click on the part where it says "Blah, alliance leader" or somesuch when you first pick 'offer peace'.

I should just install it on this comp so I know what I'm talking about for once...
Ohhhhhhhh :eek: I didn't know that :eek:o Than its not such a big issue after all
 

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Elio Vasa said:
Hey,
I searched for HEL leaders (30!) without finding them ... :confused:

I am d/ling the patch at the moment.

But they SHOULD be in the RandomLeader.csv file in the leader folder. They are leader names not actual leaders.

The list of names were erroneaously placed in the wrong randomleader file (the one in the DB folder) in the Betapatch.

Hopefully this has been fixed. If not go to the end of the file in the DB folder, copy them and paste them in the right file in the Leader folder.

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