[1.05g] Incorrect Succession for Lord Mayors

[trias10]

I know that someone on these forums was complaining about really strange succession law changes occurring in the mid to late game, and I am now experiencing this bug as well.

I have several lord mayors in the duchy of Tripolitania and Cyraenica, and these mayors have been around for several generations. Suddenly, one of them dies and I notice my personal demesne has increased. Apparently, after one of these lord mayors died, his city went to me, the queen. I look at the titles, and all of them say Primogeniture succession, with me, the queen, as the heir. I then look at all of the Lord Mayors in Tripolitania and Cyraenica, and lo and behold, all of the cities therein have Primogeniture succession with me as the heir designate.

This can't be right, cities should never be Primogeniture.

I know a lot of people have reported this bug, where strange, nonsensical succession laws hit Prince-Bishoprics and Cities (Prince Bishoprics becoming elective instead of investiture, cities becoming primogeniture, prince-archbishoprics becoming primogeniture, etc), especially in the late game. What is the current status of this bug? Has it been confirmed and is due to be fixed?

If needed, I can upload a save file showing this odd primogeniture behavior.

 

[K-vald]

Thank you for reporting it, that save file would be much appreciated, yes.

 

[trias10]

Sure, please see the attached file.

Please take a look at the following 2 characters:

Doge Norman I of Cyrenaica (ruling in county of Benghazi)

Doge Amaury I of Tripolitania (ruling in county of Leptis Magna)

For each of these characters, please hover the mouse over each of their city titles and you will see the succession as Primogeniture and the Queen as the heir designate.

View attachment 1145_02_18.7z

 

[K-vald]

Confirmed, will pass it on!

 

[Doomdark]

I'm afraid the save games are useless. I need a case which replicates the turning of a republic into a feudal state (primogeniture.) The bug might be fixed though, if it had anything to do with mayors/bishops changing religion and getting the wrong succession law.

 

[trias10]

I'm afraid the save games are useless. I need a case which replicates the turning of a republic into a feudal state (primogeniture.) The bug might be fixed though, if it had anything to do with mayors/bishops changing religion and getting the wrong succession law.

I've got a pretty long history of saves with this current game. I'll see if I can find one before the change occurs and follow it through to the change taking place. Will let you know once I have it.

 

[trias10]

I'm afraid the save games are useless. I need a case which replicates the turning of a republic into a feudal state (primogeniture.) The bug might be fixed though, if it had anything to do with mayors/bishops changing religion and getting the wrong succession law.

Doomdark, mission accomplished.

I have found a save file which captures the strange switch of a city going from open elective to primogeniture. It is perfectly replicable.

Here is how to do it:

1) Open the file and make sure it is paused.

2) Open the character of Lord Mayor Amaury of Leptis Magna (County of Leptis Magna), notice his titles of Grand City of Leptis Magna, and Grand City of Syrte -- both are Open Elective!

3) Open the character of Doge Clemence I of Tripolitania (County of Tripolitania), notice his titles: the Duchy (Republic) of Tripolitania is Elective, but his 2 Grand Cities are Primogeniture.

4) Make sure game is still paused

5) Kill Doge Clemence I of Tripolitania (either via Assassination or console), his Grand City titles will goto the Queen, while the Republic will pass to Amaury in Leptis Magna

6) Open the character of (now) Doge Amaury I of Leptis Magna (County of Leptis Magna), notice that all his titles, including the new duchy, are still Elective

7) * Unpause the game for just ONE day *

8) Now look at all of Doge Amaury's titles: the 2 Grand Cities are now Primogeniture with the Queen as heir. The Duchy is still Elective but the Queen is now the heir.


Save file: 9 August, 1144

View attachment test_city_primo.7z

 

[trias10]

K-vald, could you please ensure that a developer sees my updated save file (post #7)? This is a pretty severe bug and my latest file captures the transition of a city into a primogeniture feudal state (just as Doomdark requested), rather than just showing it after the fact. A stack trace and some step throughs should help determine exactly where the bug is occurring.

 

[K-vald]

Will pass the update on, thank you!

 

[Doomdark]

Thank you, this should now be fixed. Note that the real problem here is that Doge Clemence I of Tripolitania does not have the proper Republican succession law, but Feudal Elective.

 

[trias10]

Thank you, this should now be fixed. Note that the real problem here is that Doge Clemence I of Tripolitania does not have the proper Republican succession law, but Feudal Elective.

How would something like that occur? Also, if I may ask, was this bug in the exe or in succession_laws.txt? I ask because I'm currently trying to edit succession_laws.txt to fix this for my current game (as it's becoming a big problem, all my grand cities are going to primo). Looking at the code, I understand that what's causing primogeniture is that the is_feudal trigger appears to be a value of "yes" for the titles in question. I was thinking of the following fix:

succ_primogeniture = {
		oldest_child_opinion = 20
		child_opinion = -20
		dynasty_opinion = -5
		potential = {
			OR = {
				is_landless_type_title = no
				title = e_golden_horde
				title = e_il-khanate
				title = e_timurids
			}
			is_primary_type_title = no
			OR = {
				AND = {
					tier = baron
					is_feudal = yes
				}
				holder_scope = { is_feudal = yes }
			}
                        NOT = { holder_scope = { is_republic = yes } }
                        NOT = { holder_scope = { is_theocracy = yes } }
		}
		allow = {
			OR = {
				has_crown_law_title = no
				crownlaw_title = {
					OR = {
						has_law = centralization_3
						has_law = centralization_4
					}
				}
			}
		}
		
		effect = {
			succession = primogeniture
		}
		revoke_allowed = {
			always = no
		}			
	}

 

[Doomdark]

The bug was in the script. This is what it should look like:

succ_feudal_elective = {
		oldest_child_opinion = -30
		child_opinion = -10
		dynasty_opinion = -5
		vassal_opinion = 20
		potential = {
			NOT = { holder_scope = { religion_group = muslim } }
			OR = {
				is_landless_type_title = no
				title = e_golden_horde
				title = e_il-khanate
				title = e_timurids
			}
			is_primary_type_title = no
			NOT = { tier = baron }
			OR = {
				AND = {
					tier = baron
					is_feudal = yes
				}
				holder_scope = { is_feudal = yes }
			}
		}
		effect = {
			succession = feudal_elective
		}
		revoke_allowed = {
			always = no
		}			
	}

 

[trias10]

Thanks Doomdark!

No changes required to succ_primogeniture?

 

[Doomdark]

Thanks Doomdark!

No changes required to succ_primogeniture?

Nope