1.04 bug Spanish civil war

[Spruce]

In my Germany game (1936 scenario on normal) I had a very reasonable Spanish civil war with the Nationalists gaining the upper hand in 1938-1939. The Republicans hold on to 3 provinces in the center of the land.

I save and load as Nationalist Spain (and besides IC) the Republicans are easely outmatched 5 to 1. I attacked on all fronts, after 14 days Madrid is taken ... why is the AI so reluctant ? Must be a bug I recall from the old HOI2 days.

 

[Blecky]

In my Germany game (1936 scenario on normal) I had a very reasonable Spanish civil war with the Nationalists gaining the upper hand in 1938-1939. The Republicans hold on to 3 provinces in the center of the land.

I save and load as Nationalist Spain (and besides IC) the Republicans are easely outmatched 5 to 1. I attacked on all fronts, after 14 days Madrid is taken ... why is the AI so reluctant ? Must be a bug I recall from the old HOI2 days.

Looks like the AI doesn´t like to concentrate its forces. Instead they´re spread out all over the provinces. For some reason this seems only to be true with the SCW and NatChi vs. Guanxi AI.

 

[Spruce]

Looks like the AI doesn´t like to concentrate its forces. Instead they´re spread out all over the provinces. For some reason this seems only to be true with the SCW and NatChi vs. Guanxi AI.

yes, I agree the AI did spread out their forces, but the spread was reasonable as I proved by loading and attacking all out and winning less then 14 days.

btw = in my current game the Republicans were finally wiped out - I guess that a save - load might have helped here. But with the odds I spotted it was really a no-brainer for the AI - why is it so reluctant ?

 

[Blecky]

btw = in my current game the Republicans were finally wiped out - I guess that a save - load might have helped here. But with the odds I spotted it was really a no-brainer for the AI - why is it so reluctant ?

Same happened in my games. Saving and reloading resulted in more activity in Spain, esp. if the Nationalists have a huge advantage. So this might be a problem of CPU time/priority allocated to those AI calculations?

 

[aprogressivist]

It may be AI scripting. IIRC, the AI is made far more conservative for the SPA/SPR civil war precisely to make it last longer...

 

[Blecky]

It may be AI scripting. IIRC, the AI is made far more conservative for the SPA/SPR civil war precisely to make it last longer...

Possibly. But that doesn´t explain the same behavior regarding NatChi and Guanxi.

 

[Hevendor]

I currently have a three year long SCW in which the borders have not yet changed at all. I've been dumping excess divisions, resources and supplies on the Republicans and have yet to see them take a single province.

 

[Electric]

I currently have a three year long SCW in which the borders have not yet changed at all. I've been dumping excess divisions, resources and supplies on the Republicans and have yet to see them take a single province.

I play as URSS. May 1941 and SCW is still on. No major moves from one or other country.

 

[Hevendor]

I play as URSS. May 1941 and SCW is still on. No major moves from one or other country.

I should note that I am also playing as the Soviets.

 

[eleven_west]

In 2 games as Germany, I got a SCW stalemate every time up to 1941 however I thought that this has something to do with me playing the CORE2 mod.

It's just the AI doesn't attack, nationalists or republicans don't matter they're just stuck there

 

[Electric]

Already '43...SCW remains the same.
One question...Land Doctrines for Urss are concentrated in '41. to complete all 3 of them i need almost 3 years? . Complicated for multiplayer games. :wacko:

 

[Spruce]

Looks like the AI doesn´t like to concentrate its forces. Instead they´re spread out all over the provinces. For some reason this seems only to be true with the SCW and NatChi vs. Guanxi AI.

Yes, I had exactly the same issue when playing Japan. NatChi and Guanxi Clique front doesn't move at all during more then a year. Then suddenly, an event fires were Guanxi Clique is cut in half and given to NatChi without a proper fight !

 

[Blecky]

Yes, I had exactly the same issue when playing Japan. NatChi and Guanxi Clique front doesn't move at all during more then a year. Then suddenly, an event fires were Guanxi Clique is cut in half and given to NatChi without a proper fight !

That event never fired in more than ten games. Instead Guanxi "unites", meaning the have a white peace, but they don´t join the war against Japan. However, when NatChi is crushed, usually in mid 1938, they surrender to Japan