1.02 beta feedback

[unmerged(207481)]

Here is some of the stuff I think needs looking at, apart from this everything is great!

China really needs some nerfing, Japan is hopeless against them and is greatly outnumbered to a point where it is impossible to make any land gains.

German AI is good but have done some weird things such as declare war on the USSR when they haven't even attacked France yet so they proceed to get stomped, maybe that was just a one off though.

America has started to conduct amphibious land assaults with moderately sized armies except they always pick very weird places such as the south of Greece where upon landing they don't move at all when faced with 5 Italian divisions to there 30.

USSR don't even try to develop nukes, in 1950 they hadn't even started on anything to do with nuclear technology therefore there is no real cold war.

USSR are still a bit to strong, although Germany does better in Barbarossa they still don't get that far, maybe this is just from my experience though

After Germany is defeated all the allied powers/communists refuse to attack Japan and instead carry out regular bombings and never invade with troops despite Japan having 10 or so divisions, this causes the war with Japan to go on until 1950 or so until they eventually get nuked into submission.

Free France never forms, at least in the games I have played I have never seen it form, this means when the US capture France it never cedes to Free France.

Apart from this everything seems great, keep it up!

 

[eleinvisible]

German AI is good but have done some weird things such as declare war on the USSR when they haven't even attacked France yet so they proceed to get stomped, maybe that was just a one off though.

America has started to conduct amphibious land assaults with moderately sized armies except they always pick very weird places such as the south of Greece where upon landing they don't move at all when faced with 5 Italian divisions to there 30.

USSR don't even try to develop nukes, in 1950 they hadn't even started on anything to do with nuclear technology therefore there is no real cold war.

After Germany is defeated all the allied powers/communists refuse to attack Japan and instead carry out regular bombings and never invade with troops despite Japan having 10 or so divisions, this causes the war with Japan to go on until 1950 or so until they eventually get nuked into submission.

I've noticed these same things, although I played 1.01. And Japan never surrendered as America was intent on nuking Indonesia of all places...

 

[Jarno]

only the usa ai builds nukes, the other ai's has no build reactors in there ai build list.

 

[LiamRiordan]

only the usa ai builds nukes, the other ai's has no build reactors in there ai build list.

That should be altered really, a late 40's Germany with nukes would be scary as hell. Or a 50's Soviets.

More nukes makes the player scream DAI AI!

 

[Lanassa]

And Japan never surrendered as America was intent on nuking Indonesia of all places...

Does the AI prioritize oil manufacturing provinces as nuke targets? Cause then that would make sense.

 

[Jarno]

from hoi2 i noticed it focus its nukes on provinces with most points/ic not just resources, however they may have changed it.

 

[eleinvisible]

Does the AI prioritize oil manufacturing provinces as nuke targets? Cause then that would make sense.

Could be. But it should prioritize enemy IC and capitals first...

 

[Westphalian]

It's really hard in my opinion. That's great!
As Germany it was really difficult to take out france. It took me nearly 2 month, they have a real big army and constant counterattacks are being launched. I never saw something like that. Sealion was easy because the british ai have to many division at the maginot line and they still dont guard the british coast. I stopped my first germany game before barbarossa.
As SU i paused my game shortly after barbarossa. Germany is really scary. Although the german ai was really late with their decisions(Anschluss late 1938, munich summer 1939 etc) they have a huge army ~150 divisons at fall gelb ~220 divisions at barbarossa. Petain accepted hitlers proposal and now i face a german 500 ic and france 160 ic enemy. I just dont understand why if have -30% peacetime ic and -25% wartime ic, is this wad or does it change anytime? Britain is doing well in Africa.
As mentioned before japan is overstrained in the current version. The chinese army is just too big. Pearl Harbour make no sense, the oil embargo make no sense if japan is not in the position to do something against china.
Overall the ai is very aggressive. That cover the natural stupidity of the ai. Sometimes it feel like a human opponent! The only problem is that in most cases the ai do not know, what to do with a gained advantage. For example: france attacked my flank and won some battles but after that they are not really determined to push further so that i can encirle them easily. But to be honest it's better than france did in reality.

 

[Fernando Torres]

But to be honest it's better than france did in reality.

Indeed LOL

 

[Pioniere]

Japan is too slow I say they attacked the allies in 1941 and didn't take out the Philippines before mid 1943.
They advanced very bad in china hardly taken any objectives.
If UK surrenders to Germany I think it should have a positive effect for Japan also.

 

[Pioniere]

I think Germany would have this as useful tech team;Heimsoeth & Rinke;T_GER_Heimsoeth&Rinke;6;1934;1970;electronics;management;mathematics;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

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T_GER_Heimsoeth&Rinke

Italy
;Guglielmo Nasi;T_ITA_GNasi;5;1934;1957;large_unit_tactics;centralized_execution;training;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Nasi


CylonU83
;Sir John Lionel Kotelawala;T_U83_Kotelawala;2;1942;1970;centralized_execution;small_unit_tactics;combined_arms_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kotelawala

 

[gorgias96]

Bad german IA. Summer of 40, Germany attacks the URSS. Germany 120 divs, URSS 300 divs. One year after that. USA declared war to Germany in january, 6 months after that, in summer, all france is liberated, in east front 60 german divs try to stop 200 soviet divs..... conclusion no real war, no real game.

 

[walrus]

only the usa ai builds nukes, the other ai's has no build reactors in there ai build list.

Please please please PLEASE fix this, or at the very least, tell us how to quickly change it.

 

[xtfoster]

Please please please PLEASE fix this, or at the very least, tell us how to quickly change it.

It is very easy to change, but first you have to ask yourself a question: Do you want to penalize the AI further? Because of the IC cost and time to build up to a level 6 reactor (which is needed to produce nukes), you are going to SEVERELY impact any other construction that nation will do (i.e., more IC, units, etc.). Truthfully, the USA is the only country that can afford to do this while they are at war.

 

[Unit101]

Is there a particular reason why it is impossible as the US to build separate Armored divisions? I checked the "Basic Medium Tank" technology and it gives other nations (like Germany) other techs than the USA. After this tech Germany gets activate unit type ARM, the USA doesn't.

 

[^_AC_^]

You need to research Armour Division Formation as Land Dcotrine to build armored Divisions.

 

[jackbgibson]

I would like to see more tech slots as the default. Maybe I just don't do it right, but in order to develop everything which was historically developed, 5 slots just doesn't do it.

For example, to develop nuclear weapons and rocketry/jets takes up 1 slot for many years.
To develop an airborne capability also takes up a slot (paratroopers and air transport) for years.
In order to develop historical land, sea and air doctrines requires a dedicated slot for each for years.

So to sum up, developing nuclear/rocket/jet, airborne and 3 doctrines leaves no slots left over for infantry, armor or aircraft research.

I have been playing with 6 slots. Nothing crazy seems to happen, and I get my airborne capability.

 

[Pioniere]

I would like to see more tech slots as the default. Maybe I just don't do it right, but in order to develop everything which was historically developed, 5 slots just doesn't do it.
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1+

Agree instead of just the mod guide to show us how get more tech slots let us have it as an option in before we start a new game like a minimum of 5 to a maximum of 10 or 12. how many slots you can have when you play is dependeds on your IC level..

 

[unmerged(109233)]

In my game where I played as Germany, the Barbarossa events never fired. This basically meant that defeating the USSR became pretty much next to impossible. Couldn't find the events in any of the files either. Maybe I'll try reinstalling 1.02

 

[^_AC_^]

It's not an event, it's a decision. And it only makes Germany declare war on SU, so it's not really necessary for the war.