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[UMACI]

If we are to get the Shezarrines and Nerevarine, doesn't it make sense to have their race as the default character(the first one in the creation screen)? Defaults are a Dunmer for Morrowind, an Imperial for Oblivion and a Nord for Skyrim. As for the first two games, they didn't have a default iirc, instead they had a map with the question "Where do you hail from?". Oh and also, Nerevarine is most probably a bastard; "...On a certain day to uncertain parents
Incarnate moon and star reborn..."

 

[Heinrich4]

Morrowind is saved by an Argonian

No, the nerevarine can be of any race.

 

[Darth Cheesecak]

No, the nerevarine can be of any race.

You... seem to have missed the entire point of the post good fellow.

The bit about making up your own canon *preferably with irony in mind* for the mod... in case the fine people making the mod wanted to include characters like that.

 

[EvilCatInTheHat]

If the protagonists from the Elder Scrolls games are implemented, they would be through event or event chain and their race/gender would be random.

 

[Tragliano]

Well, at least we know Nerevarine comes back in 5th Era, riding Akulakhan to battle Numidium Returned and allowing Dunmers and Hist to escape to the Moon on Wonderweir, them escaping anti-creation of Nirn! What a relief.

 

[Arakhor]

I think that even their inclusion would come perilously close towards the proscription against all godlike characters.

 

[thisistherevolt]

If the protagonists from the Elder Scrolls games are implemented, they would be through event or event chain and their race/gender would be random.

I look forward to the day I see a female barbarian Maormer save Morrowind, or an Akaviri magistrate Champion, perhaps a nightblade Snow Elf Dragonborn even.

 

[darthfanta]

I think that even their inclusion would come perilously close towards the proscription against all godlike characters.

The way I see it,a playable hero will most likely have really high stats,especially in terms of martial.The only thing ground breaking they may have may be insane personal combat skill and some bonuses in leading battles.They are most certainly not as crazy as gods,unless you decide to make a post-Shivering Isles CoC.

 

[Novacat]

Well, at least we know Nerevarine comes back in 5th Era, riding Akulakhan to battle Numidium Returned and allowing Dunmers and Hist to escape to the Moon on Wonderweir, them escaping anti-creation of Nirn! What a relief.

Dunmer and Khajiit. The Hist likely escaped using their own means.

 

[Tragliano]

Dunmer and Khajiit. The Hist likely escaped using their own means.

Khajiit were already there (they established colony on the moon during Second Empire I believe), but you may be right. As for Hist, I do remember them escaping on Wonderweir as well, but I may be mistaken.

 

[Vanhal]

What sort of impact do you want him to make?

Events. Like for example last time when Jyggalag was around as himself all Daedra princes allied (that would be only time?) to get rid of him. And this time nothing, not even mentioning his existence. Even with strenghtened barrier betewwn Mundus and Oblivion daedric problems usually tends to spread rather quickly.

It would definitely make a Ewwww Stormcloak run more amusing.

"No guys I totally support your separating from the Empire! That's what is best for Skyrim and the Domini.... Nords!"

Not even mentioning that Dark Brotherhood mission. Tullius was right all the time...

 

[darthfanta]

Events. Like for example last time when Jyggalag was around as himself all Daedra princes allied (that would be only time?) to get rid of him. And this time nothing, not even mentioning his existence. Even with strenghtened barrier betewwn Mundus and Oblivion daedric problems usually tends to spread rather quickly.



Not even mentioning that Dark Brotherhood mission. Tullius was right all the time...

The point is that the present Sheogorath isn't Jyggalag.As for Jyggalag,no one even knows where he is presently.He could have been done in by the other daedra princes again for all that we know of.

By the way,what about the Dark Brotherhood?

 

[Arakhor]

What about the Dark Brotherhood?

 

[darthfanta]

What about the Dark Brotherhood?

Vanhal said something about a Dark Brotherhood mission proving Tullius was right.I'm not sure what he meant.

 

[Vanhal]

Vanhal said something about a Dark Brotherhood mission proving Tullius was right.I'm not sure what he meant.

Ah, i meant that if Dovahkiin was Altmer fighting for the Stormcloaks and murdering emperor as DB agent it would prove Tullius theory about Thalmor orchestrating events in Skyrim even more. No matter what the truth really is.

 

[darthfanta]

Ah, i meant that if Dovahkiin was Altmer fighting for the Stormcloaks and murdering emperor as DB agent it would prove Tullius theory about Thalmor orchestrating events in Skyrim even more. No matter what the truth really is.

Well,there's a difference between Thalmors and Altmers.The Thalmor's more or like the Nazi government of Germany and all their cronies while the Altmer's more like the German race.Just as there are a lot of German Americans,there's also a lot of Altmers who are imperial citizens living in the mainland of Tamriel.The Dovahkiin,even when he/she's an Altmer,is described to be an imperial citizen living on the mainland.You don't get the option to declare that you are actually from the Summerset Isles.

 

[Tragliano]

After all Chancellor Ocato himself, who was de facto ruling the Third Empire after Septim dynasty ended, was an Altmer himself, and wasn't shy about that. He was murdered by said Thalmor. So, while we cannot but equation mark between Altmers and Thalmor, something must be said very strongly:

To kill Man is to ascend to Heaven. That's what Altmers, as anti-Lorkhanic, believe.

And Thalmor wins in the end.

 

[Ezumiyr]

Well,there's a difference between Thalmors and Altmers.The Thalmor's more or like the Nazi government of Germany and all their cronies while the Altmer's more like the German race.Just as there are a lot of German Americans,there's also a lot of Altmers who are imperial citizens living in the mainland of Tamriel.The Dovahkiin,even when he/she's an Altmer,is described to be an imperial citizen living on the mainland.You don't get the option to declare that you are actually from the Summerset Isles.

It's not comparable, there is no such thing as a "German race" (and a "German American", especially in the context of the WW2, is a complex notion), while there is an Altmer race. Especially because we are on the Elder Kings forum, where a character can be racially Almer and culturally imperial... or even nord. (edit: also, don't forget about the mod concept of Altmer pure blood).
People should definitely stop to compare Tamriel with the real world, it's never a good idea.

 

[Onebitsoul]

It's not comparable, there is no such thing as a "German race" (and a "German American", especially in the context of the WW2, is a complex notion), while there is an Altmer race. Especially because we are on the Elder Kings forum, where a character can be racially Almer and culturally imperial... or even nord. (edit: also, don't forget about the mod concept of Altmer pure blood).
People should definitely stop to compare Tamriel with the real world, it's never a good idea.

It actually is a good idea, since the Aldmeri Dominion does resemble the Third Reich quite a bit.

- They think they're the master race and better than everyone else, humans of Tamriel being the jews, slavs, africans, anyone who the German leadership thought to be "bad".
- They demanded land from a neighbor, which the neighbor refused, resulting in a full-scale war that lasted for years.
- Started a war. A big one.
- Before the war, they both first seized 2 neighbors by coup or force. (Valenwood and Elsweyr for the Altmer, Czechoslovakia and Austria for Germany). Nobody responded to this.

I could probably think of more similarities but these are the ones on my mind already.

 

[Novacat]

Especially because we are on the Elder Kings forum, where a character can be racially Almer and culturally imperial... or even nord.

Not anymore. I removed that a few patches back. While mixed culture/graphical culture is still possible, it can only happen within the same culture group.

And Thalmor wins in the end.

"wins" is a very loaded word. As of the 5th era, the Thalmor, or Altmer for that matter, no longer exist.