[Mod] Female Titles For Council Jobs

yclept · Feb 22, 2014

What is it?

Female Titles for Council Jobs, adds the following Minor Titles for adult women, with fairly strict requirements, which when granted allow the holder to be appointed to council jobs (or lead armies) when this might otherwise be forbidden.

Châtelaine

To be entrusted with the management of a noble household was a prestigious position for a woman.

Grantor Criteria: None.
Holder Criteria: a Daughter, Sister, Wife, Concubine, or (female) Lover of the grantor, who is not incapable, an imbecile, or infirm, and who has an education of Thrifty Clerk or better (Stewardship) or Flamboyant Schemer or better (Intrigue).
Allows Jobs: Spymaster, Steward
Number Available: 1
Opinion: +10

Abbess

To be elected Abbess of a community of women religious was one of the most prestigious positions a Christian woman could aspire to.

Grantor Criteria: Catholic or Fraticelli, with Free Investiture.
Holder Criteria: Any nun over 40 years of age, who is not incapable, or an imbecile.
Allows Jobs: Spiritual Advisor (aka Court Chaplain)
Number Available: 1
Opinion: +15

Coregent

Recognised as her lord's full equal in temporal power, a wife, or female heir, who ruled jointly with her liege might become an asset to the realm, assuming she could be trusted.

Grantor Criteria: 50+ opinion of the candidate.
Holder Criteria: Must be the grantor's Wife, or the grantor's current (female) Heir. Must not be incapable, an imbecile, shy or craven.
Additional Effect: (beware!) Holder gains strong inheritable claims to all the grantor's titles. (beware!)
Allows Jobs: Chancellor, Steward, Spymaster, and if a Skilled Tactician or Brilliant Strategist, Marshal/Lead Troops
Number Available: 1
Opinion: +50 (net +30 after 'title claimant' effect)

Militissa of the Order of Saint Barbara

Although never unknown, women noted for prowess in battle were uncommon outside of legend. The noble dynasty that experienced those legends in real life, and thus considered such women prestigious, was rarer still.

Grantor Criteria: A member of the grantor's dynasty knighted the Maid during the J'eanne D'Archetype event chain whilst the mod was loaded.
Holder Criteria: Is the Maid and has been knighted (automatically granted), or has any two of Strong, Brave, Tough Soldier, Skilled Tactician, or Brilliant Strategist, and is not Craven, Incapable, or Infirm.
Allows Jobs: Marshal/Lead Troops
Number Available: 3
Opinion: +10

Shieldmaiden

Although never unknown, women noted for prowess in battle were uncommon outside of legend. The culture or religion that acknowledged them in real life, and considered them prestigious, was rarer still.

Grantor Criteria: Norse Pagan or Reformed Norse Pagan, or Celtic, West Germanic, or North Germanic and either non-Christian or has Sympathy for Pagans
Holder Criteria: Has any two of Strong, Brave, Tough Soldier, Skilled Tactician, or Brilliant Strategist, and is not Craven, Incapable, or Infirm.
Allows Jobs: Marshal/Lead Troops.
Number Available: 3
Opinion: +10

Isn't this Minor Title thing a bit convoluted? Why not just change the criteria for Council jobs directly?

Admittedly I made this mod mostly as an exercise when I noticed that the Sons of Abraham patch added in character event flags (needed to support the Demon Child and J'eanne D'Archetype event chains) which override the usual job criteria. Minor titles are therefore not necessarily the smartest way to implement any of these particular roles, but I was more interested in the mechanism.

On the other hand, directly modding the job criteria does have the big disadvantage of setting up a conflict with any other mod that wants to do the same -- and it is a pretty common thing for a mod to want to do. This method should be much cleaner. Also, having a minor title means the number of women who hold it, and thus able to do the job, at any one time is limited, and you have to manually decide to make them eligible rather than having them automatically appear in the list of candidates, which adds a smidgen more gameplay and flavour to the exercise.

Requirements

Crusader Kings II version 2.0.4 (should work with any 2.0.x version but not tested)
The Sons of Abraham DLC (some titles may work without)

Download

FemaleTitlesForCouncilJobs_1.0.1_ck2_2.0.4.zip

Earlier Versions

FemaleTitlesForCouncilJobs_1.0.0_ck2_2.0.4.zip

Changelog

Version 1.0.1

Added French translation from al3xytp

yclept · Feb 22, 2014

Does it work with other mods?

It should do as long as the other mod supports the use of the special_chancellor, special_treasurer, special_spymaster, special_marshal and special_spiritual flags to override job criteria in the same way that Vanilla 2.0.x does, and doesn't also mod the Jeanne D'Archetype event chain.

Known Problems

Only English and French
'Female Titles for Council Jobs' is a confusing name
Need a better name than Châtelaine for a lot of cultures.
Someone (the Pope, random) should really appoint Abbesses under Papal investiture.
Easy to miss you have women eligible for the titles.
Not sure I've got the title loss effects correct.
If a woman already has the requisite a special flag for another reason they can't be given the title (unless they're the Maid).
What the AI will make of these -- especially Coregent -- is a mystery.

Kudos and Credits

al3xytp for French translation

bitmapmedivh · Feb 22, 2014

Hey, this looks cool.

al3xytp · Feb 22, 2014

I made a french translation. I've not found the french equivalent for Shieldmaiden, though.

FemTitlesJobs_Abbess.csv

Code:

#CODE;ENGLISH;FRENCH;GERMAN;;SPANISH;;;;;;;;;x
FemTitlesJobs_title_abbess;Abbess;Abbesse;;;;;;;;;;;x
FemTitlesJobs_title_abbess_desc;To be elected Abbess of a community of women religious was one of the most prestigious positions a Christian woman could aspire to.\n\nYou may award the title of Abbess due to the free investiture law, and this nun's age. The holder of this title may be made your Spiritual Advisor.;Être désignée abbesse d'une communauté de religieuses était l'une des plus prestigieuses positions à laquelle une chrétienne pouvait aspirer.\n\nVous pouvez attribuer le titre d'Abbesse de fait de l'investiture libre, et de l'âge de cette nonne.  La porteuse de ce titre peut être faite votre conseillère religieuse.;;;;;;;;;;;;x

FemTitlesJobs_Chatelaine.csv

Code:

#CODE;ENGLISH;FRENCH;GERMAN;;SPANISH;;;;;;;;;x
#CODE;ENGLISH;FRENCH;GERMAN;;SPANISH;;;;;;;;;x
FemTitlesJobs_title_chatelaine;Châtelaine;Châtelaine;;;;;;;;;;;x
FemTitlesJobs_title_chatelaine_desc;To be entrusted with the management of a noble household was a prestigious position for a woman.\n\nYou may award the title of Châtelaine to this character due to your close relationship.\nThe holder of this title may be appointed Steward or Spymaster.;Être chargée de la gestion d'un domaine noble était une position prestigieuse pour une femme.\n\nVous pouvez attribuer le titre de Châtelaine à ce personnage du fait de votre relation étroite.;;;;;;;;;;;;x

FemTitlesJobs_Coregent.csv

Code:

#CODE;ENGLISH;FRENCH;GERMAN;;SPANISH;;;;;;;;;x
FemTitlesJobs_title_coregent;Coregent;Corégente;;;;;;;;;;;x
FemTitlesJobs_title_coregent_desc;Recognised as her lord's full equal in temporal power, a wife, or female heir, who ruled jointly with her liege was often an asset to the realm, assuming she could be trusted.\n\nYou may award this title due to your high opinion of your wife or heir.\n\nThe holder of this title may be appointed Chancellor or Treasurer, and if she has a suitable Martial eduction she may also lead armies or be appointed Marshal. However as Coregent she also gains inheritable claims to all your landed titles. Beware!;Reconnue en tant qu'équivalente à son suzerain en pouvoirs, une femme, ou héritière, dirigeant conjointement avec son suzerain était souvent un atout pour le domaine, en supposant qu'elle était digne de confiance.\n\nVous pouvez attribuer ce titre du fait de votre haute opinion de votre femme ou héritière.\n\nCependant, en tant que corégente, elle gagnera des revendications héritables sur tout vos titres.;;;;;;;;;;;;x

FemTitlesJobs_Shiedlmaiden.csv

Code:

#CODE;ENGLISH;FRENCH;GERMAN;;SPANISH;;;;;;;;;x
FemTitlesJobs_title_shieldmaiden;Shieldmaiden;Shieldmaiden;;;;;;;;;;;x
FemTitlesJobs_title_shieldmaiden_desc;Although never unknown, women noted for prowess in battle were uncommon outside of legend. The culture or religion that acknowledged them in real life, and considered them prestigious, was rarer still.\n\nYou may award this title due to your Religion and Culture, and this woman's mix of Strength, Bravery and Martial Skill. The holder of this title may lead troops or be appointed Marshal.;Bien que jamais inconnues, les femmes remarquées pour leurs prouesses au combat étaient peu fréquentes en dehors des légendes. Les cultures et les religions à les reconnaître dans la vraie vie, et à les considérer prestigieuses, étaient encore plus rare.\n\nVous pouvez attribuer ce titre du fait de votre religion et culture, et le mélange de courage, bravoure et compétences martiales de cette femme. La porteuse ce titre peut diriger des troupes et être appointée maréchale.;;;;;;;;;;;;x
FemTitlesJobs_title_orderofthemaid;Militissa of the Order of Saint Barbara;Militissa de l'Ordre de Sainte Barbara ;;;;;;;;;;;x
FemTitlesJobs_title_orderofthemaid_desc;Although never unknown, women noted for prowess in battle were uncommon outside of legend. The noble dynasty that acknowledged them in real life, and considered them prestigious, was rarer still.\n\nYou may award this title due to your Religion and Culture, and this woman's mix of Strength, Bravery and Martial Skill. The holder of this title may lead troops or be appointed Marshal.;Bien que jamais inconnues, les femmes remarquées pour leurs prouesses au combat étaient peu fréquentes en dehors des légendes. Les dynasties nobles à les reconnaître dans la vraie vie, et à les considérer prestigieuses, étaient encore plus rare.\n\nVous pouvez attribuer ce titre du fait de votre religion et culture, et le mélange de courage, bravoure et compétences martiales de cette femme.  La porteuse ce titre peut diriger des troupes et être appointée maréchale.;;;;;;;;;;;;x

yclept · Feb 22, 2014

al3xytp said:
I made a french translation. I've not found the french equivalent for Shieldmaiden, though.

Thanks al3xytp!

I'll put those in the next version.

Arko · Feb 23, 2014

Interesting approach^^

for the French for "shieldmaiden" maybe "Dame de fer" or something along this ?

yclept · Feb 23, 2014

Uploaded version 1.0.1 which adds al3xytp's French translation.

ahyangyi · Mar 8, 2014

Arko said:
Interesting approach^^

for the French for "shieldmaiden" maybe "Dame de fer" or something along this ?

French Wikipedia uses "Skjaldmö", which I believe is just the Norse name for Shieldmaiden (though it's a different spelling from all those Scandinavian language wikis).

Since it's a Norse specific thing, maybe it's good to just use the Norse name?

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