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Oh no. I absolutely adore the Lanc, you know.
 
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I fully understand the space constraints. I was just thinking wistfully, remembering the recently late Ian Southall's work. And as you noted, you haven't researched NAV's so they haven't progressed to that stage in TTL.

As to the speed of the storyline, it has taken 3 years and 2 months real time to complete 10 months game time (up to the first Tuesday of November 1936). At this rate, we should reach 1 September 1939 by around October 2019.:eek: We should have HOI6 by then.
 
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excellent stuff pippy, amazing detail again.

now let us avail ourselves as to what is happening over in Yankeeland.

Translation: Who the hell won????

later, caff


P.S.

The Fairey Firefight in flight during flight trials

try saying that three times fast after a few Beers!!:D
 
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Damn, but the Wellesley is ugly. (Someone had to say it).

The Firefight is an interesting idea - I'm not sold on cutting 2/3 of the bombload (I suspect production models will have external bomb shackles in case they need payload more than performance), but getting rid of the superfluous third crewman is a plus, as is the provision for dive bombing. The real benefit will be if the Air Ministry can be made to recognise them as CAS aircraft rather than as minature versions of the medium bombers. Even then, effective CAS doctrine is going to require actual communication with the Army, which is very close to heresy in the minds of the pre-war RAF top brass.

So the Wellington is the sacrifice? That must have been a blow to Bomber Command - historically the Wellington was seen as the War-Winning Stategic Bomber (the four-engine heavies hadn't been thought of yet). Unless Bomber Command have been collectively mind-controlled by aliens expect them to die in the last ditch protecting their "independent mission", so there will be screaming for more STRATs - or are they so far away with the fairies that they think they can do it with Whitleys and Hampdens?
 
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We need another railway update.

I was inspired to say that because I just bought the British Transport Films Collection on DVD from Amazon.
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Sir Humphrey please go and write on the blackboard "I shall not remind El Pip of Railways" one thousand times. :eek:

Colonel Merrick I agree 100% that the Wellesley is an ugly duckling, and I find myself agreeing despite myself that the Fairey Firefight is a good idea. I mean, so long as it can dive-bomb (an innately more accurate way of delivering a small bomb to its target), then it should be an important first step for the RAF. :cool:

I still think we need Wing Cmdr Guy Gibson to show us how to dive-bomb. I mean, kudos in spades to the man who collapsed the nose of his heavy twin-engined bomber whilst dive-bombing it against german capital ships! :eek:

And talking of Messrs Gibson and Bader, they were strangely similar. Both excellent pilots, driven, gifted, inspirational, opinionated and with the ear of their superiors. Don't know what Gibson did to annoy the Swedes, but it probably had something to do with bridges or ships and a malfunctioning air compass...

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Philistine.
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trekaddict - It was a marvellous plane and, perhaps more importantly, there are loads of pictures of it. My appetite for a-historic aircraft has diminished somewhat under the pressure of finding suitable visuals for never-where or might have been designs.

Davout - The Sunderland was a funny one in certain regards. The production order went in early 1936, yet the first prototype flight wasn't till late 1937 with volume deliveries not till almost the end of 1938. Quite how to fit that around the HoI2 tech tree I'm not sure, particularly as I'm aware I can't keep 'rushing' every design. Something to ponder for a few updates time.

Pwn*Star - The SCW does have tanks, cunning plans and explicit arrows on map action. How could anyone not like it? :D

caffran - A good question, I hope the answer is as good.

merrick - Very true on the Wellesley, the prototypes were slightly prettier apparently (the engine to fuselage connection was cowled and the 'hump' at the back recessed) but less practical.

As I understand it the light bomber men were mostly under Fighter Command control (or Fighting Area as it was), therefore they were very much aware of the progress in fighter performance. For them it was only natural to specify very high performance as the over-riding feature, even at the cost of bomb load.

Given the constraints of size and the fuselages I think the switch will probably be upping the size of the hardpoints not adding more. That'll give 2 x 500lb for a 1,000lb total, though the Firefight might, just might, have space for some internal capacity, but that'll mean removing the MGs.

Treating them as CAS though, I think that's a step too far. Even using radios between ground forces and RAF bases for aerial policing was considered radical, and certainly nothing in North Africa will change the RAFs mind. As to Spain though, well we'll have to see.

Finally the Wellington, Bomber Command really aren't happy about the delays, but then they did argue the Whitleys over Rome was a war changing success so it's mostly self inflicted. That said the Wellington is still coming, it just didn't get the priority it got in OTL (and the war meant the Air Ministry wanted aircraft now, not prototypes for testing). I'd say the Wellington is about a year behind OTL schedule, though it will get through testing far faster so I'm not certain where it will all net out.

Spanden - Well at least you've got a good excuse. ;)

Sir Humphrey - Railway porn is, I fear the least popular of all technology related updates. Good choice on the BTFC set though, BBC4 were showing a load recently and some are crackers.

RAFspeak - To be fair the RAF were using dive bombers in the 1920s, sadly the technology wasn't really up to it (not to mention the dislike of helping the Army). Hence the Air Staff ditched the entire concept, by the time it became apparent they were wrong it was really too late.

So it's not really a first step, more a remembering of steps they've already taken (then turned around and walked the wrong way)

Sir Humphrey - So true sir, so true. :D

RAFspeak - It's a tempting solution, as long as both sides promised to abide by the outcome I think Whitehall would go for it.


Right next update this afternoon, after I've licked the graphics into shape.
 
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Has Cricket been affected? Should Douglas Jardine enter politics and rise up the greasy pole...?
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Of course he, as Prime Minister, would have the best ever putdown line, to paraphrase a real conversation he had in his career:
Chief Whip: "They don't seem to like you very much over here, Mr Jardine."
Jardine: "The feeling is fucking mutual".
 
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Has Cricket been affected? Should Douglas Jardine enter politics and rise up the greasy pole...?
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Of course the Cricket is fine, it takes more than a little local difficulty in the Med to distract the MCC from the vital business of Test Matches. Douglas Jardine was an absolute legend though, no ifs or buts about it.
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And now to an update;
 
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Chapter LXIX: From Hope to Confusion
Chapter LXIX: From Hope to Confusion

The results and aftermath of the 1936 Presidential election were neither unprecedented nor exceptionally controversial, the 19th century contains several elections with clear parallels, notably those of 1824 and 1876. That is not to say the results were straightforward, far from it, the distribution of votes and states was well outside the typical electoral patterns of the time, a factor that fuelled conspiracy theories as people struggled to interpret the results. Some of those theories live on to this day, for the simple lack of a more conventional explanation to otherwise inexplicable results.

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If pressed most experts would nominate the State's Rights Party success in Wyoming and the Republican breakthrough in Louisiana as the most unexpected results, though there are plenty of contenders. The former still has no convincing explanation while the latter remains a breeding ground for conspiracies, usually involving Huey Long. The general form of the conspiracy argues that the Kingfish, eyeing up a Presidential run in 1940, used his dominant influence in the state to keep the Democrat vote at home and ensure Hull's defeat.
Electoral College Winning Line - 266 Electoral Votes

Landon / Vandenberg - Republican - 262 Electoral, 44.1% Popular

Hull / Barley - Democrat - 180 Electoral, 35.9% Popular

Garner / White - State's Rights - 89 Electoral, 20% Popular


The first thing you will notice in the map and table above, after digesting the unusual distribution of winning states, is that Landon is just short of the electoral college winning line of 266 electoral college votes. As noted above this was not unprecedented, indeed in the election fever prior to the voting had been discussed as a distinct possibility. Under the 12th Amendment there was a clearly defined procedure; the candidates would be put forward to Congress, the House of Representatives picking the President from the top three candidates while the Senate selected the Vice President from the top two. All eyes therefore turned to the Congressional race where, it was believed, the State's Rights Party would not be able to produce such success, if only due to a lack of candidates outside it's main power base. The Senate results, being far fewer in number, were naturally the first to come in and soon showed that the Republicans would retain control of the upper house, however many observers noted that the State's Rights vote had held up better than expected, the party picking up half a dozen Senators in states across the South. Finally the tallies for the House elections were announced and a country struggling with the idea of a Presidential election not producing a winner was thrust the matching problem of a House election that left no one party with a majority.

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The make up of the House of Representatives for the 75th United States Congress. With no party able to muster the 218 votes needed for a majority, legislative progress would depend upon multi-party coalition politics; a different beast from the majority government or bi-partisanship Congress was used to.

As the country tried to digest the news the political power brokers from all sides began their calculations. Assuming no faithless electors the electoral college would not produce a majority for any ticket and thus Congress would choose the President and Vice-President, where the options began to multiply. In the Senate the Republicans had a majority, and there were only two candidates to chose from, so they could ensure that Vandenberg was selected as Vice President. However in the House all three candidates went forward and no party had an overall majority, therefore deadlock was a distinct possibility. Assuming the deadlock persisted, and the House couldn't pick a candidate before inauguration day, it would be the Vice-President elect Vandenberg who would serve as Acting President until the House could make up it's mind. It was against this backdrop that the negotiations began, the Republicans having the strongest mandate but the balance of power lying with the State's Rights leadership, who's deadlocking breaking House votes put them in the position of king makers.

The negotiations between the Republicans and the State's Righters were initiated by Vandenberg, due to his favourable views on increasing the power of the states he was viewed as an ideal 'link man'. Somewhat amusingly however it soon became apparent the price of the Righters support in the House for Landon was the Vice Presidency for their candidate. Despite Vandenberg obviously trying to pour cold water on the idea, this offer formed the basis of the negotiations as it served the leadership, if perhaps not the candidates, on both sides. For the Republicans the price, while high, was not extortionate, certainly not compared to the risk of the Righters rejoining the Democrat fold and letting Hull into the White House. From a practical perspective they believed that the office of the Vice President could be sidelined by a skilful Chief of Staff while a 'bi-partisan' Presidency would allow them to spread the blame should anything untoward crop up. For the president himself the prospect of the inexperienced, and low profile, White instead of the combative Vandenberg was particularly appealing, more so as White's views on foreign policy were far closer to Landon's than the absolute isolationist views of Vandenberg.

For the Righters themselves, and particularly the dominant Tammany Hall grouping, the Vice President was as high as they could practically aim given the strength of their hand; the key cabinet posts that were arguably more important than the Vice Presidency were clearly off limits. More importantly White was rapidly becoming a favoured son of the wider party, without the baggage of Garner's disastrous term as Vice President he had embraced the party's platform with the vigour of a convert, something the party leadership had happily exploited on the campaign trail. Much to their surprise the party's platform, having started as a cynical ploy to aid electioneering, had actually had resonated with large swathes of the country, the message getting home to those disillusioned with Washington regardless of President. By the end of the campaign it was the enthusiastic and compelling White, not the distrusted Garner, who was the big draw at the rallies, a fact noted by a leadership more than aware of Garner's shortcomings. Pushing White forward thus pleased the emerging 'base' of the party and gave the party an untainted figurehead, one who's profile could only grow higher over the coming years.

Thus a deal was hammered out, Alf Landon would be President while George White would be his Vice President, the cabinet beneath them would be Republican dominated, though the Righters did get the Department of the Interior and the Department of the Navy. While the latter traditionally a key post the Republicans made it clear Garner's promises of naval expansion were not on the agenda, pushing the Navy down the tree significantly. Conversely the former was generally considered a political backwater yet was a key Righter's target, officially because it was a post the Republicans would be prepared to give up, however the real reason was the department's role as gate keeper to all federal land. While the Departments of Labour and Commerce would attract the attention, all of Landon's commitments to federal public works and rural electrification would have to go through the Department of the Interior, giving it power and influence beyond it's normal remit. More importantly with the Republicans determined to break up the notorious Delaware Valley Authority most of the DVA's responsibilities and records would end up with the Bureau of Reclamation, an agency of Interior. The Righters were naturally keen to retain control of such a source of power and influence, not to mention the chance to ensure the inner workings of the DVA remained suitably obscure. This pattern was repeated down the government as the experienced Righters, many of whom had been with Garner in the White House, out-manoeuvred Landon's staff who

There was, of course, the little matter of how to constitutionally arrange the deal. While Landon's progression to the Presidency could be ensured by letting the system run it course till the Republican and Righters House vote could confirm him, getting White into office would require more creativity. The solution was to convince Vandenberg to publicly pull out, the leadership making it clear he could either leave voluntarily and be rewarded later or be forced out and suffer accordingly. This left the way clear for the Republican Electoral College voters to switch to White, an option perfectly acceptable under the constitution despite Democrat complaints of the moral problems with 'faithless electors'. As Landon and White prepared for office their first problem was, somewhat surprisingly, the US delegation to the Amsterdam Conference. Despite the US presence being little more than an electoral stunt by Garner the new administration was determined to take it seriously, to the extent that one of the conditions from the Republican's in their negotiations was that White be despatched as head of the delegation. The conference would be the first indication of exactly what Landon's 'Moral Neutrality' would mean in practice, by sending the Vice President elect Landon was sending a signal that the US intended to engage more with the outside world, what was less clear was how meaningful that engagement would be and if it would extend beyond words into meaningful actions.

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So Landon is President with White as his VP, the popular vote percentages are exact from the thread election while the states are as per the specific votes (for those that tied I used the popular vote percentage to divy them up). Bit of a mess, but that is what you all voted for. ;)

The P/VP combo should prove fun, particularly when Alf finds out just how dodgy some of his new partners are. That said he doesn't have a lot of choice, the Righters (couldn't think of a better short hand) hold the balance of power in the House so they have to be dealt with and kept relatively sweet.

However Alf will get a fairly free hand in Foreign Policy, though what he'll do with it is a different question. He's no FDR chomping at the bit but equally no pig headed isolationist. 'Moral Neutrality' will be his watchwords, but what he means by them is anybody's guess, till Amsterdam anyway :D

Finally look at the length, a mere 1400 ish words, half the size of the last one. I may yet crack this short update malarkey (assuming no-one felt short-changed by the lack of words). In any event now onto Spain and the war!
 
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Now that is one strange electoral map. :eek:

My first reaction--poor Vandenberg, despite the fact that VP is, well...

John Adams: "the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived.

Thomas R. Marshall (28th VP): "Once there were two brothers. One ran away to sea; the other was elected Vice President of the United States. And nothing was heard of either of them again."

Daniel Webster (when offered VP under Taylor): "I do not intend to be buried until I am dead."

That said, White seems a compelling figure with a real power base and may well have some influence over some important departments perhaps... Plus, curious to see what he does at Amsterdam. ;)
 
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What? No Ironman?!? No wonder noone likes the Yanks! :mad:

Luckily, SCW, and maps full of arrows should set me right again... as long as my revolutionary brothers win! :D

Great update Pippy.

Dury.
 
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I hate to be the one to throw the wrench in the cogs of this last update, but the 12th Amendment requires that the House votes via State for the Presidency. Therefore it wouldn't matter the actual number of reps in the house but how many states the parties had a "majority" of members in. For example, if Louisiana has seven reps and 4 are Democrats then the "State delegation" would vote for Hull. Not that this would change the results, but the Democrats would probably still have a lot of Southern reps despite the Presidential vote. Anyway, I just wanted to point that out.

Other than that little detail it was an excellent update Pip!


Edit: Added more detail
 
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My true candidate lost:(. No Vandenberg. Well, maybe he is not very pleased with being sidelined by party politics and returns in fours years with a vengeance. Or even before that *ominous music*.
 
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Maybe White could do a Cheney and greatly expand the role of the VP.
 
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This does not bode well for America.

Luckily Churchill is going to save them by flying to the US on his angel wings while farting perfume and shooting lightning.
 
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