The Meeting with Chaffinch - March 1450
((This post was created together with @Cheffy, everything form his characters perspective is written in bold))
James of Huntingdon arrived at Bishop Chaffinchs Residency in Newcastle. He was eager to see his son again.
Chaffinch answered the door himself as he was eager to discuss. He asked James to follow him to his study.
As James followed the Bishop through his home he realised how much the young man wanted to show his position he got himself. The rooms where ornamented with rich tapestries and a large library filled his working room.
Realising his guest was curious about his possessions Frederick stated “ I have always been eager to remind myself how far I've come since returning here. Your son showed the same interest as you do now.”
Nodding James let himself down in one of the chairs in front of the Bishops desks. “I thank you for your hospility, but can I see my son now?”
“Robert! Your father has come to collect you!”. The bishop shouted in Russian a language that Chaffinch had been teaching the young lad.
The now man grown Robert thundered down the stairs and into the study. “Father ?” He asked.
James couldn’t believe his eyes when he saw his son again. The 17 year old child that he gave Chaffinch on his journey to Rome has grown to a 23 year old man. James stood up to hug his boy. “Robert, it is good to see you again. I hope your time with the Bishop made you learn a lot?”
“Indeed I have.” James’ heir responded “ I have learned much from him”. The Bishop blushed and quipped “You flatter me young sir. I nearly gave you the tools which you could educate yourself with”.
Knowing that his son would now work together with him made James smile, but he had to realise for what he came up north. “Your letter spoke of some urgent matters that you had to discuss, Your Excellence? I made my way up here, while I should be travelling to Rome. Tell me what is it that burdens you?”
Taking a sterner tone the Bishop curtly asked Robert to prepare his bags then turned to face James. “My good sir I am disturbed by the nature of the court at the moment. We are friends I hope so I wish you to keep my worries a secret. Will you agree to this?”
James saw the position the Bishop was in. Chaffinch had been discredited by his acceptance of the annulment of Bourchiers marriage. James himself allthough had just won a great victory in the Assembly by changing his rivals warplans. He was in a better position then the clergyman, but his curioisity won over him: “Yes your Excellence, your secrets will be safe with me.”
“Thank you. Now my first issue is that of Warpole he is to rash to act and that is coming from a man who challenged the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury. I believe we must curtail his influence over the queen if England is to be preserved. Do you agree?”
“As you might know, Walpole is one of my oldest enemies. Everything that lowers his influence at court is to my benefit. So yes, I agree.”
“I have a proposition then. As we are both part of the diplomatic core I suggest we create an issue in Ireland in which our vassal may declare independence if Warpole is not handed over to them. If we do this while the army is in Scotland and France it would be easier for the Queen to hand him over rather than fight on another front would it not?”
James wasn’t quite sure what Chaffinch was suggesting here, handing over a Count, helping a Vassal of the crown to declare independence? This was borderline treason and James knew that he didn’t want to be part of this. “Well, your excellence, creating an issue to make a vassal of the Queen declare independence would be a quite hard thing to accomplish, especially as I have tried very hard to get this vassal. Walpole will fight in the upcoming war and we might just hope that he gets injured or killed in the midst of the battle. The more productive way to lower his influence could be to bring his son on our side. The two are seperated at the moment and we might be able to make this work in our favor.”
The bishop nearly burst into laughter after James mentioned turning sons against fathers the irony was hilarious to him. “That is indeed a good plan but we must somehow get Walpole to either give us access to his son or not realise we are manipulating him. Any idea how?”
“We don’t have to convince John Walpole to give us his son, but the mother. She was it who send the young man away and she might be the easier target.”
“I agree. Now this may shock you but I believe we could do this well. Walpole is often away from home and will continue to be during war time. As such his wife will be alone and therefore vulnerable to the charms of young men. A young man such as Robert perhaps?”
WHAT DID HE JUST SAY? James thought he had missunderstood the Bishop, using his son to seduce a countess?
Upon seeing the look on James’ face the bishop said. “But never mind all that until war is declared. Let me move on to my next issue. That of the drunkard in charge of the Lords church. He is a disgrace to his holy name.”
“I see where you are coming from. But the church invests the bishops, the Queen only gives their consent. I can try to influence the Pope on my journey there to not give Canterbury but anotherone the sufragan title over the holy church of England. You are at the moment, to be frank, a Bishop that has to stay quiet until the anger over your missteps has lifted.”
“I would be most thankful if you did this and I understand that I am not the most attractive choice this is why I propose we recruit and appreciative for the both of us to teach how to play the game and also learn how to negotiate and conduct ceremony. We should acquire him from the clergy and train him in all matters diplomatic. We could then push for him to take over from Cantebury.”
“I try to do what I can, what is your last problem, Bishop?”
“It connects to my former point on an apprentice and my recently dismissed act in parliament. It appears that I have sired a son…”
James smiled knowingly, here was why the Bishop had send for him. “That a law forbids the clergy to marry and become fathers has never stopped them to do so. Most of them hid it very well and I see that you are now in dire need to do so as well. I for one am not a very pious man, I see not the huge problem in men fathering children, but the holy church might. Keep your parenthood secret and there might be no big problem.”
“I'm glad to see you don't fall for this religious non envy either good ser. I also understand the need for my son to remain a secret but I do want him to live a good life this is why I ask your favour. I ask that you could educate him and take him with you on your journey to Rome. I have prepared the necessary documents for him to live his life as your grandson if you would accept him?”
James had to think about this. A child on a journey to Rome? This could be quite dangerous for such a young kid, maybe it would be better to bring him home to London, his wife and daughter might be better able to care for the Bishops son. James realised now that he accepted Chaffinch’s proposal without thinking, the only problems he saw where on how to do it, not if. “What is the young boys name? And how old is he? Of course I will care for your son in your stead. But let me suggest to send him to London to my family where he will be safer then on the long journey to Rome.”
“I thank you wholeheartedly sir. Please take him anywhere he will be safe and educated. His name is Alexander after a family friend and he is now 21 months of age. Your own son and him have developed a strong bond which is why I asked for you”
“I will then anchor at London on my way to Rome and give the child to my wife for the time I and my son are at the papal court. When I return I will educate him to become a good man with a diplomatic mind as myself.” James stood up “I now have to bid your fare well, your Excellence, a long journey awaits.”
“Allow me to accompany to my personal ship you will find it ready to take you to Italy with your son and mine. You may use it freely as a token of my thanks.”
With that the two men and their sons headed down to the docks and departed from one another both now with plans and schemes on their minds.
((This post was created together with @Cheffy, everything form his characters perspective is written in bold))
James of Huntingdon arrived at Bishop Chaffinchs Residency in Newcastle. He was eager to see his son again.
Chaffinch answered the door himself as he was eager to discuss. He asked James to follow him to his study.
As James followed the Bishop through his home he realised how much the young man wanted to show his position he got himself. The rooms where ornamented with rich tapestries and a large library filled his working room.
Realising his guest was curious about his possessions Frederick stated “ I have always been eager to remind myself how far I've come since returning here. Your son showed the same interest as you do now.”
Nodding James let himself down in one of the chairs in front of the Bishops desks. “I thank you for your hospility, but can I see my son now?”
“Robert! Your father has come to collect you!”. The bishop shouted in Russian a language that Chaffinch had been teaching the young lad.
The now man grown Robert thundered down the stairs and into the study. “Father ?” He asked.
James couldn’t believe his eyes when he saw his son again. The 17 year old child that he gave Chaffinch on his journey to Rome has grown to a 23 year old man. James stood up to hug his boy. “Robert, it is good to see you again. I hope your time with the Bishop made you learn a lot?”
“Indeed I have.” James’ heir responded “ I have learned much from him”. The Bishop blushed and quipped “You flatter me young sir. I nearly gave you the tools which you could educate yourself with”.
Knowing that his son would now work together with him made James smile, but he had to realise for what he came up north. “Your letter spoke of some urgent matters that you had to discuss, Your Excellence? I made my way up here, while I should be travelling to Rome. Tell me what is it that burdens you?”
Taking a sterner tone the Bishop curtly asked Robert to prepare his bags then turned to face James. “My good sir I am disturbed by the nature of the court at the moment. We are friends I hope so I wish you to keep my worries a secret. Will you agree to this?”
James saw the position the Bishop was in. Chaffinch had been discredited by his acceptance of the annulment of Bourchiers marriage. James himself allthough had just won a great victory in the Assembly by changing his rivals warplans. He was in a better position then the clergyman, but his curioisity won over him: “Yes your Excellence, your secrets will be safe with me.”
“Thank you. Now my first issue is that of Warpole he is to rash to act and that is coming from a man who challenged the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury. I believe we must curtail his influence over the queen if England is to be preserved. Do you agree?”
“As you might know, Walpole is one of my oldest enemies. Everything that lowers his influence at court is to my benefit. So yes, I agree.”
“I have a proposition then. As we are both part of the diplomatic core I suggest we create an issue in Ireland in which our vassal may declare independence if Warpole is not handed over to them. If we do this while the army is in Scotland and France it would be easier for the Queen to hand him over rather than fight on another front would it not?”
James wasn’t quite sure what Chaffinch was suggesting here, handing over a Count, helping a Vassal of the crown to declare independence? This was borderline treason and James knew that he didn’t want to be part of this. “Well, your excellence, creating an issue to make a vassal of the Queen declare independence would be a quite hard thing to accomplish, especially as I have tried very hard to get this vassal. Walpole will fight in the upcoming war and we might just hope that he gets injured or killed in the midst of the battle. The more productive way to lower his influence could be to bring his son on our side. The two are seperated at the moment and we might be able to make this work in our favor.”
The bishop nearly burst into laughter after James mentioned turning sons against fathers the irony was hilarious to him. “That is indeed a good plan but we must somehow get Walpole to either give us access to his son or not realise we are manipulating him. Any idea how?”
“We don’t have to convince John Walpole to give us his son, but the mother. She was it who send the young man away and she might be the easier target.”
“I agree. Now this may shock you but I believe we could do this well. Walpole is often away from home and will continue to be during war time. As such his wife will be alone and therefore vulnerable to the charms of young men. A young man such as Robert perhaps?”
WHAT DID HE JUST SAY? James thought he had missunderstood the Bishop, using his son to seduce a countess?
Upon seeing the look on James’ face the bishop said. “But never mind all that until war is declared. Let me move on to my next issue. That of the drunkard in charge of the Lords church. He is a disgrace to his holy name.”
“I see where you are coming from. But the church invests the bishops, the Queen only gives their consent. I can try to influence the Pope on my journey there to not give Canterbury but anotherone the sufragan title over the holy church of England. You are at the moment, to be frank, a Bishop that has to stay quiet until the anger over your missteps has lifted.”
“I would be most thankful if you did this and I understand that I am not the most attractive choice this is why I propose we recruit and appreciative for the both of us to teach how to play the game and also learn how to negotiate and conduct ceremony. We should acquire him from the clergy and train him in all matters diplomatic. We could then push for him to take over from Cantebury.”
“I try to do what I can, what is your last problem, Bishop?”
“It connects to my former point on an apprentice and my recently dismissed act in parliament. It appears that I have sired a son…”
James smiled knowingly, here was why the Bishop had send for him. “That a law forbids the clergy to marry and become fathers has never stopped them to do so. Most of them hid it very well and I see that you are now in dire need to do so as well. I for one am not a very pious man, I see not the huge problem in men fathering children, but the holy church might. Keep your parenthood secret and there might be no big problem.”
“I'm glad to see you don't fall for this religious non envy either good ser. I also understand the need for my son to remain a secret but I do want him to live a good life this is why I ask your favour. I ask that you could educate him and take him with you on your journey to Rome. I have prepared the necessary documents for him to live his life as your grandson if you would accept him?”
James had to think about this. A child on a journey to Rome? This could be quite dangerous for such a young kid, maybe it would be better to bring him home to London, his wife and daughter might be better able to care for the Bishops son. James realised now that he accepted Chaffinch’s proposal without thinking, the only problems he saw where on how to do it, not if. “What is the young boys name? And how old is he? Of course I will care for your son in your stead. But let me suggest to send him to London to my family where he will be safer then on the long journey to Rome.”
“I thank you wholeheartedly sir. Please take him anywhere he will be safe and educated. His name is Alexander after a family friend and he is now 21 months of age. Your own son and him have developed a strong bond which is why I asked for you”
“I will then anchor at London on my way to Rome and give the child to my wife for the time I and my son are at the papal court. When I return I will educate him to become a good man with a diplomatic mind as myself.” James stood up “I now have to bid your fare well, your Excellence, a long journey awaits.”
“Allow me to accompany to my personal ship you will find it ready to take you to Italy with your son and mine. You may use it freely as a token of my thanks.”
With that the two men and their sons headed down to the docks and departed from one another both now with plans and schemes on their minds.
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