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Funny Statue. Poor Minotaur...beaten by a naked human.:) Hmm Greeks and British Woad-raiders.

Btw, I think that 260 towards the Soviets? is basically forget-it. Not positive but that seems a gulf and I always gave up.
Yes, at least in the latest update we saw our troops put those morale-boosting Minotaur leaflets to good use in Crete :D. And the guy does have a sword ;).

Re Comintern: I reckon at say average net drift of around 8 a month for a while (even with the occasional Axis diplomatic intervention), that's about 26 months to 50. It's only June 1937 now; still on track for around the end of 1939 or early 1940 I reckon. Should be OK. Just need to 'stay the course'. I hope :cool:!
 
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Re Comintern: I reckon at say average net drift of around 8 a month for a while (even with the occasional Axis diplomatic intervention), that's about 26 months to 50. It's only June 1937 now; still on track for around the end of 1939 or early 1940 I reckon. Should be OK. Just need to 'stay the course'. I hope :cool:!
Well that's good news. then you'll be able to continue on your Doom...er...I mean...path...path to victory.:D
 
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Well that's good news. then you'll be able to continue on your Doom...er...I mean...path...path to victory.:D
You could well be right :D. It will either be a path to unexpected glory, or off a steep cliff :oops:. In which case I will put a couple of brigades of Lemmings onto the production queue straight away :).

In Uncle Joe we trust!
 
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Nice work, especially one Crete.

Have you thought about copying over a few Bulgarian and Greek Commanders that might be willing to work with the new regime? seeing as you don't seem to be able to get any more.
 
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Nice work, especially one Crete.

Have you thought about copying over a few Bulgarian and Greek Commanders that might be willing to work with the new regime? seeing as you don't seem to be able to get any more.
Re Crete: thanks. The next few days should be decisive.

Re the leaders: nice idea, might have tried it if just playing myself, and it has some plausible logic, but as an AAR game where I pledged to myself (and my dear readers) I'd try to not mod the game (did have to do it once re neutrality), I will grin and bear it. More will come in at the beginning of each year, so I will be patient and take it as a reasonable restraint on overblown ambitions for a minor power :oops:
 
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Chapter 22: War with Greece #9 – “Antici…….pation!” (6 to 29 June 1937)
Chapter 22: War with Greece #9 – “Antici…….pation!” (6 to 29 June 1937)

I have split this report into parts, to take events in three main areas of operations by turn, partly to be able to compress a lot of action – and waiting – into a single update. When things get more complicated and larger in scale later in the game, such discipline will have to be applied to get through the game in a reasonable period. But while the wars are small, intense and mano-e-mano, I thought it nice to concentrate on them in some detail, explaining many of my tactical, operational and strategic choices (and before I’d seen what the results would be, so I can match my expectations against the outcomes).

The events, although they overlap in time, are in broad sequence and each sticks to the internal chronological order I’ve been using for the wartime 'battle diaries'.


Part One – Mesolongi

8 Jun 37 (D+44)


0200. Our previous update finished on the evening of 6 June, with the last of the four victories in five hours that “shook the Greeks”. Karabekir’s men have had some time to dig in and recuperate over a day and a bit, but not much. Organisation remains dangerously low. Earlier reports had suggested the Greeks may be in the process of a general withdrawal to the north-west across the front, towards the port of Kerkyra, where we assume they are getting supplies shipped from the new capital of Corinth. Surely the Greeks know by now they are beaten and resistance is futile? Apparently not! The Greek 4th Div under Markou launches a surprise night attack, during a storm! After just three hours, the Greek attack looks to be well contained and failing. By 0800 it is over, with no losses to the gallant 3 Inf Div (apart from yet another night’s sleep ruined by an inconsiderate enemy). A fifth victory in Mesolongi, hopefully the last.

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9 Jun 37 (D+45)

0500. Our third new artillery brigade is produced. In recognition of their recent efforts and being at the end of a long line of defence in mainland Greece, it is delivered directly to 3 Inf Div in Mesolongi. It will take a while to come up to organisational strength, but hopefully it will help them hold. Later that morning, word reaches Karabekir that reports of a full Greek withdrawal were clearly dead wrong. They have attacked Amfissa to the east in significant strength, which risks the 3rd being cut off. But for now, Karabekir stays put, hoping Amfissa holds strong (a Greek attack there had been anticipated some days back, and reinforcements are en route there from further north). But, as he surveys the enemy front at first light, he looks at the latest aerial recon report and asks his intel officer “What are those other two Greek infantry divisions doing lurking over the river in Astakos?” “I don’t know sir”, comes the reply. “Well find out then!” barks Karabekir, who is famed for only liking surprises he springs on others.

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11 Jun 37 (D+47)

1100. Two days later, the answer is clear: they were working up enough courage to attack! The Greek 4th and 8th Divs combine this time. The Turkish 3rd defends all day, but their organisation is too low, there is heavy fighting in Amfissa to their east and the war will be won elsewhere (on Crete, where things seem to be going well and an early victory is on the cards). Why continue to fight and die for this mangy patch of Greek soil, which will be ruled by Turkey soon enough anyway? Karabekir orders the withdrawal to Amfissa while they still have the option to do so voluntarily, to preserve lives and ensure they are not trapped and cut off should things go badly in Amfissa.

2300. 3 Inf Div successfully breaks contact in the middle of the night. Sixth time unlucky in Mesolongi, but their job is done. We just need to hold Amfissa and Athina until Irakleio can be taken to end the war.

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Part Two – The Battle for Amfissa

9 Jun 37 (D+45)


1000. The full-strength Greek 13th Div in Gardiki attacks Wehib Pasha’s 1 Cav Div, which is currently holding Amfissa to preserve the supply lines west to Mesolongi where the 3 Inf Div gallantly holds out, and to Athina, to the south-east. They have had three days now to dig in, which should help their defence. 3 Cav Div was ordered south from Trikala after the victory in Lamia three days ago, to cover just such an eventuality, but are still some way off.

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1300. The Greek 7th Div (also full-strength) joins the attack, remaining in reserve for now. This brings the odds up to 43%: still in our favour, but getting more serious, especially if the Greek 7th Div reinforces before our own relief columns arrive. HQ 2nd Corps seeks urgent advice from 3 Cav Div’s acting commander: “When can you get to Amfissa?” The reply: “By about 1900 tomorrow”. It will have to do.

10 Jun 37 (D+46)

2000. 3 Cav Div arrive, pretty much on time. The Greek 7th hasn’t reinforced yet and the arrival of 3 Cav improves the odds a little (to 35% in our favour). 1 Cav Div are holding on well. The fighting continues.

11 Jun 37 (D+47)

0900. The Greek 7th Div finally reinforces in the combat. While this doesn’t change the odds much (now 37%), it is dangerous, as the attrition on 1 Cav Div will now increase and 3 Cav remain in reserve.

12 Jun 37 (D+48)

0700. 1 Cav Div continues to fight on alone. They are starting to lose organisation, but Wehib Pasha uses a detachment of cavalry and armoured cars to flank the assault and negate the Greek’s attacking bonuses. Huzzah! By now, they have received word that the 3rd is withdrawing from Mesolongi – it is vital Amfissa is held until they can pass back through our lines to safety. The redoubtable 7 Inf Div have recovered enough from their defence of Lamia to be sent as further reinforcements to Amfissa, just in case things get worse. They will arrive tomorrow evening.

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13 Jun 37 (D+49)

1900. 7 Inf Div arrives on time. They too go into reserve, bringing the odds down to 26%. But 1 Cav Div still fights on alone and is losing more organisation. Although the Greek 13th Div looks close to breaking, the 7th remains strong. Things are back to the old “attack vs defend” attrition on the front line.

14 Jun 37 (D+50)

1200. The fighting drags on. Casualties mount. The Greek 13th Div has broken for Gardiki, but their 7th is fresh, and neither of our reserve divisions has been able to reinforce. Another problem with our doctrine we are far off from fixing. 1 Cav Div is getting seriously pounded: despite the odds being 26% still, it could easily go wrong if we can’t reinforce. 3 Inf Div is still on the road back from Mesolongi, desperately hoping their comrades can hold their lifeline open. Air recon of Gardiki shows the Greeks are taking heavy casualties themselves, but they still fight on. As the situation deteriorates, Namut’s now fully reorganised 5 Inf Div is ordered to put in a spoiling attack on Gardiki from Lamia: Inönü hopes this will disrupt the Greek attack, given the inability of our reserve units in Amfissa to reinforce.

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Troops of the Turkish 5 Inf Div prepare for their flanking assault on Gardiki, 14 Jun 37. This
proved to be the turning point of the battle and for land operations on the Greek mainland.

1800. This last tactic seems to have worked! The Greek 7th Div breaks off the attack and retreats back to Gardiki. The spoiling attack by 5 Inf Div is immediately called off. Casualties for the main battle of Amfissa were heavy, with 1 Cav Div bearing the brunt, but they are the proud victors of Amfissa after five days of heavy fighting. Another battle honour for Wehib Pasha and the troops of the 1st Cavalry. 3 Inf Div will be safe!

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Hitay’s Curtiss Hawk III interceptors have been providing ground support harrying the attackers, but are now very low on organisation and are recalled to Athina to recover. The tac bombers, although a little better off from their previous rest, are also recalled, as they will be needed in Crete, where supply problems and difficult terrain have delayed the hoped-for coup de grace.

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The Curtiss Hawk III – the mainstay of Turkey’s only interceptor wing. It will have to do: in Bulgaria
and Greece it has faced no opposition, so has been used for recon and light ground support.

19 Jun 37 (D+55)

0700. The victory in Amfissa seems to have spelled the end of major land operations on the Greek mainland. The general situation is summarised below. 3 Inf Div recuperates in Athens – Cakmak shares the Ouzo with Karabekir (whose skill level has now progressed to 3).

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Part Three – Crete: Operation Minotaur

6 Jun 37 (D+42)


1900. You may recall that the last update finished with Inönü weighing up the decision whether to immediately counter-attack the Greeks in Irakleio (the last Greek VP to be secured for victory) after their failed attack on our 17 Inf Div in Rethymno earlier that afternoon. Given the victories that followed Rethymno on the mainland that evening, and the new Turkish belief in “rapid aggressive warfare” (or RAW), you may not be surprised to discover that Inönü’s order (as the defacto Army Commander in Greece) to Orbay, passed through HQ 2nd Corps, was to “Attack immediately”!

Which they did. If only Turkish doctrine had progressed some way to matching the theory of RAW! But the 17th would do the best they could. Orbay reported the terrain was so tough it could take up to almost four weeks to arrive in Irakleio! What? Not having fought in Crete before, we hadn’t figured on it taking so long. 9 Inf Div had also commenced its landing at Rethymno: High Command was reluctant to stop it now, so have ordered them to continue. They will fully disembark in another two days. The forces in central Greece will need to hold out for some time yet, it seems.

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7 Jun 37 (D+43)

0000. The belief in speed and aggression paid off: Orbay reported victory by midnight. The Greeks were obviously even more exhausted that our troops by the preceding fight, and hadn’t had a chance to recover yet.

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8 Jun 37 (D+44)

2300. 9 Inf Div arrive in Rethymno. They are initially ordered to follow 17 Inf Div to Irakleio, at the latter’s supplies are running low and we are concerned they may run out before they reach their objective. This is later countermanded, as the Greeks are retreating from Irakleio to Tympaki: 2nd Corps HQ wants them headed off – also so they don’t get to Tympaki with their organisation somewhat recovered, then head back to Irakleio before we can secure it.

10 Jun 37 (D+46)

0400. 17 Div now reports their arrival time in Irakleio as 26 June – this figure seems to fluctuate. 9 Inf Div now advances on Tympaki.

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16 Jun 37 (D+52)

0600. 9 Inf Div arrives attacks the Greeks in Tympaki and is soon victorious.

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22 Jun 37 (D+58)

0300. The slow-motion final campaign continues. The troops have begun to refer to it as “Operation Tortoise”. 9 Inf Div arrived in Tympaki and also advances towards Irakleio, but the 17th finally ran out of supplies just four days short and are stuck in Rethymno again. The High Command would be more worried about this situation, except for the fact the continuing war allows us to maintain more efficient (if oppressive) wartime legislation.

But we can’t let this drag on forever. 1st Fleet is ordered to Athens, where it will rendezvous with 3 Cav Div, embark it and attempt to land directly in Irakleio: we are concerned that 9 Div too may run out of supplies.

24 Jun 37 (D+60)

0400. Due to weight restrictions (45 unit weight for 40 transport capacity), 3 Cav Div had to split one brigade off before embarking. They leave with just the two brigades for the Irakleio end run. We hope it will be enough. Back on Crete, 9 Inf Div is now moving on Irakleio, but progress is slow (sthey are upposedly not due to arrive until 5 July) and supplies are running low.

2100. The 1st Fleet completes the short trip from Athens and 3 Cav Div(-) begins to disembark for their assault on Irakleio. They are due to close with the enemy in two days. Meanwhile, 9 Inf Div is still pursuing the Greeks as they retreat back to Irakleio. This is starting to resemble a Marx Brothers sketch!

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26 Jun 37 (D+62)

1500. The attack finally goes in, with 9 Inf and 3 Cav Divs joining combat with the Greek 5th Div, which has been beaten three times already this month, but unfortunately has made it back to Irakleio, with some recovered organisation, in time to again frustrate the Turks who yearn for victory, conquest and a respite from combat.

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Smoke and dust rising into the air as artillery from
the Turkish 9 Inf Div pounds Irakleio, 26 Jun 37.

27 Jun 37 (D+63)

0100. Our tactical bombers have recovered enough to be ordered back into combat: they will have to contend with Irakleio’s air defences. The bad news is 9 Inf Div have run out of supplies and are forced to break from the attack, leaving the under-strength 3 Cav Div to fight the battle out alone. The odds reduce to 65%, but remain in our favour. At the same time, a new garrison brigade becomes available and is placed in Sofiya.

28 Jun 37 (D+64)

0500. The valiant men of 3 Cav, fighting for once dismounted in a completely unaccustomed amphibious role, are victorious! The Minotaur is slain, but has proved tenacious. The end is finally near: the Greek Government is given the traditional “you must surrender by midnight” ultimatum. While finally successful, the Crete campaign has exposed poor Turkish naval landing doctrine and resources, a lack of local topographical knowledge and a few errors of timing by the High Command. In retrospect, they agree they should have halted 9 Inf Div's landing at Rethymno and redirected them straight to Irakleio. This miscalculation may have added weeks to the war. If in years to come Turkey ever again participates in naval landings, however remote that may seem now, these aspects would have to be addressed.

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King George II of Greece formally offered the unconditional surrender of Greece
at midnight on 28 Jun 37, coming into force as 29 June began. He will join what is now
becoming the “ex-Kings of the Balkans Club”, as a guest of the Turkish Republic
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Part Four – Other Matters

29 Jun 37 (D+65) VG Day!


0000. In the first minute of 29 June 1937, after a little over two months of mainly heavy fighting, exciting manouevres, tight contests and valiant victories, and a drawn-out ending, the Greek Government surrenders. The conquest is enforced and Greece ceases to exist as a nation: the Greek Vilayet is declared. Armaments Minister and Supreme Commander Calistar is made Bey of the Greek Vilayet and Governor of Crete, in recognition of his services to wartime morale. Our war-time economic and conscription laws can no longer be maintained, but due to previous legislative advances, they revert to better options than was the case after the end of the Bulgarian War.

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29 Jun 37. On the mainland, long lines of dejected Greek prisoners turn themselves in.

President Atatürk promises there will be a great victory parade in Ankara, the gallant efforts of our armed forces in the two recent wars properly recognised and a major speech on the future of the newly expanded Turkish Republic will be made. For now, the army has not been demobilised, as Cabinet must decide what comes next in the strategic plan and when. Also, the costs and benefits of demobilising must be considered.

Merchant Shipping Report: 11-17 Jun 37

While the war raged on land, and in between naval landings and two battle with the Greek Navy, our sub flotilla and the 1st Fleet raided the seas, to avenge the early losses of our convoys to the Greeks before shipping was suspended. In a week of active operations, we sank four Greek convoys and an escort in the West Aegean and the Sea of Crete. We had lost three convoys earlier in the war.

Coming Up: The next direction for Turkey will be decided. Now very wary neighbours and great powers must be reassured of Turkey’s peaceful intentions from now forward – while we secretly plot for the further expansion of Turkey’s rightful sphere of influence. How long will this period of “shaky peace” last? What other forces will reveal themselves to be in motion around the world?
 
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Good job. The small wars you've won has helped get your generals prepared for the nastier one to come.

Since, Turkey is so officer starved (What? like 2 new officers a year?o_O) it would be nice if you could have received some from the fighting i.e. iirc Older Civ had a "Leader-born" event.:) Oh well, as you said...it is what it is.
 
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How's your threat level now?
 
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Good job. The small wars you've won has helped get your generals prepared for the nastier one to come.

Since, Turkey is so officer starved (What? like 2 new officers a year?o_O) it would be nice if you could have received some from the fighting i.e. iirc Older Civ had a "Leader-born" event.:) Oh well, as you said...it is what it is.
Thanks! :D Re officers, it varies, some years more than others. But as you say and I've implied before, both the leadership and commander shortages I take as part of the handicap for a human player, hence (with a minor) having been happy to keep the settings at 'normal' (also so as not to distort the other AI powers in the game). I'm interested to see how the respective AIs handle the war with me trying to drive the Comintern from the back seat :)
How's your threat level now?
The highest threat to me is Germany, but it's only 1.0. For the European majors and neighbouring minors, I'm (not surprisingly) the highest threat to all of them, but not yet approaching the level of their neutrality:
Ger: My threat to them 10.75; their neutrality 39%
UK: 7.34; 86%
SU: 17.30; 62%
Fra: 8.00; 75%
Ita: 12.72; 47%
Rom: 13.42; 61%
Yugo: 13.55; 61%
Pers: 10.73; 74%
 
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Chapter 23: The Greater Turkish Republic (29 June 1937)
Chapter 23: The Greater Turkish Republic (29 June 1937)

Athens – “VG Day” Parade and Speech

President Atatürk flew into Athens on the afternoon of 29 June.

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After inspecting a victory parade composed of representatives of the units that took part in the valiant conquest of Greece, he made some announcements and presentations to the Armed forces:

Soldiers, sailors and Airmen of Turkey: I salute your valour, persistence and skill in battle! First in Bulgaria and now in Greece, you have shown yourselves to be heroes of the Motherland; and Turkey could never be prouder of its own true sons.

Later today I will present medals to many of your comrades who have distinguished themselves through acts of gallantry and selflessness in battle. But here, I announce special unit awards of battle honours in addition to the campaign honours all participants – units and individuals - have earned in Bulgaria and Greece.

For the Bulgarian War, Unit Battle Honours are granted to the following Divisions:

Battle of Ruse (23 – 26 March 1937): 1 Cav Div.

Battle of Sofiya (26 March – 2 Apil 1937): 1 Inf Div, 3 Inf Div, 5 Inf Div, 1 Mtn Div.

For the Greek War, Unit Battle Honours are granted to the following Divisions:

Battle of Sykia (15 – 21 May 1937): 5 Inf Div.

Battle of Volos (15 – 21 May 1937): 7 Inf Div.

Battle(s) of Mesolongi (26 May – 11 June 1937): 3 Inf Div.

Battle of Rethymno (29 May – 6 June 1937): 17 Inf Div.

Third Battle of Lamia (1 – 6 June 1937): 7 Inf Div, 13 Inf Div.

Battle of Amfissa (9 – 14 June 1937): 1 Cav Div.

Second Battle of Irakleio (26 – 28 June 1937): 3 Cav Div.

Special Campaign Citations for Greece: 1st Tac Bomber Wing and 1st Interceptor Wing.

Special Campaign Citation for Crete: 1st Fleet (constituent Ships).

Later that evening, Atatürk delivers a speech on the occasion of the Victory in Greece, with press reporters and foreign diplomatic representatives present:

Today, with the re-conquest of the Greek Vilayet, I solemnly declare that the ambitions of Turkey to reestablish its historical claims in Europe are satisfied.

The aggression of Bulgaria has been met with a firm but fair hand: citizens of the Vilayet will soon be granted all the rights and freedoms of other citizens of Turkey. Monarchism has been overthrown, even while the security of Turkey has been protected.

In Greece, the wrongs of 1919-21 have finally been set to rights. Never again will Greek aggression threaten the lives and livelihoods of the Turkish people. But we will be just and merciful in our rule. Soon, the people of the Greek Vilayet will also come to be granted the full rights and privileges of Turkish citizenship.

I come now to the central announcement I wish to make tonight: we proclaim the new Greater Republic of Turkey from this day, the 29th of June 1937. May peace reign! Long live Turkey! Long Live the Greater Republic!”

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Some other Random Post-War Statistics

More Battle-Hardened Generals. If you care to, you can have a look back at the beginning of Chapter 5 to see where the state of Army leadership was back before the Bulgarian War. But in summary, Turkey had two L2 generals (Artunkal and Inönü), seven L1s and a L0 (Gürzlin). Two more (an L2 – Muzir - and an L1) came in on 1 Jan 37. Things have improved considerably since then. Not all Rommels yet, but at least significantly better than they were:

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Increased Strategic Weight. We have increased Turkey’s share of controlled VPs from 11 at game start to 18 now (3 from Bulgaria, 4 from Greece).

An enemy ship was sunk. Our flagship TCG Yavuz managed to sink an enemy destroyer flotilla while we weren’t looking! It must have been as the Greek fleet was fleeing Irakleio after we occupied it, shortly before the Greek surrender. Huzzah! We saw the Yavuz suffered a bit of damage doing it, but this might end up being the only ship we ever sink.

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Peace and Plotting

That night, Inönü and Atatürk confer in private. They agree that the War Cabinet, in absolute secrecy, must now assess where the hammer of the Greater Republic will fall next and when.
  • Initial thoughts are that Romania (Case Yellow) would be a feasible target. Having that country out of the Fascist camp (whether by diplomacy or conquest) would push the initial threat away from both us and the Soviets. One option would be to attempt to defeat them but then install a puppet government, perhaps taking advantage of their quite sizeable army (if we can avoid destroying it during a conquest).

  • Taking Yugoslavia (Case Blue) may provide some resources and territorial gains, but would put us very close to Italy and Germany. They would be a tough nut to crack and likely hard/costly to hold against partisan activity, let alone against the Fascists.

  • Albania (Case Red) can be considered, but would be a side show.

  • The only other feasible target would be in Asia: Persia (Case Green). They are ruled by yet another monarch and have been drifting disturbingly close to the Fascists – more of a worry now we are contemplating the creation of a grand anti-Fascist coalition.
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There will be pros and cons for all these options and we may select more than one. Cabinet will look at all this soon. Timings will also be considered and the question of whether to now demobilise (mobilisation in peace carries some financial and diplomatic cost, but keeps our army strong and ready for action).

Meanwhile, a peace initiative will be launched to reassure great powers and neighbours alike that they have nothing to fear from Turkey. Many of them are – quite reasonably – feeling suspicious of us [Ed. See post above for key statistics on threat levels to others]. While this is not necessarily going to lead to any intervention by a great power yet, we must be careful, as a high threat could lead to border stacking against us (a problem if we intend to attack that country) and have unforeseen consequences among more powerful supporters. Although we are gradually aligning to them, the Soviets in particular feel threatened by us (the highest level of threat among all our neighbours, and the highest assessed threat by the Soviets of any country). We don’t want anything derailing our push to join the Comintern or to arouse suspicions further among the Allies or the Fascists, so we will have to keep a careful eye on this.

Inönü suggests inviting key foreign opinion-shapers, using Atatürk’s great international standing and the wonders and beauty of Istanbul, to persuade them of our peaceful intentions now our European doorstep has been secured. This will give us time to plan and prepare for our next adventure.

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Production and Research

Consumer goods are of course now taking up far more capacity again and it will take a long time to improve laws further in that regard, given we have only just passed the 60 NU threshold recently. All convoys have been resumed and we will need to revisit our resource and trade balance once things settle a bit after the end of the war. Upgrades and reinforcement requirements remain high, but these should moderate somewhat in coming weeks. That, together with the finish of our next artillery brigade in July, should allow us to start adding to our queue again with some new projects.

Some IC will need to be used for fortification construction along the proposed “Calistar Line”, defending Istanbul and the Dardanelles. We will also try to keep producing artillery units to bolster our infantry divisions, but the starting of another may have to wait for some months. Any other longer term needs will be determined after the Cabinet decides on the question of “where to next, and when”.

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Research capacity remains a problem for us. We will continue to grow our officer corps, but may have trouble just keeping up with demand from new units. Some important military equipment research is in the pipeline and will keep the need for upgrades rolling, but the next major task is to start improving key land doctrines, in particular. This will remain a slow and painful process.

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Coming Up: Cabinet considers the next “potential aggressor” against Turkey that must be pre-emptively dealt with. Always remember: attack is the best form of defence, while surprise is the most important element of attack. So the best idea is to attack your enemy before he even thinks of attacking you!

Ed note: Any comments or suggestions about the pros and cons of the four options to be considered by Cabinet would be more than welcome. This will be the last update for a week or more as I have a family visit from inter-state, a cricket semi-final to play tomorrow :D, then some overseas travel for work :cool:. But while I won’t be doing game updates during that time, I will be checking the forums and will be able to respond to posts in between these exciting real-life events ;).
 
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I cannot tell for sure but I think I may have failed to mention something, Looking back through the AAR, I don't see your Corps HQs commanding troops? You did do that correct?

Just in case...If not...assign three divisions to all HQs except the Theater and that will soften your officer-shortage plus all of your HQ Generals will advance in skills much faster because they're fighting too. If you think on it, having an AG moving along with your Army really helps keep every unit in Radio-Contact.
 
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Thanks - yes, I never showed shots during the two wars with command lines but all along, the two corps HQs have had five divisions assigned to each (ie the max allowable). The wars have been small enough that I haven't needed army or army group HQs yet for radio range purposes, though it would have been nice for the cascading bonuses. I had so few it was a choice between front line div commanders and the HQs further back (see part way down in Chap 5 for the corps command layouts).

When I get a few more officers I may try to raise them. But thanks for raising it: always pays to check. ;)
 
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Thanks - yes, I never showed shots during the two wars with command lines but all along, the two corps HQs have had five divisions assigned to each (ie the max allowable). The wars have been small enough that I haven't needed army or army group HQs yet for radio range purposes, though it would have been nice for the cascading bonuses.
When I get a few more officers I may try to raise them. But thanks for raising it: always pays to check. ;)

What I meant was actually having your Corps-HQs assigned 3 Brigades (MAX) of troops?

You'll need to skip Army-level but do a test in a bit and once you have say...a skill-3? Make him the AG and check your supply need before and after the test. Might save you a little IC. I'm hurting like hell this morning, so if I'm being brain-dead than kindly disregard.:)
 
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Ah, thanks for clarifying. In the games I've played so far I've rarely used the HQs to park support brigades. Mainly because I haven't had such a lack of leaders, but also because I generally want the units in frontline divisions.

But I can see that in a situation like mine with Turkey in could be of some use. I'm still trying to fill the inf divs up - mainly with artillery for now - but later on the HQs could be useful for deploying some aa and at for defending against the coming blitzkrieg.

Have you found buffing the HQs to be effective? Any thoughts on which kind of units and combinations work best? This is an aspect I'm still very newbie about :). I believe (but could be wrong) that you can't assign combat brigades to HQs, for example.

Re the AG and full command structure: I could try that while the army re-orgs between wars. I usually like to have that complete orbat in place from the get go.

Thanks both for your interest and suggestions: one of the good things about running an AAR when you're trying to progress from recruit to veteran level ;). I do hope you're feeling a bit better by now:)
 
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Give your Infantry Corps HQ's 3 INF-brigades, so they can fight too and those troops have a general. <imo> Support units need to go to the Divisions in the same Corps. Because the HQ is a brigade you can only add 3 more to make a fighting-division out of the Corps HQ and it's nice have those better commanders on the line and not behind it. Also, this takes care of the HQ arriving ahead of unit's under its command because the speed is the same.

As far as other make-ups, I pretty much keep the Corps HQ whatever they command. i.e. Rommel gets ARM/MOT/MOT so does Patton.
 
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Ok, thanks for that, I will give it a try. I'm sure there must be a special command, because the 'merge or combine units' icons never seem to give the option for HQs :confused:. Though until now I've never really looked for it. ;) I will give it a google.
 
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You select the two units, then press the "R" key for reorganising and the "G" key for merging. I have faced the same problem and looked it up, though I had to look up the exact keys, just to be sure I gave you true information.;) As far as I recall, that's what you have to do.:)
 
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You select the two units, then press the "R" key for reorganising and the "G" key for merging. I have faced the same problem and looked it up, though I had to look up the exact keys, just to be sure I gave you true information.;) As far as I recall, that's what you have to do.:)
thanks to both markkur and Macke11 for the tips. I'm sure that will work - must be one of those little in-game anomalies o_O. I've never used keyboard commands either: I'm probably missing out some other helpful little shortcuts as well: will have to look the subject up on the forum.
 
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May I recommend this site, which I used to find the shortcuts.:)
 
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For the new target I would have to go with Romania, Persia is going to be hard to defend after you defeat the fascists and have to take on the decadent west!

Also will you delay your pact with the Soviets till closer to '41 or as soon as you can?
 
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