Snowfall patch notes (1.3.0) & release information

good news indeed ... the rest looks good as well, thanks Moo

 

@TotalyMoo Just wanted to make it really really clear for all the flamethrower of hatred that roamed this forum the past few months.

We will miss you, Mr Moomoo.

 

I will miss you

Awesome. That will make the styles system usable at last!

 

@Escher do we have any improvements/additions to the asset editor?? or even info about what we can edit from snowfall?

 

I can read though. And most of it wasn't hatred - it was maybe impatience because of the sparse communication.
And still - I'm not impressed by the patch list. Besides this obvious bug with tourism there is nothing gameplay and simulation related that was adressed. Nothing. This either shows the lack of interest or the inability to work on those issues. But hey, it's as it is. So far it looks like CO's priorities or skills are what we suspected - no reason for hate but a disappointment to many of us in the more ambitious part of the community. All the hope remains on the modders and the future.

 

Some tourism issues are affected by agent limits which will not be 'fixed' because the limits are intentional. (Also simulation quirks like going to school at night isn't addressed either, that's probably working as intended as well)

 

I love almost everything you will deliver with this patch, but I had high hopes that there could be more

For example:
- Schools are still open during night
- Hearses and ambulances are still stupid
- There is no button to move the day&night sliders at the same time
- There are no finance-related balance tweaks

And also, separate winter theme sucks. Hopefully modders will come and save the day with a seasons mod.

PS. We will miss you TotalyMoo!

 

Everything lovely, but i see in the patch list that there is no word about tunnels in the map editor. It will be again forgotten?

 

Thanks for the heads up about the timing and again best of luck to you in your new endeavors.

 

It's not that easy. That would require quite a few changes.

 

Nah.

- Yes, schools and commercial areas are open during night, but imagine they would not in the vanilla game: As the day / night cycle is kinda fast barely any cims would arrive at school, so no workers would be created on a "normal" way (yes, I know, the engine would simply skip school and force the cims to be workers). Only slowing down the cycle would make sense in addition to this

- I don't think they are "stupid", but again I think the time system is the thing that causes havoc. If cims would not live the same lenght and would grow older with way less speed you would not have so many people dying while the hearse travels to it's initial destination (10 deaths during a 1 minute drive is kinda heavy). That's also the reason a hearse can hold unrealistic 10 bodies instead of one as it's the only way to keep it controllable at some point. Ambulances... well, I don't see them often in my cities, only when something is too loud, but as I stated in another thread I'd like to see that people die in an hospital and get ill before. Only few people die at home or in an commercial area.

- How often do you adjust both values? I'm fine with that. I think that's a really low priority for most people

- I think that the tourism fix is also a kind of finance-related fix / tweak.

Also I'm sure some modder *cough boformer cough BloodyPenguin cough PropaneDragon cough* will be able to do seasons by time

Still important is that those modders got the base to do so - without the addition of snow, rain and temperatures to the main game it would be a pain of work to create such mods.

 

Does the snow dump fill up until it is full or does the snow decay?

 

I am not sure about that cause of this discussion on Reddit:

slurpherp 9 months ago

Hey /u/TotalyMoo or /u/co_martsu , the tunnels don't work in the map editor, anyway there could be a hotfix for this?


[–]AzurespecterParadox 9 months ago
I'll bring this point up to CO. It may have just been a small oversight, hopefully it can be hotfixed easily.

[–]TotalyMooParadox 9 months ago
Correct, it's an unfortunate oversight on our end. I'll see what can be done.

And this on on this forum:

Hrnsk: I just noticed you can't create tunnels in the map editor. I tried to recreate New York City, and when i wanted to insert the Holland Tunnel i could't place the road underground.

Azu: Yep, this was a minor oversight when tunnels were implemented. We'd like to get this fixed though, but for now you'll just have to make them in-game. Sorry about that!

 

Thanks for the patchnotes. Sadly you adressed only 2 things out of this list - do we get any info about the other issues?

 

We are waiting for!
Russian translate is here: http://transport-games.ru/index.php...s/cities-skylines/patchnout-130-snowfall-r163

 

Why don't you just add its functionality into the game? Clearly it's something people really need.

 

Hah, you probably put that close to the end to make sure that we read everything . Looking good, as that was the only serious bug I encountered.

Good luck for your future endeavors! Enjoy Singapore.