CK2 Dev Diary #61: The Dragon Throne

This seems like the best way to handle China without adding tonnes of new features which would require years and years of balancing! Glad to see it

 

Wow, interesting idea... Will China be able to launch invasions too, like the Mongols - Or is the plan that they are just a buffer to the east?

EDIT - And how are the forces of China decided? Will they always be a major power, or will their forces reflect upon the defending realm size?

 

Such a beautiful sight....

 

Will there be events for the mongol emperors to "conquer" China and found the Yuan dynasty?

 

Awesome!

 

So China without The China. I'm just gonna wait for how will this shape up before making a comment.

 

Will random events in China affect the map? Invasions mechanics like Mongols?

 

While I'd personally prefer an actual China (with the caveats that it should be reasonably accurate, not kill performance, and fun to play), being able to interact with an off-map China is better than having no interaction with China save through rare events.

How will this mechanic work with the Mongols (or another hypothetical emperor holding land on the map itself)? Will it only mean that China will be perpetually happy with the on-map emperor, or will you get some special benefits?

It is possible to have multiple off-map entities, or just the one? For example, could we mod in the Aztec Empire's homeland while keeping China, or would we have to choose one?

 

And the plague of special interfaces from EU4 has reached ck2... Can this please be a game rule?

Oh and I disliked, you either add china or you don't, I thought the ck2 team were better than this crap.

You know what I wouldn't mind so much if the emperor of china was simply a character holding a title with a capital of screen but why a special interface? the character interactions menu could have handled it, and a freaking button on the minimap?

Honestly you saw the interface bloat of eu4 and thought: "We should do that too"?

Edit: That said I enjoyed the joke "Kejsaren av Kina tycker inte om te" (The emperor of china does not like tea, it's a children game/pun), does that game even exist outside of sweden? But basing a mechanic on a joke is not a respectful way of treating an ancient culture.

 

Will the state of China carry over to EUIV when using the converter?
Also (because it is obligatory):

 

That's a very good compromise!

 

Love it, will we be able to damage or severely limit the Chinese empire or even put a puppet emperor on the throne?

 

The hat of the emperor looks kinda weird, but otherwise love that China is finally included in the game on some capacity.
Is it possible to play as the Chinese western expedition ?

 

HRRRRNG. The Western Protectorate play through is here!

 

That's great!

However, I have another suggestion:

In fact, "Daizong" is just his posthumous title (yes, that means nobody knows who is "Daizong" when he is still alive!). His real name is Li Yu (李豫).

 

While I wholeheartedly agree with that I'm guessing the game's naming system might not be able to handle the intricacies of Chinese naming conventions with ease... Look at the mess with Temüjin! But here's hoping!

 

So... can dynasties change? Currently the Tang dynasty is ruling, how will it change? Can the mongols conquere China? Can other player empires conquere China?

 

Pretty nice!

How moddable will this feature be? Will we be able to add new titles accessible through such an interface? Is it possible to add other conditions than diplomatic range for interacting with China?