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CK2 DD#35: Who ordered these Monks?

Discussion in 'Crusader Kings II' started by Darkrenown, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. Darkrenown

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    Hello again, everyone! Doomdark was going to tell you more about Societies this week, but he’s locked in the dungeon too busy, so I have seized power taken on this duty. So let’s talk about Monks.

    In Monks and Mystics, we have added 8 Monastic Order Societies. There are two Catholic orders, the Benedictines and the Dominicans, while the Orthodox, Miaphysites, Nestorians, Hindus, Buddhists, and Jains each have their own order. Now, while actual Monks and Priests can of course join these Societies and are likely to advance more quickly through the ranks, it’s quite possible for secular characters to join these orders as lay members / patrons and reach the highest ranks.
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    Life in the Monastic orders is focused on learning, piety, and good deeds. Typically members will be expected to use the Theology focus (if you have the Way of Life expansion), perform Charity, help build new Temples, go on Pilgrimages, and engage in prayer or meditation.
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    Time spent in self-reflection does have its upsides though; through these acts characters will tend to better themselves, losing negative traits like vices and gaining more godly virtues. Not to mention that time spent reading and then debating the meaning of books is helpful in increasing Learning and Diplomacy skills. At the highest levels, members can also counsel other characters in their realm, to encourage them to end their sinful ways.

    Dominicans: Religious province conversion significantly faster, and a bonus to the “Hunt Heretics” counciler job.
    Benedictines: Can get rid of “Slothful” and gain “Diligent” by donating money.
    Hindus: Higher Fertility and Health.
    Buddhists: revolt risk reduction.
    Jains: opinion bonus with other Jains.
    Miaphysites, Orthodox and Nestorians: More income from Temple vassals.
    All: Chance of losing many negative traits and gaining positive ones over time.

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    new dharmic pilgrimage chain

    That's all for now, and indeed that'll all the DDs for this year as we'll be on holiday for the next couple of weeks! But we'll be back on the 9th of January to talk about more Societies. And if you need to hear more about MnM, I believe we'll be showing some gameplay in our Three Kings stream in under an hour (1700 CET)
    Here's a link to the Youtube of the stream:
     
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  2. Mees Henneken

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    Ayyyyy this expansion is looking awesome, will be watching the stream!
     
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  3. Zhetone

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    I hope these are well fleshed out, it would be nice to have added flavor for once to religions which goes deep. Also still no word on whether we can become monks or priests or whatever. I mean, I'm doubting it considering it hasn't been mentioned, but I can still hope
     
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  4. Kenlin

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    Interesting. So there won't be a monastery holding slot/trade post equivalent, then?

    Psst, should be counsel, non?
     
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  5. King Anund

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    No Franciscans?o_O What a shame:(
     
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  6. Asiak

    Asiak Please no a-historic de-jure empires in CKIII
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    All the hype, here's hoping it isn't just them.
     
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  7. tywinzo

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    Looks awesome!

    Can we mod in Fransiscans ourselves?
     
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  8. elpibeuruguayo

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    New portraits?
     
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  9. erkkijuusto

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    Weren't the dominicans founded in the 13th century? It would be odd to see dominicans in the 9th century. Is there a formation event for new societies or can new societies even be formed through events?
     
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  10. Castorem

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    Damn, those portraits look good. What are those? New western european ones?
     
  11. sreckom92

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    How do you choose between those two Catholic orders?
     
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  12. Zhetone

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    I didn't even notice the portraits honestly. Hopefully it means less neckbeards and caterpillar mustaches
     
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    Given your ability to become patron, mods could make this for bardic orders/families or hereditary physician families.
     
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    I take it those are Iberian portraits. Could be wrong...
    Skin tone is lighter though.
    I don't want to get hyped if it's not new! :D
     
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  15. aesthete Second Lieutenant
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    Looks awesome! Why no Muslim societies, though?
     
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    Shaolin Kings confirmed.
     
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    NEW PORTRAITS!
    No names though, only the coat of arms... does anyone recognize that CoA so that we can pinpoint where the new portraits apply?

    We've seen the vanilla portraits being used in other Dev Diaries, so I don't think it's revemped Western Euros.

    I initially thought we'd see Berbers, now I'm really not sure...
     
  18. elpibeuruguayo

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    Perhaps they are italians? The dude in the picture is the duke of Apulia.
     
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    That would not be fun, tool-tip would say something like: "By joining Franciscan order you abdicate as a ruler and give away all your wealth to the poor." Like suicide, but your heir does not inherit any money.
     
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    Could be a valid decision in dire circumstances though.
     
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