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Mr Parris Marr
c/o Foreign Office
Whitehall
The Earl of Scarsdale
c/o House of Lords
Westminster

5th February, 1956

Dear Mr. Marr,

While I understand the good intentions of your proposal regarding life peerages, the simple fact is that the House of Lords has always operated as an institution built largely around hereditary succession of office. This has the significant benefit of removing a great deal of partisanship from this body, creating an atmosphere of cooperation - quite different from the House of Commons, although I am certain you could espouse many more stories of partisanship within that chamber - and mutual respect. Thus, my qualms with life peerages are twofold.

The first of these points about the traditions of the body may seem a relatively weak argument in the modern era, but it holds significantly more weight once it is considered that the House of Lords is an institution with relatively little authority over British affairs beyond the postponement of legislation and the power to make decisions as to its own composition. Perhaps an argument could be made for changing the historical composition of this body by the addition of non-hereditary seats were this body given genuine legislative authority, however, it does not, and likely never will again. As the body's existence at this point seems to primarily be a function of history - of course Law Lords prove somewhat of an exception, although, for all intents and purposes, they would be just as effective as a separate body - it seems natural that its historical composition should be retained.

The second argument against life peerages that I will raise is that of partisanship. The House of Lords is largely a non-partisan body composed of individuals who have often had access to Britain's finest educational opportunities, have distinguished careers, and, in other cases, have performed a great duty to this country of such scale that the Crown has seen fit to award them a hereditary title. By giving the Prime Minister such authority in appointing lesser peers, the legitimacy of this body will be reduced by the presence of political appointees added not out of a great service to their nation, but to a political party. As it stands, granting a hereditary title to a citizen of this nation is often a reflective challenge. Life peerages will, quite simply, create members of the House of Lords who are not present for service or a hereditary obligation, but instead were given a throwaway title from a committee that was ready to call it a day and did not consider in depth the possible implications of their decision beyond the elimination of delays from the Peers.

Therefore, I can not endorse life peerages and will work in close cooperation with my fellow Peers to defeat this proposal out of the interests of history and keeping some degree of partisanship out of the British government for the people.

Yours Sincerely,

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The Earl of Scarsdale
c/o House of Lords
Westminster
Mr Parris Marr
Foreign Office
Whitehall

6th February, 1956

Dear Earl,

Thank you for your last letter (dated 5th inst.). I was interested in reading your explanation to find that, as I had suspected, our worries are over the same things.

Your first argument is an interesting one: The Lords have no purpose other than as guardians of history, hence their history should be guarded. An original point, I must say. Though surely the argument exists that the Lords' historical composition has never been set in concrete? (Unless you are referring more broadly to the fact of it being filled by hereditary peers in general, in which case I concede – though reserve my rights of cynicism.) The Lords has, over the centuries, and as with many other bodies that can boast as long and proud a history, shifted in its composition. Peers come and go, as do titles themselves. We see swellings in numbers and emancipated reductions. What legitimacy has any one moment in claiming a right to be immortalised?

Your second argument, more worldly, also happens to be my prime interests – though, I hasten to add, not in the febrile iconoclastic manner you may believe. I recognise the Lords not as partisan (which I neither believe it nor desire it to be) but as homogeneous in its outlook. When a body draws from so scarce a pool of talent as the various peerages of the British Isles, incestuous as this is (which I mention as fact and not as libel), it is only natural that we see a gradual solidifying of views and a merging of approaches. You are a wonderful and rare exception in that you are not a Conservative. I say this not as evidence of the existence of an anti-liberal, anti-socialist conspiracy rife on the red benches, but to highlight the plain truth that the Lords are about as diverse as the Nuremberg rallies.

In order that Britain and her democracy be served as well as possible, it is necessary that diverse and disparate views and philosophies be represented in her democratic functions. Would you not rather that the Lords, in its existence as a scrutinising body, executed its job unbothered by biases or prejudices that come from having been shaped by a similar – if not identical – upbringing?

This is the meritocratising desire of the life peerage. I wish neither to dilute nor debase the prestige of the Lords, but I do want it modernised so that it might survive the coming decades. This is not a century for aristocrats, Lord Scarsdale. I do not believe, as some in my party do, in the idea that the titled classes should be swept aside completely, but neither do I believe that they should be allowed to continue to live as if 1938 never ended.

You worry that “Life peerages will, quite simply, create members of the House of Lords who are not present for service or a hereditary obligation”. It is ironic then, perhaps, that the hereditary House of Lords is one where members are simply not present at all. Attendance rates are frighteningly low and it is becoming ever more of a struggle to find men (and soon, I hope, women) willing to accept the burden – for most, do not forget, the practical implications are a burden – of an hereditary peerage in order to inject new blood and fresh oxygen into the chamber. (This, incidentally, is the logic behind making a seat in the Lords salaried: As happened to the Commons relatively recently in its history, we want anyone to be able to participate in democracy without worrying over the cost.)

Yes, many of your Romantic peers might accept inheritance as a challenge to live by a set of certain ideals, but to consider this redundant in life peerages is to look at the issue from the wrong end. Life peers (far from the vulgarity of being mere political appointments) will be men and women of talent and means who have shown themselves to be at the top of their field and so will provide vital – and diverse – expertise to the process of government. Putting captains of industry, while diplomats and formidable intellectuals in the Commons constricts their talent (yes, I speak behind the veil) with party lines and all that comes with maintaining a position in active politics. To allow them to go into the Lords is to give their knowledge and experience the respect and freedom it deserves.

I do not wish to exhort you to support my reforms if you, in your heart of hearts, find them truly reprehensible, but I would ask that you consider the fact that I act (unusually amongst my colleagues, I think) out of a desire to see the Lords and their valuable work survive into the modern age. The House is a mighty oak of British democracy. It would do better to be bamboo.

Yours sincerely,

Parris Marr

Rt Hon Parris Marr
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs
 
As usual, the Honourable Member for Dagenham is tendentious and evasive. First, he glibly conceals the very significant character of these reforms, which are nothing short of a fundamental transformation of the Other House. Second, he saddles the Government with historical responsibility for the perpetuation of the House of Lords' illiberal nature, as if the Rt Hon Member for Walthamstow West was ever in a position to affect reform with his mighty ten-seat majority. This is the first opportunity that the Labour Party has had to act upon its long-standing commitment to constitutional reform. If the gentleman had but a ingenuous bone in his body, he would recognise this.

The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation is a voluntary alliance of fraternal nations. At any time, the United Kingdom could remove itself from this body without repercussion. We remain in the Alliance because it is a demonstrable asset to our national security. Does the Honourable Member desire this country to withdraw from the Alliance, and thereby lose the collective security framework which safeguards us against Soviet assault? No doubt such a feat would be handsomely rewarded by his handler in the Soviet Embassy. The next time the Honourable Member enjoys an audience with his taskmasters, perhaps he should enquire as to the plausibility of any member of the so-called 'Warsaw Pact' withdrawing from that treaty? I assure him that this unlikely prospect would not be benevolently received by the Soviet Empire.

Pray tell, Mr Speaker, what powers has this Government surrendered to the Alliance? What hold does the United States exercise over this country? It is none. Now if we wereto cast our gaze to the enclosed nations of Eastern Europe, what have they surrendered as the price of Soviet liberation? Why, only their sovereignty, their democracy and their economic systems. We inhabit a European continent bifurcated at Berlin between a free West and an enslaved East, and the Honourable Member truly expects us to view the United States as the greater evil? I do not know whether to attribute such sentiments to malice or delusion. In either case, the effect is much the same.

It is the prerogative of the labour movement to select its parliamentary interlocutor. It has overwhelmingly supported the Labour Party, most recently helping it achieve a substantial majority. As such, I find the pretensions of the Honourable Member and his colleagues to be extremely arrogant. The Communist Party has never secured more than a handful of seats; indeed, at the last election, its parliamentary presence was halved. The idea that this fringe outfit is somehow the legitimate vox populi is ludicrous. The British people have relentless rejected the Communist Party. No doubt the Honourable Member for Dagenham would be far more comfortable in Moscow, where the government need not concern itself with such frivolities as elections and popular representation!


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Secretary of State for Defence
Member for Sutton and Cheam
 
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Given the frankly ridiculous pandering of the Prime Minister to those elements within our party which would see the destruction of traditonal British values held so dearly by the electorate which I represent, I must unfortunately tender my resignation as this government's Secretary of State for Scotland. It is my belief that by ignoring calls within the Labour Party for less drastic reform of the House of Lords, by ignoring the opinion of the majority of British citizens and forcing through a needlessly bureaucratic system, by completely and utterly failing to present any form of compromise whatsoever, this Prime Minister has set not only the Labour Party but also the British Empire on a course of destruction.

I will not be a part of this.

Lachlan Barclay
 
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Ministers Plan Trip to Washington

The Prime Minister and the Foreign Secretary will travel to Washington next week in the first trans-Atlantic visit of this government, the Times has learnt. It is thought that Mr. Bennett and Mr. Marr will be meeting members of the Barkley administration to discuss issues including the Spanish blockade, British Guiana and military exercises in the Mediterranean Sea.

The visit comes in conjunction with a cooling both of Anglo–American relations and of inter-cabinet relations[…].
 
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Later, at a very coordinated interview with Staines...

Interviewer: So this resignation does not concern you, Mr. Staines?

Staines: If I might speak frankly, Charles, this is a case of a man jumping before he was pushed.

I: Jumping before he was pushed?

S: Indeed. The Prime Minister made a much fairer and conciliatory set of reforms than even the most entrenched Tory could have ever hoped for. Whilst the Former Minister for Scotland and the Prime Minister agree on a great many things, his backwardness on the Lords was, honestly, unbecoming of a Labour Minister. Had he continued down the path he was heading, I have no doubt that the Prime Minister would have asked for his resignation.

I: But he was simply calling for a compromise, correct?

S: No. The Prime Minister's final opinion on the matter was already fully inclusive of a full range of opinions within the party spectrum. It was already an unprecedented compromise. By calling for more "compromise" with - or rather, bending totally to - his private opinions, the Former Minister was being selfish and inflexible himself. He is simply pressing a mildly contentious issue for his own political gain, which is - frankly - extremely cynical of him to do.

I: And you feel you can still carry the vote, even with this resignation?

S: Oh Charles, have you ever met me?
 
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Scottish Secretary Resigns: Labour in Crisis
Lachlan Barclay, the Government's Secretary of State for Scotland, resigned from cabinet yesterday after a Labour row over House of Lords reform threatened to divide the party. In a statement to the press, Mr. Barclay said that the government was "ignoring the opinion of the majority of British citizens" and attacked the Prime Minister for setting Britain "on a course of destruction." This week's conflict is the latest of many to disturb Dr. Bennett's Government, which has been racked with controversy following the proposed Parliament Bill: a Labour bill which intends to introduce elected peers into the House of Lords and force through other reformations. House of Lords reform, a cornerstone of Labour policy, has proved especially controversial following the publication of the Parliament Bill. Many in the government believe that the Party has gone too far, while leftist Labourites continue to clamor for the upper house's abolition. Mr. Barclay's resignation comes after the announcement by Lord Scarsdale and a wide grouping of Conservative peers that they intend to oppose and defeat the bill in the House of Lords should the bill pass the Commons. Supposed leaks from Labour backbenchers, published in the Daily Telegraph, imply that the Foreign Secretary is also considering his resignation, although his office has made no statements to support these claims. The Prime Minister has also made no comment on the recent allegation, although the scathing nature of Mr. Barclay's speech may force a repose before the Government's bill spins out of control.
 

Outside 19 Bootham Terrace, York. 1956.


‘Excuse me, Mr Marr! Are rumours of your resignation founded?’

‘Good morning to you too, Geoffrey! …

‘Are the rumours founded? I hope not. I still have plenty of work to do as foreign secretary, and hope that this Lords business will not get in the way of the fact that, behind it all, we still have a country to run and global issues to attend to. …

‘Mr Barclay said that this talk of reform has Britain on a course for destruction. Frankly, I think what he meant to say was that we are on a course for distraction. And that, Geoffrey, is far worse.’
 
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MARR,

SPEAKING IN AN ANGRY CAPACITY, I'M AFRAID. DID YOU LEAK YOUR OWN RESIGNATION RUMOURS? WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE THIRD HEART ATTACK.

STAINES
 
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OF COURSE NOT STOP GOT FAR TOO MUCH ON PLATE WITH U. S. TO FIND TIME STOP NOT IN BUSINESS OF SUICIDE STOP

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OF COURSE NOT STOP GOT FAR TOO MUCH ON PLATE WITH U. S. TO FIND TIME STOP NOT IN BUSINESS OF SUICIDE STOP

MARR

MIND IF I MENTION THIS TO TIMES? YOU KNOW HOW THESE HACKS GET.

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Scottish Secretary of State Resigns from Labour Government
In a unexpected outcome on the debate of reform in the House of Lords, Labour minister Lachlan Barclay has official resigned his position of Secretary of State of Scotland. While members of the government have expressed support in reform for the Lords, divisions have become apparent within the Labour Party. As some of Labour's left wishes to abolish the Lords while the right wishes to find a more moderate compromise, infighting on the issue may very well bring the bill down. In Scotland members of the Scottish National Party have praised the resignation of Lachlan Barclay, pivoting the focus onto the importance of Scottish Home Rule. As Scottish Labour remains in shock over the incident, nationalists have been making hay on this issue as "failing to support Scotland and their constituencies". The former actor and SNP backer William MacDougal has recently praised Barclay for his resignation, and has called on Scottish voters to reject the divided Labour Party and swing SNP to prevent a Tory takeover in Scotland. While the SNP itself has yet to gain major strength in the region, the combination of the overwhelming desire for Home Rule and the weakened Labour opponent has supporters more optimistic than usual, hoping that it may pick up momentum in the coming years.​
 
((Because of the massive player imbalance towards Labour, I'm going to rejoin as a Tory fairly soon. Thought I'd give a heads up in the thread.))
 
Excerpt from an interview with the Deputy General Secretary of the Communist Party, and MP for Dagenham, Jarlath Connor on the House of Lords reform

Journalist #1:
Mr. Connor, the House of Lords reform is dividing the Labour Party, with the recent resignation of the Secretary of State of Scotland and harsh criticism from Lord Scarsdale. However, you have been criticizing the reform for not being substantial enough. Would you be ready to support the Conservative, Liberal and Labour opposition and vote against the reform?

Connor: Unless the government decides to start addressing the issues Britain faces and actually abolishes the House of Lords, as the Labour Movement wants, the CPBG MPs will vote against these government measures that are insufficient. We are fundamentally opposed to the reactionary aims of the current government, and will oppose them both in an outside the Commons. The declarations of the Secretary of State for Defence on the matter are clear, and it is obvious that the current government wants to retain the current imperial and capitalistic state of affairs.
 
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As usual, the Honourable Member for Dagenham is tendentious and evasive. First, he glibly conceals the very significant character of these reforms, which are nothing short of a fundamental transformation of the Other House. Second, he saddles the Government with historical responsibility for the perpetuation of the House of Lords' illiberal nature, as if the Rt Hon Member for Walthamstow West was ever in a position to affect reform with his mighty ten-seat majority. This is the first opportunity that the Labour Party has had to act upon its long-standing commitment to constitutional reform. If the gentleman had but a ingenuous bone in his body, he would recognise this.

The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation is a voluntary alliance of fraternal nations. At any time, the United Kingdom could remove itself from this body without repercussion. We remain in the Alliance because it is a demonstrable asset to our national security. Does the Honourable Member desire this country to withdraw from the Alliance, and thereby lose the collective security framework which safeguards us against Soviet assault? No doubt such a feat would be handsomely rewarded by his handler in the Soviet Embassy. The next time the Honourable Member enjoys an audience with his taskmasters, perhaps he should enquire as to the plausibility of any member of the so-called 'Warsaw Pact' withdrawing from that treaty? I assure him that this unlikely prospect would not be benevolently received by the Soviet Empire.

Pray tell, Mr Speaker, what powers has this Government surrendered to the Alliance? What hold does the United States exercise over this country? It is none. Now if we wereto cast our gaze to the enclosed nations of Eastern Europe, what have they surrendered as the price of Soviet liberation? Why, only their sovereignty, their democracy and their economic systems. We inhabit a European continent bifurcated at Berlin between a free West and an enslaved East, and the Honourable Member truly expects us to view the United States as the greater evil? I do not know whether to attribute such sentiments to malice or delusion. In either case, the effect is much the same.

It is the prerogative of the labour movement to select its parliamentary interlocutor. It has overwhelmingly supported the Labour Party, most recently helping it achieve a substantial majority. As such, I find the pretensions of the Honourable Member and his colleagues to be extremely arrogant. The Communist Party has never secured more than a handful of seats; indeed, at the last election, its parliamentary presence was halved. The idea that this fringe outfit is somehow the legitimate vox populi is ludicrous. The British people have relentless rejected the Communist Party. No doubt the Honourable Member for Dagenham would be far more comfortable in Moscow, where the government need not concern itself with such frivolities as elections and popular representation!


Rt. Hon. Sylvia Leighton PC MP
Secretary of State for Defence
Member for Sutton and Cheam
Mr. Speaker,
It is becoming increasingly obvious that the current government are using this House of Lords "reform" in order to hide their capitalistic agenda and turn the debate towards other, more comfortable and compromisable matters for the administration, such as this so-called "reform". However, the Labour Movement is not going to compromise on it's ideas, even though if the Toryist Party that is in charge pretends to reppresent it and speak for it by compromising. We are opposed to this reactionary and class-collaborating legislation, and will oppose these attempts and any other attempts at perpetuating the capitalist rule of the 1% over the 99% of the British population. The House of Lords is the very incarnation of what we fight against, and it needs to be outright abolished. It is a fossilized and reactionary chamber of appointed and hereditary capitalists that oppress the British people. That chamber is what the Rt Hon Prime Minister and his government wants to retain. These measures follow the long traditions of other reactionary Toryist governments, and show a long-standing commitment to constitutional status quo rather than reform.

The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation is an imperialistic organisation created by the U.S in order for it to expand it's influence and control the economy. There is nothing fraternal in it, except for the common belief of the governments that are a part of it that the capitalists should remain in charge and the colonial empires of oppression retained. This is a philosophy we can conclude that the current government shares, given it's foreign policies, planned visit to the U.S, hostility to the republics managed by the people, such as the Soviet Union, and belief that the empire should be retained, which the recent declaration of the Rt Hon Member for Falkirk proves. The N.A.T.O member-states actions concerning China and Spain are also good examples of the alliance's aims. The Communist Party of Great Britain is in favour of Britain taking back its independence and dismantling the empire. The fear of Soviet "Assault" that the Rt Hon Secretary of State for Defence is trying to scare the British population with is an attempt at creating divisions within the working class of Britain and a way of trying to ignore the reality, which is that the Soviet Union is a democracy ruled by its own people, and that it has shared interests with the Labour Movement of Britain.

The powers that the government has surrendered to the N.A.T.O Alliance are military and economic. Today, Britain is helping out the U.S military, and also paying for it, while loosing it's own industrial independency. On the other hand, the Warsaw Pact is an alliance that was created in reaction to the threat the re-militarization in West Germany posed, and for the national security of the peace-loving states that are a part of it. N.A.T.O is a direct threat to the democracies of Eastern Europe, and by participating, Britain is threatening the workers of these countries and the peace in the world. Countries such as Finland joining the Warsaw Pact proves it's peaceful and defensive nature. Europe is divided between a capitalist as well as imperial side, controlled by the U.S and their capitalists, and a democratic, peaceful and socialist other side. None of the nations of Eastern Europe are enclosed, and they are technologically and culturally more advanced than Britain, thanks to the class struggle having won. Recently, Spain was also liberated by it's people from the fascistic Franco, who was directly supported by the U.S and N.A.T.O. Spain is now controlled by the its people, that together can rebuild the country and thanks to the protection of the Warsaw Pact do not need to fear imperialist aggressions. None of the reactionary objections and capitalist ideas of the Rt Hon Secretary of State for Defence will change this.

Furthermore, it would seem that the Rt Hon Secretary of State for Defence has forgotten that the CPBG percentually increased significantly in terms of popular supports in the latest elections, something which the system of first-past the post which the administration supports tries to minimize. That system was designed in order to restrict the voice of the Labour Movement. But it has failed to silence it's voice, and we shall continue the struggle for Britain both in and outside Parliament, in order to achieve the change for which we aim, which was outlined in The British Road to Socialism. The workers and people were called upon the CPBG to unite and fight for change, and we shall continue that call and our struggle, which history has proven as the sole way to bring victory for the working class and socialism. Our movement has no separate interests from the Labour Movement and we have inherited the traditions of the democratic and working class movement in Britain, something which the party that is currently in charge has abandoned and replaced with Toryism and class-collaboration!

- Jarlath Connor, Communist MP for Dagenham
 
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"No person shall serve in the House of Lords for more than one term"? Is Bennett's Party now principally opposed to stability and constants? Besides the practical concerns of finding 450 new politically active Lords every decade, I believe it would be a huge mistake to seek change for the sake of change. This update to the Bill effectively decapitates the House of Lords as a supervising body, effectuating restrictions upon its membership which are unheard of for any Lower or Upper House in the Western world.