Stellaris Dev Diary #301 - Galactic Paragons is out, what's next?

[EulersApprentice]

• Autocannons are no longer valued at three times their intended military power.

YES

 

[Helicopter200]

Are you gonna add cities and shipset for hivemind and machines at some point?

 

[Rafss]

RIP Autocannon Diplomacy

 

[Me_]

Someone's going to ask, so it may as well be me: are you planning to add more outcomes to the Luminary event chain?

Also: can we manually force Leaders of Opportunity not to advance above level 4?

 

[Necron123]

• Added the Leader of Opportunity trait, leaders that have this trait do not count towards Leader Capacity while under Level 4.
• Aptitude Tradition "Champions of the Empire" now gives bonus per Leaders' levels.
  • Effect is now a flat -2 Empire Size per Governor level, and 0.5% Exp per Scientist level and 2 Naval capacity per Admiral/General level.

Time to home-grow 6 Empire Size, 1.5% Leader EXP and 6 Naval Cap bonuses. Progenitor Hives would probably be the best at this given the extra leader XP they get.

EDIT: Not anymore, said trait is awarded only by events.

 

[Starfury]

• Aptitude Tradition "Champions of the Empire" now gives bonus per Leaders' levels.
  • Effect is now a flat -2 Empire Size per Governor level, and 0.5% Exp per Scientist level and 2 Naval capacity per Admiral/General level.

Good fix on the broken tradition. It's still somewhat spammable, but there's some pretty hard limits to overcome.

However I think you still need to do something about the straight-up broken traits:

• Blocker and Building cost reduction traits are near-useless if used as intended (i.e. on a planetary scale). And if you buff them to be worth it on a planetary scale, they'd probably become broken when used in the tedious way. Governor traits should only apply to things that happen over time, not to instant effects.
• There's way too many sources of ship build cost reductions for there to be a spammable trait. Change those traits to ship build speed, ship starting xp, +x% hull/armor/shield hp, anything that doesn't completely break the balance.

 

[SkyGuy7617]

Are there any plans to modify the leader cap? I know it's supposed to be a soft cap, but so far I haven't yet encountered any methods other than a tradition or two that increase it. It would be nice if there were some more.

 

[Edorath]

Thank god new leaders no longer have resource traits, i lost count of how many new leaders i skipped due to those even as a non-gestalt.
Also i assume legendary leaders are supposed to mean legendary paragons and renowned paragons still take a slot right?

 

[luxeritib]

I hope this patch also fixes leader trait stacking issues. Shipwright governors become a big problem when they stack, Gray Eminence councilors also become a problem when they stack, making empire size pointless.

 

[SilentReflection]

An idea I’ve talked about before, but which became more relevant with Paragons and the Under One Rule origin:
Could it be possible for the Divine Sovereign shroud event to trigger for empires with an Imperial authority?

 

[Alfray Stryke]

Are there any plans to modify the leader cap? I know it's supposed to be a soft cap, but so far I haven't yet encountered any methods other than a tradition or two that increase it. It would be nice if there were some more.

There's a couple of bonuses scattered about:

• Transcendent Learning AP: +2
• Dystopian Society civic: +1
• Pooled Knowledge civic: +1
• Autonomous Drones civic: +1
• Factory Overclocking civic: +1
• Precision Cogs civic: +1
• Colonial Centralization tech: +1
• Collective Self/Embodied Dynamism tech: +1
• Aptitude tradition: +1
• Statecraft tradition: +1
• Chosen of the Composer ruler: +1

Granted not all of these are accessible to all empires, but it should be possible for most to get a leader cap of around 8-10.

Thank god new leaders no longer have resource traits, i lost count of how many new leaders i skipped due to those even as a non-gestalt.
Also i assume legendary leaders are supposed to mean legendary paragons and renowned paragons still take a slot right?

Yeah, only the five legendary leaders (Gray, Azaryn, Keides, Sharpbeak and the Beholder) don't count towards the cap.

 

[WARRIOR_PSIX]

Hi. Since you have decided to solve all possible balance problems except for 90 percent discounts, it would be great if the problem of starting on the relic world is solved. The fact is that after the renewal, organic empires lost their power. Starting on the relic world after the last update has become very expensive. I think it would be fair to double the production of small artifacts that researchers produce

 

[Arxlite]

Nice to see some improvements about leader capacity. Leader of Opportunity trait seems a very nice addition.

 

[Obeliskkai]

I suppose as we approach the Swedish summer holiday we will see bug fixes and the balance patch and then, hopefully, the big experiments they plan to try out to see if they improve the game. Wonder what it will be this year (please be the faction overhaul).

 

[Strangedane]

So the 0 empire build with grey eminences aren't getting touched a whole patch?

Gonna be a silly ride.

 

[Gabarius]

I don't see the purpose of the leader cap at all. Just unity upkeep was enough, not to mention the ever-increasing recruitment cost. It was a system that worked really well, and now we have something that's terribly broken.

 

[Gabarius]

I would also really like to see a balance of upkeep modifiers, because right now it's really ridiculous how you can nearly nullify all kinds of expenses.

 

[Harvey_James]

i find you get offered too many useless traits on leaders.. councillor traits are offered so often to non councillor members.. you get offered the resource skills later in game when there useless.. we need a broader selection of skills and maybeup the amount we get offered by default maybe have a relevance weighted system i have also seen some OP ship cost/build time combo's that simply shouldnt be possible that needs fixing

 

[CMDR Exorcist]

Guess it was too much to expect you guys to actually address the leader cap being too low. If you’re forced to sacrifice civic, tech, and ascension tree perk choices to boost the cap regardless of empire type you’re playing, then it’s a universally broken system.