Does the Tenno have to be Shinto as much as the Pope has to be Catholic, in real life and in game?
He’s the head of the Shinto faith so yes, however Shinto is far more syncretic than catholicism?Does the Tenno have to be Shinto as much as the Pope has to be Catholic, in real life and in game?
Relating to that, how do you gain a Chinese Imperial bloodline?
I propose that the Tianxia counterpart to MIngplosion be: "go out with a Tang"
Does the Tenno have to be Shinto as much as the Pope has to be Catholic, in real life and in game?
So I was a Tenno, and I pushed a claim on China of my Shinto dynast, and he succeeded me as the Tenno, and when I destroyed the Takamikura and convert to Buddhism, I got the Chinese Imperial government but the dynasty is still Yamato and I don't get a Chinese Imperial Bloodline?Aside from the "Marry into it and inherit it" approach you can get a pretender bloodline by founding a pretender empire (or taking over one and continuing with a new imperial dynasty) and a real one by taking over (usurping/recreating) China (as someone eligible for Chinese Imperial that gets to create a new dynasty (and that's not already part of a real Chinese Imperial bloodline)). If you initially were ineligible for a real one but convert to an appropriate religion (and culture, if you aren't using the current game rule) while ruling China you should also get one (if I remember correctly; I've not looked at that particular script in a while).
@Silversweeeper , feel free to use any religion icons from Lux Invicta. I don't know how extensive our icons are, but its got a bunch of different ones than vanilla.
I am glad you all are still developing Tianxia!
So I was a Tenno, and I pushed a claim on China of my Shinto dynast, and he succeeded me as the Tenno, and when I destroyed the Takamikura and convert to Buddhism, I got the Chinese Imperial government but the dynasty is still Yamato and I don't get a Chinese Imperial Bloodline?
Does it change anything, now that I remember that I did not destroy Takamikura, but gave it away?You're really not supposed to destroy k_chrysanthemum_throne. It's definitely not working as intended, though it might not be possible to fix if vanilla doesn't have a way of fixing it (and new functionality for CK2 is pretty unlikely at this point...). If it can't be fixed due to missing functionality, we won't take any responsibility for any issues encountered taking advantage of this.
Does it change anything, now that I remember that I did not destroy Takamikura, but gave it away?
I think that not getting a bloodline in my case is relevant somehow to the fact that that dynast already got the Tang bloodline?
Either that guy was landless, or he had Confucian Bureaucracy. There was a distinct lack of the Japanese Feudal or Japanese Monastic Feudal government in my realm.That should be impossible (assuming you didn't use the console (or save game editing), since we can't do anything about that) due to how the Japanese Imperial government is scripted...
Which government did the recipient have prior to getting the title?
I remember you said something that "Japanese Imperial now cannot give kingdoms to vassal of another government, instead of government group". That save of mine was in the previous version.
I am not sure if this is intended for Confucian bureaucracy government types. Playing as Goguryeo from the 769 bookmark, I manage to gain enough moral authority for Muism to reform the religion. My question is if it is normal to be forced into a feudal government from Confucian bureaucracy if you reform the religion. No matter the new religious configuration you will end up in a feudal government.
I tried the combination of:
Cosmopolitan, Self-Improvement, Astrology and Autonomous which led to feudal.
I then tried the combo you listed and it was fine and I stayed Confucianist. Funny that I didn't consider Astrology was the problem (That is a shame as I really wanted access to the Hermetic society with society options are pretty limited as a Muist pagan)
Thanks for the info, at least I can remain in a Confucian style government now. I didn't see a Confucian principles doctrine to select.Astrology is fine if you also get Meritocracy and Stability (through the "Confucian Principles" Doctrine, since that's the only way to get those two in the same Doctrine slot), and the same goes for Self-Improvement. It's pretty strict at present since it roughly checks "Is this the rough equivalent of Taoist [plus one Doctrine that isn't too weird and/or going to break the Grace system]?"
Regarding societies being limited, Muists have as many as the average vanilla pagan (you have a DW society, one additional society (the Hwarang instead of a WL), and can reform to get Hermetic access). I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea of giving them something more (that's not a WL; we're not going with the "Let's give everyone a WL!" approach), but at present I don't have any good ideas for any such society, it's currently not a priority (as they just got additional flavour, which included access to a unique society (shared with Koreanic Buddhists)), and anything that's not essentially a copy-paste of a vanilla society requires quite a bit of work (at least if it is supposed to have a good amount of flavour).
Thanks for the info, at least I can remain in a Confucian style government now. I didn't see a Confucian principles doctrine to select.
I found another oddity, a Korean Holy order popped up after the reformation. However the religion of the new grandmaster wasn't Musit but Catholic (attached screenshot in spoiler)
Looks like it might be related to this vanilla bug. It should be fixed in CleanSlate, if you want to source a fix.You might have disabled it with a game rule (I don't remember if it defaults to being disallowed for Muists or not).
Very strange. That event doesn't create a Catholic character (and is essentially a copy-paste of vanilla's pagan holy order creation events, with the religion and culture swapped), it only mentions "religion = catholic" in the one place (as a pre-trigger to make it fire for the Pope), and the holy order is also not scripted to be Catholic (so it's not conversion after creation)...