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HoI4 Dev Diary - Poland Focus Tree Rework Part 2/2

Hello folks and welcome back to the Poland dev-diary extravaganza! This week, I am going to continue covering the changes coming to Poland in 1.11 Barbarossa and the unannounced DLC.Today we’ll be covering the DLC content.
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So, I’m going to start here with something a bunch of you predicted last week; you can indeed play as the Peasants’ Strike! A Poland with ambitions to restore democracy or embrace the communist revolution must first build an organized peasant militia from the rabble of disorganized farmers!
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No matter how many or few states join you in the strike, the rebellious state will be in a delicate balancing act between democrats and socialists. Your first step towards revolution is to sway the Front Morges to take up the peasant’s cause, the Morges being an alliance of political parties supported by a select few Polish generals including Sikorski.
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Each focus you do in this initial block will add 5 support to either communism or democracy, with a total of 50% or more being needed for one to assert dominance over the other and take control of the government.
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Similar to the Spanish Civil War, the Peasants’ Strike will be on a tight schedule, taking up to a year before the revolution happens. Poland will at first be able to add agricultural states to the strike, but by expanding the strike to factory workers, Poland will also be able to bring states from Poland’s industrial heartland into the revolution.
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Along with contesting for popular support, gaining military support will be vital for the movement. Using decisions, certain field marshals and generals will be swayed to your cause and gain the “Peasant Sympathiser” trait, ensuring that they will join your side when the war begins.
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Poland will begin with socialist politician Stanisław Mikołajczyk as country leader, but those who wish to see the return of Wincenty Witos will be able to bring him back to leadership via event.
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Once the civil war is won, Poland will be in a vulnerable state. Recuperating manpower and resources after a civil war will place Poland in a precarious position, so some concessions and outreach for foreign assistance may be needed.
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A communist Poland will have two options: they may be bold and elect an anti-Stalinist candidate as Chairman, or they may elect the Soviet-aligned Władysław Gomułka. However, aligning with the Soviets will come at the cost of ceding Eastern Poland, but will unlock a few focuses for dealing with the USSR.

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With democracy, Poland may take advantage of the Front Morges’ ambitions for closer relations with the French and create the Morges Pact, a sort-of Poland-led Little Entente. Going down this route will allow Poland access to the Between the Seas branch we talked about last week.

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Anti-Soviet communists will be able to denounce both Capitalism and Fascism, diplomatically isolating this people’s republic, but allowing for new expansion options and military bonuses against the empires of this world. In doing so, they will gain a powerful attack and defence bonus against major powers.
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Both democrats and anti-Soviet communists will also be able to declare the destruction of fascism a greater cause than the spread of socialism and align themselves with the British Empire. Doing so will allow Poland to renew her interests in colonialism and attempt to purchase colonies from Allied powers. By officially recognising the Maritime and Colonial League, Poland can purchase Madagascar, Palestine, and more. If any of your purchases are successful, Poland will have somewhere to build their forces in exile, should the front back home fail.

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No matter which option you pick, either conquering or building alliances with the Baltic States will allow you to create a new kind of Commonwealth: the Commonwealth of Socialist Republics.

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Moving on to the next branch, we have the Regency Council: Poland’s attempt to “restore” the monarchy. The Act of the Fifth of November was the promise of the Central Powers to release a Kingdom of Poland from the occupied territories of the Russian Empire, but the Regency Council of the newly formed Kingdom of Poland failed to crown a King before Józef Piłsudski declared the Second Polish Republic.

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With the Regency Council assembled, Poland will be able to choose from one of three claimants, each with their own complete political path. There were countless claimants and candidates for the Polish throne so it was impossible for me to make content for them all, so we have: The Hohenzollern, The Commonwealth Claimant, and the Cossack-King to choose from!

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The Commonwealth Claimant is perhaps the most obvious: Poland’s preferred candidate for King was Friedrich Christian. Christian was preferred due to Poland’s long connection with the houses of Saxony, and with a claimant so supported by the Poles, you are able to claim the throne of Lithuania without the need for warfare.

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Through decisions, Poland can trend monarchist sentiment up in Lithuania, and when it reaches high enough, they may either enter a civil war or peacefully take over the government. When either case has happened, Poland can annex the Lithuanian Kingdom and begin integrating the industries of their two nations and preparing for war with the Soviets and Germans: restoring the old borders of the Commonwealth and then some!

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Poland and Romania enjoyed close relations at the start of HoI’s timeframe, and with the throne of Poland empty, Poland may throw herself into the complex mess of Romanian politics by electing a Romanian King.

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With King Michael on the throne of Poland, the Kingdoms will be able to unite under the right circumstances. Either by Polish interference or by Romania completing “King Michael’s Coup”, Romania and Poland will be united, bringing their armies together and becoming a powerful wall between the Axis and the Comintern.

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This Intermarium nation may seek Balkan Domination and a restoration of Poland-Hungary, or (as with the Commonwealth) it may seek to maintain its alignment with the Allies.

Finally, we have the most unlikely candidate for the throne: Pavel Bermondt-Avalov.
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A warlord, a cossack, and a Georgian Prince, Pavel led an interesting life of conquest and warfare. In the interwar period, Pavel and his Bermontian host invaded Lithuania and Latvia for reasons historians are still unsure of, but his ambition for Baltic domination makes him the ideal candidate for militarizing the Polish state into action and dominating the Baltics and Czechoslovakia.
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When done conquering the Baltics, Pavel will be able to either turn his militarized Polish Kingdom against the Germans and asser Poland’s claims in Silesia and Pomerania or, as a National Socialist, Pavel may wish to seek alignment with the Germans, which brings us on to the fascist branch.
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Poland was home to a multitude of fascist and nationalist movements: the most notable of which are the Endecja (or National Democracy) and the Falanga. The Sanation historically made dealings with both of these groups, and as such, if you want either Endecja or Falanga to take control, you must collaborate with the Sanation until you are able to supplant them.

When either Endecja or Falanga have taken over the government, they will have a choice to either stand firm with Polish nationalism or make concessions to the Germans and attempt to seek an alliance.
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Aligning with the Germans will not place you on equal grounds, and it is not as easy as it once was. Germany will refuse to ally with Poland unless Danzig and Poznan are surrendered and Poland becomes a German subject. Unlike Czechoslovakia though, the Poles will be able to break their shackles and tear the Reich apart from within.

With either Pavel, Piasecki, or Dmowski in control, Poland will be presented with a ladder of focuses enabling them to either gain powerful bonuses from the Germans or plot with the Underground State to overthrow their current masters.
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Going for independence will allow Poland to switch sides and stab Germany in the back, whereas remaining loyal will enable Poland to gain some cores in the USSR in a sort-of reverse Yalta Conference.
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However, a Falanga or Endecja that does not bow to the Germans will be able to lean into the Polish Catholic identity and form the Falangist International: a faction devoted to the perseverance of Falangist ideals.
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Once the Spanish Civil War is done with, if either the Carlists, Nationalists, or Falangists come out on top, Poland will be able to bring them into their own faction and from there, they will be able to expand that faction to other nations where Falangism was present such as: Mexico, the Netherlands, and much of Latin America.

They will have access to decisions to boost fascism in those nations, and with a certain percentage achieved, those nations will be invited to join the Falangist International. These focuses invite multiple nations at once, so the faction can grow very large very quickly.
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Similar to the Sanation path, the Polish fascists must choose between allying with Lithuania or attempting to reclaim the legacy of the Commonwealth, but choose wisely. Without allying Lithuania, this Poland will be unable to progress down the Between the Seas path, severely limiting their faction’s ability to expand.

That’s about it for the political paths, so I’ll wrap this one up by talking about a feature we haven’t touched in quite some time: Governments in Exile.
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Unlike France and the Netherlands, Poland does not by default have a vast colonial empire to which they may retreat when things fall apart back home, so Poland will be entirely reliant on the support and goodwill of their allies and the network of resistance fighters in the Polish Underground State.
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In exile, the Polish government went through a number of Prime Ministers and Presidents before landing on something the Allies were satisfied with. If Poland is following a historical route and is exiled in a Democratic nation like Britain or France, they will demand the resignation of the Sanation leaders, and from there, Poland may pick from one of three new leaders, each with a unique personality enabling them to gain manpower while in exile.

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On top of that, they will gain access to Irena Anders as a political adviser, granting more legitimacy, stability, and exiled manpower.

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In the exile focus tree, Poland can gain a number of offmap factories and dockyards, and bonuses to their ace generation and an increase in special forces cap. Poland will never muster a major army while exiled, but with these bonuses, Poland will still be able to keep fighting on with a small but specialised force.

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Owners of La Resistance will gain access to a slew of agency bonuses including an increase to their spy capacity, free agency upgrades via focus, and the new Warsaw Uprising operation.

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Completing the operation will trigger the Warsaw Uprising sooner than the game mechanics usually allow. With 50% resistance or higher in Polish states, the uprising can be started, but time this well as you can only complete this operation once. A well-timed uprising can shatter the German army and leave them short on supply as they attempt Operation Barbarossa.

Poland was also vital to assisting in decrypting the enigma machine, so they also gain access to the Mastermind Codebreaker advisor: Marian Rejewski.

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The old Cyclometer and Bombe focuses have been moved into the espionage branch, but I noted that without any territory left, a bonus to atomic research was fairly useless to Poland. So, when the Atomic Research focus is done, Poland gains an offmap nuclear reactor that will give roughly one nuke per year... Try not to think too hard about it.

There were a lot of interesting alternate-history scenarios for Poland to explore and new possibilities came up during my research and implementation. Though I didn’t represent everything in game (such as the proposed Japan-Polish alliance), Poland is a treasure-trove of alternate history scenarios if only you can find a way to survive.

That’s all for this week, and that wraps up the two week Poland extravaganza!
 
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Dear @Meka66

Some of these branches are good while others are not and some important one are missing.
It's remarkable how overwhelmingly negative the community reaction is, please take the citicism seriously and implement the much demanded stuff.

Yes, unfortunately I'm only able to make so many different paths for Poland.
You really should add one, it would work well with the Hungarian AH restoration branch.
Without it, AH can be screwed if Poland unites with Romania and attacks them.
Please add A Habsburg branch to the Polish focus tree!
 
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Honestly I feel like fascist Piast legacy king and friend of Goering (It was Goering right?) could be easily changed with this Pavel guy :)
I doubt it would be easy. A good portrait would be wasted :D

Well, I understand that if they have it implemented it is a cost. This is how game production works a bit, but who knows.


Yes, he was a friend of Hermann Göring. Here is a great Wikipedia source:
But more pro sources also confirm it.

However, his historical conflict with the Nazis might fit in with what was written as a tearing apart of the Third Reich from within.

Well, the heritage of the Piasts in the Hessen-Kassel family is at least a combination. And it fits the fascist path, because it is, however, a legendary Polish dynasty associated with power by the times of elective monarchs.
 
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Am I the only one who is really hyped for this? Poland has had it's focus tree as long as the Soviets and Italians have had theirs, the United for Victory DLC was literally released for free on day 1. People shouldn't complain about Poland. The Soviet rework will be soon, and the Italian rework in the next DLC. Stop complaining.
You wouldn’t tell someone to stop complaining if a chef came out and gave someone undercooked and half-prepared food. This tree is just poorly done, customers have a right to demand more from those they buy from.
 
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Pls. Add option to not surender any terytory and ally with USSR as it whas on oryginal tree. Or let a surender focus triger an negotiation event. Poland schould be abble to keep east border and expand to the west with help of Red army. Now new comunist tree is just broken and i would rather keep an older simpler version. Is that any point to go comunist allaiance with USSR in new tree ? The same about aliance with germany. Pupet Poland ? Why don't give us an option of instant war with germany and pupet them instead ? What about Polisch involvment in rainland crisis. And what about Polisch western climes and Zaolzie core ?
 
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As a pole:
What.
I think it is fair to say that this is straight up insulting, because of just a single reason I mention in my post:
So, I was born in Poland, my parents are Poles, my ancestors are all Poles of varying faiths and ethnicities, and I do believe I have a gasp on polish history, the last diary, it was realistic-ish, not really too much, but it was okay for me to ignore. But this. This is just. What the heck.

Okay, I'll talk of things which I know, and because I happen to be a fan of White Army, it'll be Pavel Bermondt-Avalov. First of all, Avalov had no connection to Poland, none at all. In fact, he was allied with forces that fought with Polish allies, and fought against these allies them himself. (He was one of leaders of Western Russian Voluntary Army that have happened to fight on same side as German Freikorps and other pro-German elements in Latvia, HOWEVER, Latvian forces that fought for independence were allied with Polish forces.) Avalov was a national socialist who looked up to Hitler, and most interestingly of all. HE NEVER STEPPED HIS FOOT IN POLAND. EVER. He lived in Balkans, and then in New York, so why paradox would put him as one of options, I don't know
And you want to know what is insulting?
There is literally a pro-polish White Russian general who literally fought to defend Warsaw from Wehrmacht in 1939, AND then started a resistance organisation, and died fighting with occupying enemy force, fighting for polish freedom.
His name in polish was Stanisław Bułak-Bałachowicz, or in his native Belarusian: Станіслаў Булак-Балаховіч
He fought for White Army in Pskov against Bolsheviks, he fought for arguably first National Belarusian army. He was known as one of most daring and brave commanders in Polish-Soviet War. He organized a force of 1.7 thousand volunteers to defend Warsaw against Wehrmacht, and fought bravely. Then, after Poland was defeated he fought still, starting one of first insurgency organizations, Konfederacja Wojskowa. I recommend anyone with any interest in history to at least read his Wikipedia page, because he was probably one of most interesting commanders in entire Polish-Soviet war in my eyes, and he was probably the most determinated one. For paradox to never mention his name, yet make a Nazi Avalov one of Polish leaders is just... Jesus.
I won't even mention how paradox completely messed up and thinks that Polish Falange and Spanish Falange are same things, because at this point, there are other people here who will do this better.
So yeah, I'd say this is insulting.
 
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The US was the only country that got nukes during the game's timeframe, but it's ok if we give Poland a free nuke out of thin air every year, I don't see anything wrong with this at all...

The Avalov guy (according to Wikipedia), was an adopted member of a minor noble house in Georgia and didn't have any particular connection to Poland and wasn't a very important or well-known person during the time period. The Polish inviting him as king is ridiculous. As I noted in a previous post, he's not very well known in Georgia and doesn't even have a Georgian Wikipedia page.

Does the Soviet military staff focus give you Rokossovsky as a general?
 
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Am I the only one who is really hyped for this? Poland has had it's focus tree as long as the Soviets and Italians have had theirs, the United for Victory DLC was literally released for free on day 1. People shouldn't complain about Poland. The Soviet rework will be soon, and the Italian rework in the next DLC. Stop complaining.


Actually, i am not complaining - just wondering whether i got something wrong with the calendar date and today would be the first day of this very month.


On a more serious note, i don't think that people are complaining about Poland (the first minor the get a distinct focus tree now being the first minor to get a huge overhaul while majors and world powers have to stick with the initial stuff) getting a focus tree in principle.


It is more the actual planned content that makes me shiver and wonder what may come next... The most blatant example: If i understood it correctly, Poland requires to be conquered so that it gets a bunch of untouchable industrial complexes and a nuclear reactor (just one, a small one and really just only one) - untouchable because of ... reasons (placed next to Legolas tree house in Middle Earth? Somewhere in a Galaxy far, far away, buried close to the Owen farm?).

An unconquered France bows to Poland for forming an alliance?

Poland getting cores all across Eastern Europe just because of ... reasons (again)?


Sry but i have difficulties to take this serious at all.
 
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Apart from the general portraits - everything looks good. The portraits guys, are really poor, especially the uniforms. They aren't the right colours and my eyes are bleeding. Also, why is Pilecki a selectible general? He was only a capitain - dispite everything he did.
We'll be taking a look at the colors, but the ranks in the game are not real world ranks. We often need to take liberties here to map stuff to the game
 
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Because Yugoslavia was developed during Death or Dishonor before government in exile was a thing. Now Poland after Man the Guns and government in exile can have that.
 
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but the ranks in the game are not real world ranks. We often need to take liberties here to map stuff to the game
"Map stuff to the game"?! Oh lord expecting actual generals to be represented in a HOI game seems to be too much to ask these days. How far has the series with one of the best WW2 General databases fallen...
 
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@Meka66 or @podcat

I hope you still take some questions as i'm quite late to the party.

Is Józef Unrug an Admiral for Poland ?

Will we be able to invite Polish communist Generals like Gen. Berling or the Soviet Konstanty Rokossowski with a focus ?
(The focus 'Soviet Military Staff' in the communist branch comes to mind)

Iirc i spotted Gen. Kutrzeba as a General. Can you already spoil his stats/traits or even only some of them ?

Also, i intentionally waited for now to read the comments as i expected at least "some" fallout after i already had a weird feeling about this focus-tree reading the diary, yet i admire your will to try to apply some proposals made here, as i saw by reading the dev comments. So thanks for that!

(Pleeeease fix the uniform colors!)

Cheers!
 
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Yeah it's a bit silly on paper, but it's mainly there to represent the work of Polish scientists in the field of nuclear research. It's hard to represent that in a way that the player can engage with, so giving them the odd nuclear weapon to drop on Germany seemed like away to gamify that idea and make it fun.
What if instead the focus raised the nuclear research of Polish allies, then? A focus that you take which doesn't pay off for you directly, but indirectly, because it still helps your faction win?
 
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I see a lot of effort put into Poland (two developer diaries so far) with some debates how far history is accurately reflected (Danzig/Gdansk... ?) comparing it to alternative history... some like it, some don't.

Now, if the Soviet Union only gets a fraction of this attention... - but we will see. I am more interested in their development than that of a minor in those days. Nothing against Poland, but Russia/the Soviet Union at least deserves the same attention (if not more) for historical (and ahistorical) play.
And then there is the revamped supply system and (hopefully?) revised division designer...

Very ambitions, guys, just very ambitious!

I still have not given up hope on an independent Danzig! Even with a standard focus tree...
 
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July 1944, Armia Krajowa Headquarters
Soldier - General! The envoy of the Polish government-in-exile has arrived!
General - It's unplanned. But let him in immediately!
Envoy - Greetings from London, General! I'm coming with new guidelines for Operation Storm.
General - Oh?
Envoy - Please start a large-scale uprising immediately. Including ordering the beginning of the Warsaw Uprising.
General - What? We're not ready yet. The Soviet troops are too far away, but there are plenty of German divisions everywhere. So far, we were to limit ourselves to sabotaging infrastructure, factories, airports, etc. for some time.
Envoy - It's not a problem. Please start the uprising as soon as possible.
General - How is it not a problem? Our divisions are too weak and not ready. It's mostly Rookies Experience level. It will end up in complete failure.
Envoy - Not if Germany loses all of its high command, Hitler, and it's capital. On the other hand, the soldiers of the Armia Krajowa will fight a crushed, begging for help, opponent deprived of morale and organization.
General - What?
Envoy - That's what I came for. What I am going to tell you now, General is top secret. Our physicists have already completed the construction of secret nuclear reactors in Polish Madagascar some time ago. So now Armia Krajowa has nuclear weapons at its disposal thanks to the completion of the Madagascar Project.
General - What?
Envoy - That is why we are modifying the plan of the uprising. At its inception, the first nuclear bomb in history completely destroys Berlin. The second, however, falls directly on the largest group of enemy divisions, which are immediately crushed by our insurgent troops.
General - What?
Envoy - If, on the other hand, the Soviets didn't accept the existence of an independent Polish state, the third bomb falls on Moscow and the fourth one on the largest grouping of Russian troops.
General - ...What?
Envoy - And one last thing. We officially change the name of the operation to Atomic Storm.


Sorry, but I had to react to reading about all this discussion about Polish atomic bombs.

In fact, I don't know if the idea is good or bad. We still haven't seen the whole focus tree, there are stranger things in the focus tree and who knows how it's going to be used at all.

But it sure got a lot of fun.
 
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Is it possible to add an option that prioritizes stockpiling equipment so that they can be used for decisions? It seems to be quite difficult to have any spare guns in the stockpile to take the "seize military equipment" decision after reinforcing all your divisions as Poland in early game.
 
What if instead the focus raised the nuclear research of Polish allies, then? A focus that you take which doesn't pay off for you directly, but indirectly, because it still helps your faction win?
That could be particularly valid for the decryption of the Enigma, although both France and Great Britain did not honor the Polish scientists (Marian Rejewski, Henrik Zygalski, etc.) enough, but used their work.
 
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