CK3 - What's Next?
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"Which will eventually assimilate into local culture as they did historically"
Will this be represented via melting pots or by becoming the local culture? IE: are there going to be Norse-Gaels or will the Norwegians in Dublin just become Irish?
I don't mind if they just fully integrate, but I would like to see some more melting pots.
Will this be represented via melting pots or by becoming the local culture? IE: are there going to be Norse-Gaels or will the Norwegians in Dublin just become Irish?
I don't mind if they just fully integrate, but I would like to see some more melting pots.
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My two cents on it:
Adventures - it seems a thrilling addition, I never played too much with Norse character because I was not so interested in the mere raiding and Scandinavian scenarios. But actually recreating the arrival of Normans to Normandy (and thence to southern Italy) it's a whole different thing.
I'm just worried about balance - in the early days of CK3 Vikings were just OP, and soon enough they would conquer all of France and Britain. Even in my last play through, I had a significant Norse state in Northern Spain, although admittedly it was short-lived.
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Adventures - it seems a thrilling addition, I never played too much with Norse character because I was not so interested in the mere raiding and Scandinavian scenarios. But actually recreating the arrival of Normans to Normandy (and thence to southern Italy) it's a whole different thing.
I'm just worried about balance - in the early days of CK3 Vikings were just OP, and soon enough they would conquer all of France and Britain. Even in my last play through, I had a significant Norse state in Northern Spain, although admittedly it was short-lived.
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"You can decide to send your son to the Varingian guard" - Biz major update confirmed?
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Should we tell them the absolute mess Sweden was in in both 867 and 1066 when compared to Denmark or let them live in innocent bliss?
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Question: will the flavor pack come alongside any new steam achievements?
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Despite the game name, crusader kings are not a central point in the game.Oh, thats dissapointing, the Norse are already buffed, and now will be even more central for a game about CRUSADER KINGS
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Really excited about Adventures and hope it's eventually opened to more tribal groups since it is a more expansive version of the Magyar Migration CB.
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Great news! Nice features, imo scaled up to flavor pack's assumable size (on the other hand you set yourself the bar really high for major DLC right now ). Really looking forward for adventure mechanics, reworked legacies and new events Excited!
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Also, the 'North Sea Empire' was never a real de jure empire. It was three independent kingdoms ruled in personal union by one monarch and when that monarch (Cnut the Great) died, Norway, Denmark and England each had their own separate rulers. The 'empire' was actually just one guy owning three kingdom titles and those titles ceased to be united beyond his lifetime.
The stuff in the free patch and existing mods are better than the $7 flavour pack.
The stuff in the free patch and existing mods are better than the $7 flavour pack.
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Community Flavour Pack. Introduces a whole range of historically-accurate and great looking clothing, crowns, armour and other cosmetics unique to certain cultures.
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Crusades are quite OP and the entire fundamentals of the game are built around a caricature of High Medieval France. I'm sure the crusaders are going to do just fine. I wouldn't want a DLC focusing on major content for Catholics/Byzzies to be a Flavor Pack anyway. Means less content.Oh, thats dissapointing, the Norse are already buffed, and now will be even more central for a game about CRUSADER KINGS
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It should be, but there are also many interesting cultures in this time period and they wasted the first flavor DLC in the meme that the Vikings are. Muslims, Bizantines and even the Nomadic hordes deserved priority over them.
They could have balanced the Crusade/GHW mechanics while giving us some flavor, but i agree with you anyways... but my disappointment over having another "vIkAnG" DLC/game/whatever is more of a personal thing that a real issue for me. I was expecting something more interesting.
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You could also say that a couple of CK2 mods (GOT, HIP, CK2+) are also worth MUCH more than any CK2 dlc. And you'd be right.
Good thing is how this is completely optional. Even better thing is how Paradox apparently learned from mistakes from CK2 dlc. As in, they are not making full features and releasing them alongside regional content. You had to buy Legacy of Rome, if you wanted retinues. LoR was a minor dlc, focused around a very specific region, but it had a feature which was very impactful for everyone on the map. Meaning, you absolutely had to buy LoR.
With Northern Lords, you can just say: "meh, I don't care about Vikings." and simply not purchase it.
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Byzantines are the perfect candidates for a culture flavor pack (their special mechanics wouldnt really suit well anybody outside them, so i doubt would be used in a major expansion), so i have the feeling the second flavor pack will be them
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The Steam page for Northern Lords states it comes with Steam achievements, unlike CK2's cosmetic DLC. If wouldn't say it confirms new achievements, but I would think it's likely.
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Can't say I disagree. I vikinged myself out in CK2. They know it's an easy sell though. And besides, this is only a Flavor Pack. I wouldn't feel satisfied if they covered Western Catholics, Byzantines, or West Asian Muslims in a small thing like this. There's no way it would do them justice.
Though I'll disagree that the game should focus primarily on crusades (because frankly I'm also bored of them) and there's a whole interesting world to explore. Which lends to your point that it probably shouldn't have been the norse first.
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I'm fine with this. I'm still bitter i was forced to buy Jade Dragon just for the very neat ducal conquest casus belli unlocked to everyone
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