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Stellaris Dev Diary #186: Necroid Ships & the Art process

Hello everyone!

My name is Fredrik Toll, and I am the Art Director for Stellaris. For this week's dev diary, we wanted to give you an insight into the development process of creating the ships for the Necroids Species Pack.

Let’s dig right into it!

Designing a new Ship Set
After settling on the theme, the first thing we do when embarking on designing a new ship-set for a species pack, is going through the core ideas of the species pack with our internal team of concept artists. In this case it was centered around the theme of death, and the various species who have cheated it. After the brief, we had everyone write down their association and ideas for this theme to know what everyone is thinking. This allows us to align more what it’s all about, share ideas, and inspire each other. By doing that we are able to highlight what is more important and what does not fit with the theme.

After this we do a search for visual reference to use in the concept process. These can be anything from patterns, statues, tiny objects, to buildings, whatever inspires us visually in connection to the theme. We look mostly for shapes, but also materials. Architecture is usually a great source of inspiration, they have great shapes, and a scale suitable for ship details. We try to avoid using other existing ships as reference since we want to develop something original, not just a variant of others, though they can still be a reference, if only to show what we don't want.
For Necroids we looked a lot at Art Deco and brutalist architecture, tombs, pyramids, as well as skulls, fossils and many other things. After reviewing and discussing the references we start sketching, going wide, anything goes. Sometimes they align a lot with our references, other times ideas come from nowhere, it’s all part of the process. This leads to a whole lot of Ship designs ideas. Here are a handful of those.

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Ultimately we settled on these two references as our direction. They felt like something far away from existing ships, as well as fitting well with the theme.

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Developing the Style
These ships are only the start though. Once we have chosen one of the styles we did in our initial look development. We have to flesh out what those mean. These are just side-views, they do not tell you everything you know, in fact, opinions of how to interpret it can differ significantly. So we need to figure that out, as well as adapting it for the demands of the game, such as having sections, having turrets etc.

Usually we start with the Cruiser, since it’s a good mid-size ship close enough to all ships sizes that it’s relevant for all designs. You also have a fallback option, if it turns out that it looks too big, you can just use it for the battleship. If it turns out too small it will be the destroyer or corvette. Here you can see a few of the concepts from the process. It looks pretty straightforward, but it takes a lot of back and forward before we nail it down.

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Creating the Concepts
Once you have the style narrowed down, it’s time to make all the actual concepts for each and every ship. Even though the style is figured out, each ship is a bit unique and each of them present new challenges, and new parts of the style to figure out. The civilian ships are different from the military ships. Each of the military types ships has a different size, and the style differs significantly from the corvette to the juggernaut. Each of the civilian ships has a very unique design and they have more in common with some stations than they do with each other. The construction ship and the mining station often share traits, as do the science ship and the research station.

Here are two different examples.
The science ship for instance, has a much more high tech appearance than the other ships. The process is made easier though from the work we have done on previous shipsets. Some standards have been set, the science ship for instance usually has a more “cool” appearance with a more streamline almost racing type ship. This helps us know where to aim, and apply the style on that.
Sometimes it's pretty straightforward – Let’s take the example of the Science Ship. First we start by making a couple of rough versions, then choose one of those versions, then make some more versions based on that one. We then continue the process by once again choosing one of them, refining the details to finish the design, and in the end we create an asset sheet. The asset sheet is for the 3D artist to model, and know where to apply which material. It speeds up their work a lot and makes sure everything is consistent.

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Another example would be the construction ship. They are very bulky, usually described as a cargo hold with engines, and a bridge. Here we made some initial concepts. One of them we felt looked like a good idea for a transport so we got that idea for free.

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There are so much more we would like to show. But as you can see here, there are several hundred images in this process.

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Ship modelling
After we are done with the concept art for all the assets, they are sent to the 3D artists. Figuring out a design in 3D while you are building the ships is very time consuming, so the idea is that the concepts are clear enough that the 3D artists can mostly trace the concept. There is still a fair bit that needs figuring out as you are building the ships, but the concept art does save an enormous amount of time.

That being said, sometimes the concept artist uses quick 3D models in the concept art phase. Figuring out a design purely in your head is very hard. So making a rough model of your idea, then doing some paint-over on top a screenshot can save a lot of time. The difference is that these models are not fit to use in game, since they are not modelled properly or economically.

Usually we have a 3D artist join the team in the concept phase though. As soon the first ship concept is finalized and the style is set we build that ship, and start working on the materials. We do some concept work for the materials as well, but you only really get a feel for it when you can move the camera around, and see how the lighting moves across the hull of the ship.

The Final Results
Then follows several months of 3D modeling, once done, we rig them for animation, export them to the game, and add particle effects. And finally, here are some examples of the finished ships:

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These look stunning. The art team has made a beauty - again.


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But let me get this straight... You did put a dev diary with artwork this great on line while the forum is on fire? After the last dev diary got derailed into oblivion? And not once - not even a single line about how broken the game is and what the rest of the team is doing about this?

I mean, all we're asking for is a single line a la "we're aware of the issues that some of you have with the current state of the base game. We're putting this dev diary about art here for reasons. Next week we'll have something to say about that - please stay on topic here."

I can't believe this.
 
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Nice work art team you may be the only ones (and the music team) that give some potential to this broken game. But you will not have my money here.

I admit i was expecting for news about the patch not more fluff. An obvious reaction from the company and a true statement about the state of this game i guess.
 
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You are wizards! This is so cool.
Could you include the concept art in the DLC? Like with the game's art book? Because I *do* want to see those hundreds of images.

no, please, my hard drive can't handle that
 
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I'm very disappointed, the art looks good, but we did not get EVEN one thing about "we are working on the gameplay issues, most of them will be address in the next DD.".
Nah, I'm out of here. I wanted to buy CK3 but nope.
I don't want to have anything with a company that entirely ignores it's player base.
 
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Purchased every DLC that Stellaris has to offer. The ship set is nice, there is no denying...but I will not be purchasing this DLC (or any thereafter) until underlying issue's (that have been explained, ad nauseum) are seen to be taken care of.

The company line will not work for me anymore, and it won't for a number of your customer base. I suspect this DLC will fair poorly in a financial sense compared to it's predecessors and unfortunately that is the result of shrugging off your more discerning clientele for a period of years. I am not saying you should not have posted a dev diary about the art of the next story pack or whatever this is, but I am saying that accompanying it with a message for the concerned demographic of your playerbase may have been wise considering the social climate on your own forums.
 
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Oh, wow. These ships are really beautiful, and I must admit I never realized how much work was behind the scenes. Keep going with the good work guys from the arts team. You are amazing :)
 
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Props to the art team. Good design.

But let's be honest, this is just filler. This is not a dev diary, this is you showing us how you did the art. This is not an ETA update, this a documentary.

Dev diaries were here for you to share with us new features, struggles, and what we should or should not expect for the future. A roadmap willingly shared that gave us the impression that you actually cared about the community. Now it's just damage control.

Where are the teasers on what we could possibly do with the new species ? Where are the possible balancing tweaks you are planning on ? Where is the AI at ? Where is the performance at ? Share important stuff with us goddamit !

It's all communication now, with no honesty.
 
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Well, looks like the entitled crowd’s out already.

Hey guys, remember when in the HOI4 dev diary about the Abbasid mini mission tree people threw an absolute hissy fit because they chose to believe that nothing was being done to improve the game but what actually happened was Paradox was showing what they thought most people would be interested in? Gee, it’s almost like we’ve been through this situation before! I mean, why would I do the smart thing and wait for patch notes before deciding if Paradox is working on AI and whatnot when I could be mad now!

It’s ridiculous how impatient you people are.
 
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When we will get any informations about crisis AI, military AI, performance, and other popular issues?

Soon™.

We have a number of different topics we're looking into, but we won't be talking about them in more detail right now. We don't want to deploy something too risky along with the species pack, but when we make progress in something it's likely to find its way to a public beta branch sometime after that.
 
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*2 years have passed*
Someone on the forum: "It’s ridiculous how impatient you people are"
*2 more years have passed*
Someone on the forum: "It’s ridiculous how impatient you people are"
*2 more years have passed*
No one goes to the forum anymore
 
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Soon™.

We have a number of different topics we're looking into, but we won't be talking about them in more detail right now. We don't want to deploy something too risky along with the species pack, but when we make progress in something it's likely to find its way to a public beta branch sometime after that.
no offence, but it's been 2 YEARS of "we are looking into", at this point i would like more info of what is going on
 
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To "Aerie" ( Art Director ): The ship-/ and station-models look good so far, even if I haven't seen all of them yet.
To "Anyone" who's collecting feedback: Again, the ship-/ and station-models look good. That doesn't mean that this is positive feedback in regards to the "Necroids"-DLC ( or Stellaris ) as a whole.

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We don't want to deploy something too risky along with the species pack, but when we make progress in something it's likely to find its way to a public beta branch sometime after that.
And BAAAM ...
So basically we should not expect a meaningful patch together with Necroids becuse "that would be too risky".
My thoughts exactly and on top of that: The first half of this phrase doesn't even make it clear whether any progress was "already" made at all. Like if it's "just" delayed for the update that's accompanied with DLC number 13 aka the one after "Necroids", right ? In fact, the second half of this phrase reads just like an "assurance" that any progress hasn't to be on the radar at all. I mean, note especially the words "when" and "likely" in terms of corporate language.
EDIT-END.
 
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