So why does being a hegemon lower your subjects' opinions of you?

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Especially client states. That just seems silly.

Is there any confirmation on if this is WAI?
 
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Proclaiming yourself the dictator of what ever is probably rarely a popular decision. On the other hand, while people might be angry, they likely aren't gonna show it if you have the power to proclaim that uncontested.

So probably gameplay should have the say. At that point in the game, throwing semi arbitrary speed bumps at the player is just annoying.
 
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Especially client states. That just seems silly.

Is there any confirmation on if this is WAI?
Revolt against centralisation as a last ditch effort? The napoleonic kingdom of sicily revolted to keep his crown after he saw which way the wind was blowing, and the German states swapped sides halfway through a battle
 
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It has not been concerned this is WAI or not, but this probably isn't. Clear oversight.
 
Revolt against centralisation as a last ditch effort? The napoleonic kingdom of sicily revolted to keep his crown after he saw which way the wind was blowing, and the German states swapped sides halfway through a battle

The greeks under Alexander were chill for a time, so were the Persians. Genghis Khan subjects aren't exactly remember for taking up arms against the guy while he was still alive.

I point this out because the text for when you become Hegemon directly mentions both of them and how your legacy shall surpass theirs.
 
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It has not been concerned this is WAI or not, but this probably isn't. Clear oversight.

If that was the case, wouldn't it have been addressed in a hotfix already? I imagine an oversight like this would be easy to spot and easy to fix.
 
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I'm pretty sure they adressed the things which provoked the most outrage immediately. This is not the most gamebreaking, and it also took some time to notice it because it requires to be lategame and to play a serious campaign.
 
Revolt against centralisation as a last ditch effort? The napoleonic kingdom of sicily revolted to keep his crown after he saw which way the wind was blowing, and the German states swapped sides halfway through a battle
Hence why subject's liberty desire increases if your army gets wiped and their relative strength to you increases.

But this is not what happened:

Sicily: "Hey, Napoleon."
Napoleon: "Oui?"
Sicily: "You have the strongest army in the world."
Napoleon: "Oui."
Sicily: "Fu*k you."
 
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If that was the case, wouldn't it have been addressed in a hotfix already? I imagine an oversight like this would be easy to spot and easy to fix.

We are playing a game where the AI keeps building coastal forts in every single province and declares wars while 16 000 gold in debt. No, it wouldn't be already fixed.
 
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It's probably a waste of money to playtest anything after 1650. Likely OP is the first player to reach that far since the release of 1.30 ;)
There's diminishing returns the later into the game you get, but the more there is the more will play later, especially if we get less free things and more things that give AE
 
It's probably a waste of money to playtest anything after 1650. Likely OP is the first player to reach that far since the release of 1.30 ;)
The only reason I've not gotten that far yet is because all the other bugs keep making me abandon runs
 
i find that the worst part about this are any newly enforced PUs. The opinion malus makes it that much harder to get their opinion above 0 by the time your king dies.
 
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The thing is, even if you wanted, you usually can't ignore vassals as a hegemony, thanks to colonial nations. Really fun when they all start at - 100 when they form.
 
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