hello
playing the beta aniversary patch (had the performance lag issue) and i've reached the end game (sorta) for the first time ( have gone past this date before, but relatively new to the game and had put back the end dates while i was learning the mechanics)
i thought i was getting okay at this game, then war in heaven hit and well i guess not.
playing as united earth and had 3 fleets each about 75k strong. the FEs in the galaxy were only superior, nothing epic.
Now i have expanded around one of the FE and the other 2 on the far side of the galaxy.
the one by me awoke, okay, not to bad i thought, lets build some bastions nearby in chock points and strengthen my fleets. Started to build a 4th fleet and playing the waiting game on upgrading things.
of course, that would have been far to simple, AE has a FE on far side of galaxy it has history with so we get war in heaven. This kicks in waaaaay before i have finished preparing for it.
options for what to do pop up, I'm in a strongish position, and have a very strong ally to the south of me, a vassel guarding my north border and i have a federation with 2 other empires nearby
was a bit confused about the options, doesn't really explain the results of it (to be discovered for yourself i guess)
i had surrender to one AE
join the other AE in some peace declaration,
refuse to get involved
now, the aggressive AE is the one bordering me, but with my allies, and strong position i thought, i'll give it a go and joined the 'nice' AE (i assume, not sure of the end results)
and this is where everything goes downhill.
my federation ends with absolutely no warning or information about this (i only noticed when one of my 'close' partners invaded my space) the galaxy splits into three different factions which seems intended, but it though me a curveball with basically everyone in my federation except my vassel going the other way (there goes that lovely 400 ship fereation fleet that would have been handy right about now)
and then things get worse. The 'nice' AE who i sided with decides to declare war on the non alligned league and declares on its strongest member, who just happens to be my southern neighbour who i have a defensive pact with. so i get called into the war. I am now somehow at war with both AE (one of whom i'm also allied with in the war against the other - this seems dodgy to me)
at this point the AE by me sends in a fleet with 175k (where did that come from!) i send all 3 of my fleets (i have gateways so this is easy enough) with a total of 75k each - 225k- and get curb stomped each fleet is reduced to about 12k and retreats, and i didn't kill a single ship! those strike craft are a whole different game when massed like that! otherwise i had retrofitted fairly well the aw uses physical weapons, so i had gone all armour and was balanced defensively. Pretty sure i just got overwhelmed by the strike craft, but still, i didn't take out a single ship!
What are my options here? my former federation friends are attacking my northern border (which is very soft as i never saw any need to strengthen it) i had an alloy income of about 400 per month which considering the damage my fleets took is probably low, and the entire galaxy more or less is at war with me. Including the other AE who is both at war and allied to me!
heres a map for interest
photecian state was the ally
looking at the map, actually only one of my federation partners is at war with me, but the federation definately disolved (fed partners were the two small states just north, one in red other in grey
grey mass to the left hand side are my vassel, and the chosen of lorongia at the top are a random empire i have never really interacted with
yellow is the other AE who i am both at war with and allied to. The other AE is at the bottom but mostly lost in all that red. finally there is a third FE who seems to be pretty content to watch this all go on around them
playing the beta aniversary patch (had the performance lag issue) and i've reached the end game (sorta) for the first time ( have gone past this date before, but relatively new to the game and had put back the end dates while i was learning the mechanics)
i thought i was getting okay at this game, then war in heaven hit and well i guess not.
playing as united earth and had 3 fleets each about 75k strong. the FEs in the galaxy were only superior, nothing epic.
Now i have expanded around one of the FE and the other 2 on the far side of the galaxy.
the one by me awoke, okay, not to bad i thought, lets build some bastions nearby in chock points and strengthen my fleets. Started to build a 4th fleet and playing the waiting game on upgrading things.
of course, that would have been far to simple, AE has a FE on far side of galaxy it has history with so we get war in heaven. This kicks in waaaaay before i have finished preparing for it.
options for what to do pop up, I'm in a strongish position, and have a very strong ally to the south of me, a vassel guarding my north border and i have a federation with 2 other empires nearby
was a bit confused about the options, doesn't really explain the results of it (to be discovered for yourself i guess)
i had surrender to one AE
join the other AE in some peace declaration,
refuse to get involved
now, the aggressive AE is the one bordering me, but with my allies, and strong position i thought, i'll give it a go and joined the 'nice' AE (i assume, not sure of the end results)
and this is where everything goes downhill.
my federation ends with absolutely no warning or information about this (i only noticed when one of my 'close' partners invaded my space) the galaxy splits into three different factions which seems intended, but it though me a curveball with basically everyone in my federation except my vassel going the other way (there goes that lovely 400 ship fereation fleet that would have been handy right about now)
and then things get worse. The 'nice' AE who i sided with decides to declare war on the non alligned league and declares on its strongest member, who just happens to be my southern neighbour who i have a defensive pact with. so i get called into the war. I am now somehow at war with both AE (one of whom i'm also allied with in the war against the other - this seems dodgy to me)
at this point the AE by me sends in a fleet with 175k (where did that come from!) i send all 3 of my fleets (i have gateways so this is easy enough) with a total of 75k each - 225k- and get curb stomped each fleet is reduced to about 12k and retreats, and i didn't kill a single ship! those strike craft are a whole different game when massed like that! otherwise i had retrofitted fairly well the aw uses physical weapons, so i had gone all armour and was balanced defensively. Pretty sure i just got overwhelmed by the strike craft, but still, i didn't take out a single ship!
What are my options here? my former federation friends are attacking my northern border (which is very soft as i never saw any need to strengthen it) i had an alloy income of about 400 per month which considering the damage my fleets took is probably low, and the entire galaxy more or less is at war with me. Including the other AE who is both at war and allied to me!
heres a map for interest
photecian state was the ally
looking at the map, actually only one of my federation partners is at war with me, but the federation definately disolved (fed partners were the two small states just north, one in red other in grey
grey mass to the left hand side are my vassel, and the chosen of lorongia at the top are a random empire i have never really interacted with
yellow is the other AE who i am both at war with and allied to. The other AE is at the bottom but mostly lost in all that red. finally there is a third FE who seems to be pretty content to watch this all go on around them