Perhaps the German fleet will simply hoist the white flag and sail to London? Anyone?
Perhaps they'll finally notice they went bankrupt some time ago? Perhaps.
Perhaps the German fleet will simply hoist the white flag and sail to London? Anyone?
Nazi Germany would never go bankrupt.Perhaps they'll finally notice they went bankrupt some time ago? Perhaps.
Nazi Germany would never go bankrupt.
Implode into a catastrophic mess of shortages, riots, starvation and inflation? Yes, and that's at least two years over-due. But they didn't have many foreign currency liabilities, so I think they'd avoid formal bankruptcy on a technicality.
That's what reparations are for.When they lose, can we then say they went bankrupt to take all their stuff?
That's what reparations are for.
Didn't really use them as they weren't enforced properly and Germany was allowed to play silly buggers with the printing presses.Nah we can't use reparations. We used that one last time.
Didn't really use them as they weren't enforced properly and Germany was allowed to play silly buggers with the printing presses.
This time we must go full Morgenthau Plan, it's the
only way to be sure.
Once this story had the British make zero reaction to the enormous German and Italian naval build up we passed the point of any possible attachment to reality.
A brave effort, but it is impossible to suspend disbelief that much.Well the Germany naval buildup was mostly Battlecruisers, and most of them are the 11 inch Sharnhorst class. The Royal Navy still holds a massive numerical superiority in every other type of ship so one could, with some suspension of disbelief and assumption of some British political squabbles, see the Royal Navy think that they still retained naval supremacy against Germany and therefore any additional buildup of the already massive Royal Navy would be... unneeded.
Oh dear, what a lackluster showing by the RN. And over the tattered remnants of the Polish navy, no less. Perhaps they will learn from this and not make such blunders again? Perhaps the German fleet will simply hoist the white flag and sail to London? Anyone?
At this rate, being an island will end up being very inconvenient for the Brits. The numerical superiority is still there however, so hopefully they can put it to good use, at least good enough to give us a show. Would be a shame to have all those hulls and just... fade away bit by bit. Nay, if British dominance of the seas must end, at least let it end with the thunder of guns and crashes of steel! They deserve no less.
Perhaps they'll finally notice they went bankrupt some time ago? Perhaps.
Nazi Germany would never go bankrupt.
Implode into a catastrophic mess of shortages, riots, starvation and inflation? Yes, and that's at least two years over-due. But they didn't have many foreign currency liabilities, so I think they'd avoid formal bankruptcy on a technicality.
When they lose, can we then say they went bankrupt to take all their stuff?
That's what reparations are for.
Nah we can't use reparations. We used that one last time.
Didn't really use them as they weren't enforced properly and Germany was allowed to play silly buggers with the printing presses.
This time we must go full Morgenthau Plan, it's the only way to be sure.
A brave effort, but it is impossible to suspend disbelief that much.
Bear in mind that Germany is not just building up a fleet, but building up the exact 'Freak Fleet' the Admiralty was most concerned about. Fast battlecruisers that can easily out-run a WW1 veteran battleship and out-fight a Treaty heavy cruisers, fleet optimised light cruisers and a huge U-boat arm - this is not a fleet for re-fighting Jutland but for raiding and hit-and-run against isolated portions of the Royal Navy. The Anglo-German Naval Agreement exists purely to stop that happening and force Germany into a conventional fleet build, because that can be countered by the existing fleet and because a conventional naval arms race is something Germany has to lose - she cannot afford to neglect her army and physically cannot produce enough steel (and everything else) to do both.
Then we have Italy building all four Littorios with a pair of da Vincis as well, any of which is more than a match for an 'R' or un-modernised Queen Elizabeth and can easily outrun a Nelson. Bearing in mind that I believe Anglo-French relations are terrible at this point so the UK cannot rely on the French Fleet to help secure the vital Med supply lines, making further demands for modern ships to counter that threat, demands which were never really present in OTL until war had already broken out (first Littorio commissioned in May 1940 in OTL)
And in this terrible scenario, which has been blindingly obvious and indeed boasted about for the last 6 years, we are supposed to believe that the Royal Navy has built nothing? Not nothing extra, but no capital ships at all - Britain hasn't even matched the OTL build up. As a former mining engineer let me assure you there is not enough lead in the world to produce sufficient lead-paint laced tea for this to ever be possible.
As I have indicated previously, no pretence of realism can be made at this point and it would be churlish to attempt it. Let us instead put aside such trivial concerns and instead enjoy the excellent writing and wonderful graphics as the world is relentlessly and perfectly painted Grey.
Yeah, theres not much point in being realistic with the fascists (if nothing else because it's in poor taste) so just treat them as very silly magic clowns who can somehow do all this because the game god is literally mid controlling all of them and making resources come from nowhere.
For those who weren't aware: The Morgenthau Plan.
Apart from Operation Vegetarian, which was a wartime "If they use Bio/Chem weapons we will use them back" type plan, I'm unsure what you are referring to. Do elaborate as it sounds intriguing.This isn't even the nastiest plan the Allies came up with. This is just the nastiest the Americans could do. The british on the other hand had put some thought into slightly more genocidal ways of removing 'the western europe problem' once and for all.
Apart from Operation Vegetarian, which was a wartime "If they use Bio/Chem weapons we will use them back" type plan, I'm unsure what you are referring to. Do elaborate as it sounds intriguing.
Apart from Operation Vegetarian, which was a wartime "If they use Bio/Chem weapons we will use them back" type plan, I'm unsure what you are referring to. Do elaborate as it sounds intriguing.
Those are some disturbing plans indeed. I was mostly joking but fhere was talk also of possibly turning these anti-German war plans into anti-Soviet war plans if the Red Army either didn't stop or took the whole of germany before france could be liberated.
Unfortunately/fortunately if these plans/ideas existed then the british were smart enough to either not write them down or destroy the files (unless some moron kept them and they're in that fabled SAS locker somewhere) so we only have really unreliable and unverifiable oral 'evidence' about it.
Naturally all this was eventually spun into a truly exquisite conspiracy theory where churchill and some other die-hard anti-communists were deliberately holding back throughout the war to give them an excuse to wipe out Russia and germany at the same time. Of course they'd then blame roosevelt for the attack, and they were secretly poisoning him as well because he was a secret communist. Something something restored empire with europe firmly back in the shutter where it belonged, with France ruined and begging for help, germany and russia dead, and everyone else firmly under the allies thumb.
And this isn't even the most insane ww2 conspiracy theory out there. The body double ones are much stranger.
Author's Note: As ever, the AI combined with an absolute crap game system results in wonky outcomes. There is absolutely no reason nor rationale for the RN to have sailed their heavy units into the Kattegat, and indeed, while there were plans drawn up, they were shelved when they figured out that most of the Baltic was too shallow for the draft of the battleships. This was also before I was taking proper notes (ie, screenshots) and so was relying on short hand during gameplay and transcribing the details later (thus, confusion on who was involved and when).
Denmark straits