Wouldn't it make more sense for the Aztec Fascists to believe that the Acatl Dynasty is illegitimate because they were originally Norse, and thus entirely abolish the monarchy?
The Eimerican Federation fell apart after the Weltkrieg, and I don't suppose that Fox wants them anyway.Speaking of the Acatls, have they kept any Norse cultural aspects over the centuries, or are they completely Nahua by the time the Acatls were overthrown? Also, since (I presume) the Aztecs are led by a Nahuatl who isn't descended from the Norse, does that mean that they can join the Eimerican Federation (if it's still intact)?
Malian slave trade wasn't really that big and I didn't mention it much outside of its creation and abolition. It only brought enough Malians to the Eimericas to create jazz and voodoo.I don't recall any mention of a Malian slave trade. I may have just forgotten or never noticed it.
I just thought of something; how are relations in Kanata between the Norse and the natives (if there are any)? I know that Cree has emerged a few times (I think in both EUIV and Vic2), but how are general relations? Is there any syncretism between native pantheons and Norse religion (which, to be completely honest, I think would be a lot cooler than a syncretic religion between the European pagan faiths, seeing as they're all pretty similar, whereas the Native American and Norse faiths have developed completely independently for thousands of years).
Speaking of the Eimericas, how are the Incans under Roman South Eimerica? I know they were persecuted under Angelos, but I recall that they were given rights. I feel like an Inti-Christian religion would be really cool (though probably persecuted by the Inquisition); the God of the Bible could be the same as Inti, with Christ being the Son of Inti (probably also a few elements from Sol Invicta, so they can call God 'The Unconquered Sun')). Again, it would most certainly be persecuted by the Inquisition, but it's a cool idea I think.
While we're talking about colonies, how have the Polynesians been treated by Rome and China? I assume that in Australia (I forgot the Chinese name) the Aboriginals could syncretize their religion with Shendao/Confucianism, but it would be much harder in New Zealand and Hawaii (again, I forgot the Roman names). Have they been converted to Christianity, or is their religion still strong in those areas? Is the Indian population in Western Australia (if there is any) being oppressed by China, or are they generally tolerated?
How is China's Inuit/Native Siberian population? Are there any major independence movements, similar to in Japan? Have their religions been mostly sustained or replaced by the state religion (or syncretized)?
Also, what is the situation in Hokkaido? Are the Ainu still a major group, or have they mostly been replaced by Chinese and/or Japanese people?
EDIT: For Baha'i, you could possibly give him parents of two different religions; maybe his father is Muslim while his mother is Zoroastrian, or vice versa. I'm pretty sure (don't quote me) that in real life, Baha'u'llah claimed descent from both Abraham and Zoroaster, so you could probably work that in. These are just suggestions of course; by no means am I an expert on Baha'i.
I think I should say now that there's a small chance an event will fire turning me into an equalist dictatorship, regardless of how powerful the Hohenzollerns really are. Blame Angelos if that happens.I just don't view it as much of a threat. The Reich will deal with it, hopefully via diplomacy.
Yes, Hirohito = Gandhi. I would rather not invade Japan. I prefer that it get its freedom peacefully.So,Hirohito is some analogue of Gandhi here?If so,I think that Japan would likely to be liberated by somebody of Roman allies,or it will fell to chinese constitutionalism or,worse,barbarian despotism instead of true enlightened absolutism.
P.S.:Is it clear,would generals of USA be part of Reich`s military command?
*cough* Maximists *cough* Iconoclasm *cough* Malcolm Bethune *cough* Sisi/Rudolf/Karl Ludwig/Franz Ferdinand's deathYeah those massive strikes sound like a real fun time for everyone involved. Because, you know, the best thing to do after seeing the violence and bloodshed in the Soviet Commune is to try to install one in the Reich...also, you know, I don't think the Hohenzollerns, who have ruled for 900 years now, are going to be toppled by some idiot equalists that wouldn't know a good thing if it hit them in the face.
Because Mexica society is organized around the huetlatoani, and disposing of him would destroy their legitimacy as the Alliance has no republican tradition. There is no other noble dynasty qualified to take the position.Wouldn't it make more sense for the Aztec Fascists to believe that the Acatl Dynasty is illegitimate because they were originally Norse, and thus entirely abolish the monarchy?
They lost their Norse heritage and are completely Nahua, since only their founder and his son were Norse. But they still remember their origins.Speaking of the Acatls, have they kept any Norse cultural aspects over the centuries, or are they completely Nahua by the time the Acatls were overthrown? Also, since (I presume) the Aztecs are led by a Nahuatl who isn't descended from the Norse, does that mean that they can join the Eimerican Federation (if it's still intact)?
The Federation is dead. Tawantinsuyu had to withdraw because of internal issues, meaning it's just Fox and Mayapan. Fox doesn't want any Mexica in its federation anyways, as they're blamed for conquering almost all of the Eimericas and oppressing most of its people. It's not that the Acatls are descended from Vikings, it's that the Nahua people betrayed their Eimerican heritage by trying to subjugate and oppress their neighbors (as well as causing the Reich and Scandinavia to seek vengeance for the Sunset Invasion by colonizing the Eimericas).The Eimerican Federation fell apart after the Weltkrieg, and I don't suppose that Fox wants them anyway.
*cough* Maximists *cough* Iconoclasm *cough* Malcolm Bethune *cough* Sisi/Rudolf/Karl Ludwig/Franz Ferdinand's death
Also the Rurikids were in power for almost a thousand years but they still fell.
And did anybody catch who my Mexica fascist leader is?
Maximists
AM I THE ONLY ONE HEREYes, Hirohito = Gandhi. I would rather not invade Japan. I prefer that it get its freedom peacefully.
Yes. Glorious Nippon must be free from scoundrellous Chinese dogs.AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE
THAT THINKS CHINA SHOULD CONTROL JAPAN!
Actually,I have a perfect idea about restoring justice on Ukrainian land in HOI3 part(based on United Baltic State example):Malian slave trade wasn't really that big and I didn't mention it much outside of its creation and abolition. It only brought enough Malians to the Eimericas to create jazz and voodoo.
Cree was the last to resist Kanatan expansion and survived into around the 1820s before I killed it with console for neat borders. Most natives in Kanata have converted to Norse (a few tribes converted in EU4 before they were conquered). Kanatan Odinism is slightly different from Scandinavian Odinism (think Mexican vs. Spanish Catholicism) and has incorporated a few native customs. In rural areas where natives still exist in large numbers native religions survive, though heavily influenced by Odinism (think trickster god = Loki, raven = Odin).
Tawantinsuyuans under Neu Rhomania have gotten more rights after Angelos stepped down as Regent. They now have citizenship and the right to keep their customs without persecution. It's a bit too soon for syncretism to occur, but if it does there's already enough real life mythology to create syncretism: there is the creator deity Viracocha, who sent a flood to wipe out humanity but warned his grandson Manco Capac and his wife so that they would survive and establish Incan civilization. Viracocha's son Inti then taught civilization to Manco Capac and the Quechua people. The Christian elements involve Inti sacrificing himself for the Quechua people's sins, after which he rose as the "unconquered sun," split into a trinity of sorts- Apu Inti (the father), Churi Inti (the son), and Inti Wawqi (the brother), representing the three diurnal stages of the sun. As long as it is mostly on the Inti side and does not claim to be a branch of Christianity the Inquisition would be okay with it and recognize it as a legitimate religious practice.
Australia has several names: Penglai (the name of a legendary island in Chinese mythology that was then applied to the continent), Aozhou (the name of the Chinese colonial administration after the deposition of the Song dynasty), and Nanzhou ("South Land," or the name given to the region by the original Song refugee fleet). In the EU4 update where I explained the Song exiles' backstory, I mentioned heavy syncretism between Buddhism/Confucianism and aboriginal beliefs (here's a link to the update). In the Song-colonized South Island of New Zealand the same thing has happened with the Maori. In the North Island (called Mittagsland), the Reich let the Maori keep their way of life and their religion, but the sheer number of German settlers resulted in most of them adopting the German language and Christianity on their own (my way of explaining the 1.15 mechanic which auto-converted the provinces to German culture and Orthodox religion after colonization). German settlers adopted a few Maori customs, and the local German dialect uses a few Maori words, phrases, and slang. Traditional Maori culture and religion, though, are in the minority, just like in real life, although Maori traditions are respected to some degree.
Due to Victoria 2 mechanics, the Hawaii province is called "Adamshaven." In-universe, Adamshaven is the name of the largest city in Hawaii and the place where the first Roman settlers arrived. The islands themselves are still officially referred to as Hawaii. Like with New Zealand, due to EU4 mechanics the islands are 100% German and Orthodox, but in-universe the explanation is the same as with Mittagsland. The German settlers outnumbered the natives so much that the natives simply started speaking German and converting to Christianity on their own, although there are some groups outside the cities and on smaller islands retaining their traditions. Again, the settlers also adopted some Hawaiian customs and use Hawaiian words and phrases in their local dialect.
Western Australia has some Indian settlers. The Chinese government officially does not approve of discrimination against Indians, but due to India's (and the Indian republic's) actions during and after the war it becomes hard for the local administration to prevent Chinese settlers from discriminating against the Indians and pushing them out of their homes.
In one of my 1870s or 1880s updates, I mentioned that the Siberian natives suffered a similar fate as their real life counterparts and the African natives did. They were mostly forced to convert to Confucianism/Shendao and speak Chinese. In addition, thousands of Chinese, Mongol, and Japanese settlers have taken many of their homes. Siberian traditions still persist in small amounts in the far north, along the Arctic coast, but mostly in a Sinicized form. The Inuits have received a similar treatment, although in the far north of Fusang they've mostly been left alone because it's so far away from major population centers.
Last I checked, the Ainu still dominated Hokkaido, though there is a significant Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Mongol minority in all of the Ainu provinces. I should also mention that the southern half of Sakhalin is majority Mongol for some reason, as is either Seoul or a random province near Seoul.
While I see no problem for Baha'u'llah's father being Muslim, I would think that it's very impractical as Muslims and Zoroastrians have effectively switched places here compared to real life Iran and in this Persia Muslims would not be allowed to take the government positions that Baha'u'llah's father had. He can be descended from Abraham without a Muslim parent (he claimed to be twice descended from Abraham and regularly descended from Zoroaster). Perhaps his father claims to be a Sayyid but is Jewish/Orthodox Christian, as during CKII I bred the Sayyid and Saoshyant Descendant traits into the Hohenzollern line and from there it spread out to the other noble dynasties. It wouldn't be out of the question for the traits to then make their way into the local population, especially in Persia.
I think I should say now that there's a small chance an event will fire turning me into an equalist dictatorship, regardless of how powerful the Hohenzollerns really are. Blame Angelos if that happens.
Yes, Hirohito = Gandhi. I would rather not invade Japan. I prefer that it get its freedom peacefully.
Possibly, depending on how conversion goes, as I already have more than enough Victoria 2 leaders to convert over. I may include the most important ones (Patton, MacArthur, Eisenhower) if I can work out a backstory for them.
*cough* Maximists *cough* Iconoclasm *cough* Malcolm Bethune *cough* Sisi/Rudolf/Karl Ludwig/Franz Ferdinand's death
Also the Rurikids were in power for almost a thousand years but they still fell.
Because Mexica society is organized around the huetlatoani, and disposing of him would destroy their legitimacy as the Alliance has no republican tradition. There is no other noble dynasty qualified to take the position.
They lost their Norse heritage and are completely Nahua, since only their founder and his son were Norse. But they still remember their origins.
Yaquica is a self-styled "pure Nahua," but Fox won't tolerate a totalitarian ultranationalist dictatorship on its border, especially if it's the Triple Alliance, which basically claims all of the real life American South (over half of Fox) as its core territories.
The Federation is dead. Tawantinsuyu had to withdraw because of internal issues, meaning it's just Fox and Mayapan. Fox doesn't want any Mexica in its federation anyways, as they're blamed for conquering almost all of the Eimericas and oppressing most of its people. It's not that the Acatls are descended from Vikings, it's that the Nahua people betrayed their Eimerican heritage by trying to subjugate and oppress their neighbors (as well as causing the Reich and Scandinavia to seek vengeance for the Sunset Invasion by colonizing the Eimericas).
And did anybody catch who my Mexica fascist leader is?
Yes. Glorious Nippon must be free from scoundrellous Chinese dogs.
Hindenburg said:“Imperial Government is being attacked. Let all good citizens whose livelihood and labour have thus been put in peril bear with fortitude and patience the hardships with which they have been so suddenly confronted. Stand behind the Government, who are doing their part, confident that you will cooperate in the measures they have undertaken to preserve the liberties and privileges of the people of these lands. The laws of the Reich are the people’s birthright. The laws are in your keeping. You have made the Hohenzollerns their guardian. The General Strike is a challenge to the Hohenzollerns and is the road to anarchy and ruin.”
Is it Balbo? It looks like Balbo.
Exactly my point. Hence why the equalist takeover event has a very low chance to happen. The Hohenzollerns would simply come back eventually.And how long did those last individually? And who took over again afterwords anyway? And the Maximists barely count, they claimed to be supporting a Hohenzollern claim on the throne anywayy
I recognize the image but couldn't put a name to a face and don't feel like trying to backtranslate the name.
Nice try, everyone, but it's none of them. I can say that he loved to annoy Americans though.I've only been able to find one picture of him (and it isn't very good), but is it Tomás Garrido Canabal? He was a fascist politician in Mexico at around this time period. Of course, seeing how Stalin is the Ecumenical Patriarch and Hirohito is this world's equivalent of Gandhi, I'm probably completely wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomás_Garrido_Canabal
OH NO YOU DON'T HIROHITO!
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IM NOT GOING TO LET YOU RUIN THE ONE GOD DAMNED AAR IN WHICH CHINA HAS CONTROL OVER JAPAN!
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No, I think Korea should control Japan, for maximum irony.Yes. Glorious Nippon must be free from scoundrellous Chinese dogs.
I'll see what I can do about that, but as it is I need the Soviets to remain intact into NWO, so I'm not just going to invade and destroy them immediately. That wouldn't make for a good plot.Actually,I have a perfect idea about restoring justice on Ukrainian land in HOI3 part(based on United Baltic State example):
Soviet Commune is divided on actual Russia (Leningrad capital) and Ruthenia (Kiev capital,territories of Ukraine and Belarus).Foreign minister reports about crisis in Ruthenia,League of Nations orders to separate actual Ukrainian provinces from Ruthenia(with new capital in Minsk) and giving it to Reich.In it`s turn,Reich says that upkeep this land would be costly to Romans,so instead Ukraine as puppet is created,with capital in Kiev,and UKR tag(Tsarist Russia meanwhile returns to Svitjod from 1915-1916 period of Weltkrieg).
Events:"Dawn of new nation","Ryurikids return to Kiev","Svitjod get independent from Russian opressors".
In NWO continuation:we have Ukraine with Ukrainian culture and on right place,Belarus(also Belarussian culture and true capital),and Russia(on place of old Soviet Commune`s Russian&Yavdi lands)
Governments:Ukraine - enlightened absolutism of Tsarist Russian example(Ukrainizers (conservative) ruling party and Military-Industrial Complex priority)
Belarus and Russia - republics of Kerensky`s Russia example (before equalist coup)
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Well,I guess that Mexican generals will be copy of actual Italian(if new Mexican leader is true Balbo)
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Is my idea above impossible?
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They should be fixed now. For some reason the forum deleted all of my uploaded images, so I had to go upload them again.A lot of the images are not showing properly.
If they weren't equalist, they would be following Norse paganism, as most converted to Norse paganism shortly before being annexed by Kanata in EU4 and the last time I checked all of the revolter states here are Norse pagan. Officially every equalist regime, like communist dictatorships in real life, is atheist.Well then, now that I can see the update... that was interesting.
Two great powers in the Eimericas, Fox and Kanata, have fallen. The world of HOI is going to be very different from the world at the end of EUIV; already, Russia, Scandinavia, India, Fox, and Kanata have fallen, and many new nations have risen in their stead. This will be a very different world indeed.
For the various nations that declared independence from Kanata (Cree, Seven Republics, etc.), are they mostly following traditional Native American beliefs or Norse paganism? Or are they atheist (actually, now that I think about it, I don't think atheism has been mentioned; is there atheism in this world?), seeing how they're equalist?
We could see the Aztecs rise back to power soon as well; that would be unexpected, but it would be cool. And, tying into the dragon discussion earlier, the Chinese dragon may be better than the Japanese dragon, but tell me; are either better than the dragon of Mexica (hint: no)?