So let it be written, so let it be done.
Unvote Dadarian
Vote Alxeu
Care to join me, Dadarian?
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So let it be written, so let it be done.
Unvote Dadarian
Vote Alxeu
Care to join me, Dadarian?
With 2.5 hours to go, I have:
Arkasas: 4
Sleepyhead [53]
Cliges [61]
Korona [62]
Ironhead [58 Wagonlitz -> 93]
Dadarian: 3
Aedan [52]
Nautilu [54]
Rovsea [72]
aedan: 3
Esemesas [49]
Madchemist [85]
Lemeard [86 Dadarian -> 87]
Alxeu: 2
Bagricula [68 Dadarian -> 121]
Dadarian [51 Cliges -> 55 Arkasas -> 122]
Rovsea: 1
Alxeu [59]
Cliges: 1
Arkasas [67 Arkasas -> 71 Cliges]
sexytoes: 1
Wagonlitz [50 Nautilu -> 95]
Wagonlitz: 1
Sexytoes [82 Lemeard -> 97]
Not voted: 0
Arkasas: 4
Sleepyhead [53]
Cliges [61]
Korona [62]
Ironhead [58 Wagonlitz -> 93]
Dadarian: 3
Aedan [52]
Nautilu [54]
Rovsea [72]
aedan: 3
Esemesas [49]
Madchemist [85]
Lemeard [86 Dadarian -> 87]
Alxeu: 2
Bagricula [68 Dadarian -> 121]
Dadarian [51 Cliges -> 55 Arkasas -> 122]
Rovsea: 1
Alxeu [59]
Cliges: 1
Arkasas [67 Arkasas -> 71 Cliges]
sexytoes: 1
Wagonlitz [50 Nautilu -> 95]
Wagonlitz: 1
Sexytoes [82 Lemeard -> 97]
Not voted: 0
You are aware that wolves don't block vote? So if Arkasas is a wolf then other wolves could just as well help him as not help him.
Exactly
Indeed; block voting is probably the worst wolf strategy.
Aedan was the fourth player to vote and he did so less than 1 hour past deadline; lest somebody really messes up pregame there is nothing to go on at that time.
And I am going with a theory; it might be bad, but it is a theory and you have acted rather suspicious with your claims.
Could make sense. Though be aware that these days most activity is around deadline; and that for the last 8--9 hours America has been asleep and Europe working/studying.
Late in the day? I cast my vote on sexytoes this morning---i.e. 12--13 hours to deadline. You think that whoever gets run up in the first few hours should be that days candidate? Because that is the consequence if us Europeans aren't allowed to change votes to new candidates in the European morning.
And there is considerably more of a case against sexytoes than there are against Dadarian or Arky who both were run up randomly and for non game reasons.
And how do I generate an appearance of activity? To make cases and argue them is activity; how many have you made? And casting votes which have no impact on today's outcome? You are aware that deadline hasn't passed yet right? It is detrimental to the game if everybody has to jump to frontrunners after a few hours. We still have several hours to deadline, so there are no throwaways yet.
You are aware he is in the US Army and stationed in Baghdad? He probably cannot access this forum during work hours---which are exactly the hours you critizise him for doing nothing.
I would actually say you are the one who try to generate an appearance of activity. And you appear to try and cast suspicion on people for completely flawed reasons.
What discussion? Show me a single game related argument which has been made in favour of lynching either Dadarian or Arkasas?
All, I'm very unlikely to be around when the line dies. Meetings at that time (this is the middle of my work day).
You accuse me of voting somebody without votes in the middle of the day, because you think that is late. And then you do the same thing in the end of the day on purely random grounds. I had a case; you have nothing.
You appear to be flinging suspicion around and then doing the exact same that you claim to critizise. Is that to avoid being able to be analyzed later in the game?
You seem rather suspicious for that and sexytoes doesn't appear to be taking off, so
Unvote sexytoes
Vote Bagricula
Well, time to go back and see what interesting things y'all have been up to today.
*Sigh*
Do I have to tell every self voter not to do this? Seriously, whether you're a wolf or a villager, this is stupid, as I've explained at least half a dozen times.
...Better. Don't do that again.
That's sort of how day 1 works. When you have no information, people get run up for reasons that have no logic behind them.
Perhaps. There are players who, if they are wolves, are easier to sell out than others, as we saw with jcucc last game. Arky acting like this would most likely be one of them. If Arky dies and turns out to be a wolf, I'd regard voting him as a point in the favor of his voters, but not as big a point in their favor as if it had been someone like marty.
:laugh: Yep, that's Lemeard.
I think he's saying he wants a TIE in order to see who gets saved, not necessarily so that the TIE actually remains at the end of the day. I could be wrong, though.
Dadarian doesn't hate somebody! Amazing!
Right. Arky's vote should not and does not clear him. As for wolves not helping packmates, that's not quite right. Packmates aren't something a wolf can afford to just cast aside, so other things equal, in a close vote they should favor the survival of their packmate. Although there are wolves who don't mind selling out packmates, or at least who don't mind selling out certain packmates.
Maybe. The bandwagon built on him awfully fast. But then again, he's behaving like an idiot.
Which he did last game and was a villager, so yeah. I say meh.
Agreed. Wagon especially seems to me like he's attacking something that I haven't really seen said, and in both cases, the votes are inconsequential at the moment.
Something to keep an eye on, at least.
I'd be good with that.
*Sigh*
Do I have to tell every self voter not to do this? Seriously, whether you're a wolf or a villager, this is stupid, as I've explained at least half a dozen times.
...Better. Don't do that again.
That's sort of how day 1 works. When you have no information, people get run up for reasons that have no logic behind them.
Perhaps. There are players who, if they are wolves, are easier to sell out than others, as we saw with jcucc last game. Arky acting like this would most likely be one of them. If Arky dies and turns out to be a wolf, I'd regard voting him as a point in the favor of his voters, but not as big a point in their favor as if it had been someone like marty.
:laugh: Yep, that's Lemeard.
I think he's saying he wants a TIE in order to see who gets saved, not necessarily so that the TIE actually remains at the end of the day. I could be wrong, though.
Dadarian doesn't hate somebody! Amazing!
Right. Arky's vote should not and does not clear him. As for wolves not helping packmates, that's not quite right. Packmates aren't something a wolf can afford to just cast aside, so other things equal, in a close vote they should favor the survival of their packmate. Although there are wolves who don't mind selling out packmates, or at least who don't mind selling out certain packmates.
Maybe. The bandwagon built on him awfully fast. But then again, he's behaving like an idiot.
Which he did last game and was a villager, so yeah. I say meh.
Agreed. Wagon especially seems to me like he's attacking something that I haven't really seen said, and in both cases, the votes are inconsequential at the moment.
Something to keep an eye on, at least.
I'd be good with that.
Indeed.
I've no particular objection to people switching votes in the time frame you're offering. My point is rather that when there are salient candidates a vote switch ceases to live in a neutral landscape devoid of information. It is my expectation then, that any such vote switch has to work uphill against the existing voting landscape and not merely be thrown to anyone who happens to be around as if at random.
I was not aware of this. I'd assumed his activity would be similar to the last Lite since its deadline was only two hours off from this Lite's. If there is a difference in behavior, it might be explained by a change in his local circumstances (whether that be his work, personal life, or his villager-wolf status).
I'd say I'm rather trying to prod discussion. While the reasons offered are certainly flawed, I'd say 'completely' flawed is reaching.
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Well I read sexytoes' post as if he wanted a TIE. Normally when you say you think somebody else should be TIEd you mean you want a TIE at deadline with somebody else in. And the reason I find the Arkasas statement suspicious is that he seems rather sure that Arkasas is of no value to team wolf; but if he is a wolf Arkasas does have value for team wolf and the way Dadarian went up and also how aedan later took off---and now alxeu---could be an attempt to save Arkasas. Or more likely it is just random pushes. But sexytoes being convinced Arkasas is of no value to the wolves implies he knows Arkasas to be a villager.
Just because somebody already has votes doesn't mean one have to vote them to not be suspicious---especially not half a day to deadline. Also my switch has a case behind it; Arkasas and Dadarian has none what so ever. And neither has alxeu who was singled out for meta reasons. Sure he often is inactive so not bad reasons, but still meta reasons. So to me that statement reads that it is better to cast a vote for some random runner ups instead of trying to speak ones case and try to convince other people of it and to vote who one actually find suspicious.
Was he really that active during Middle Eastern work hours? I don't remember that so; he most certainly didn't send any orders in that time span. But I don't know when he has time during the workday so I will leave that discussion.
OK completely flawed perhaps was streatching it; but I still find your behaviour suspicious.
Arkasas: 4
Sleepyhead [53]
Cliges [61]
Korona [62]
Ironhead [58 Wagonlitz -> 93]
alxeu: 4
Bagricula [68 Dadarian -> 121]
Dadarian [51 Cliges -> 55 Arkasas -> 122]
Madchemist [85 aedan -> 129]
Arkasas [67 Arkasas -> 71 Cliges -> 133]
Dadarian: 3
Aedan [52]
Nautilu [54]
Rovsea [72]
aedan: 2
Esemesas [49]
Lemeard [86 Dadarian -> 87]
Rovsea: 1
Alxeu [59]
Bagricula: 1
Wagonlitz [50 Nautilu -> 95 sexytoes -> 127]
Wagonlitz: 1
Sexytoes [82 Lemeard -> 97]
Not voted: 0
Sleepyhead [53]
Cliges [61]
Korona [62]
Ironhead [58 Wagonlitz -> 93]
alxeu: 4
Bagricula [68 Dadarian -> 121]
Dadarian [51 Cliges -> 55 Arkasas -> 122]
Madchemist [85 aedan -> 129]
Arkasas [67 Arkasas -> 71 Cliges -> 133]
Dadarian: 3
Aedan [52]
Nautilu [54]
Rovsea [72]
aedan: 2
Esemesas [49]
Lemeard [86 Dadarian -> 87]
Rovsea: 1
Alxeu [59]
Bagricula: 1
Wagonlitz [50 Nautilu -> 95 sexytoes -> 127]
Wagonlitz: 1
Sexytoes [82 Lemeard -> 97]
Not voted: 0
You guys remember how we often have talked about how everything seems to end up in linguistics?
Well today at the end of my Advanced Nuclear Physics lecture the lecturer said: And then lets end with some linguistics. And then we ended with looking at a graph and discussing the difference between Swedish 'yr' and Danish 'ør' which both means dizzy. It was because the graph contained the energies of exited states of nuclei as a function of their total momentum; and the steepest line was called the Yrast line; i.e. the dizziest line. It only took a minute, so not really a linguistics discussion, but still shows it can pop up everywhere.
Well today at the end of my Advanced Nuclear Physics lecture the lecturer said: And then lets end with some linguistics. And then we ended with looking at a graph and discussing the difference between Swedish 'yr' and Danish 'ør' which both means dizzy. It was because the graph contained the energies of exited states of nuclei as a function of their total momentum; and the steepest line was called the Yrast line; i.e. the dizziest line. It only took a minute, so not really a linguistics discussion, but still shows it can pop up everywhere.
