National Ideagroups - 22nd of October B - Albania

[Wizzington]

Albania

Traditions
+20% Defensiveness
+10% Manpower Recovery Speed

1. All Lands Under Skanderbeg: +20% Land Forcelimit Modifier
2. Land of Ambushers: +1 Leader Land Manuever
3. Kingdom of Albania: +1 Prestige
4. Hit and Run: -10% Cavalry Cost
5. Land of the Eagles: -10% Stability Cost Modifier
6. Albanian Tolerance: +1 Heretic Tolerance, +1 Heathen Tolerance
7. Break the Princes: +15% Global Manpower Modifier

Ambition
-1% Army Tradition Decay

 

[Knut Skallagrim]

YEAH i knew it would happen, albania! The truly impossible start

 

[CzokletMuss]

Now we have to wait for Albanian WC by DDRJake

 

[Zwirbaum]

Traditions makes start easier for Albania. Paradox pl0x nerf dem na0, let Albania be herp derp difficultz.

(I have no idea why I wrote it. All considered pretty decent NI set.)

 

[987655mm]

Now playing Albania will be a extremely fun thing

 

[herrhals]

Now playing Albania will be a extremely fun thing

fun is relative.. It won't be fun for the 200 restarts needed to finally get started. Once you do get a good start.. then it will be fun.

 

[Mudcrab]

Beautiful.

 

[zephyr7913]

As Ottomans, it might be a good idea to make Albania a march instead of annexation?

 

[Targor]

Finally Albania, too bad I did that already in 1.7.3, won't porbably get around again to soon, but I'm eager too see some other Albanian Empires now they have their own set of ideas.j

 

[Golladan]

As Ottomans, it might be a good idea to make Albania a march instead of annexation?

Not really. They're a OPM against the coast. Not much in the way of defense.

 

[Osman Pasha]

Finally! Nice ideas too

 

[IIWW]

Not really. They're a OPM against the coast. Not much in the way of defense.

And they are Your core, so double nope.

 

[Krajzen]

And they are Your core, so double nope.

And they have no enemy - coring - penalty so triple nope.

 

[Atilla 'The Hun']

Wauw awesome NI's based of defence!

 

[Dakilla TM]

Traditions makes start easier for Albania. Paradox pl0x nerf dem na0, let Albania be herp derp difficultz.

(I have no idea why I wrote it. All considered pretty decent NI set.)

You might be joking but I guarantee you there will be people crying " ALBYNA OP NERF NAO PDOX CUZ ALBYNA BROK GAEM!!! NERF NERF NERF!! ALBYNA WORS DAN FRANCE! TOO OP!!" after losing to Albania in an MP game.

 

[Umega]

So every start up, it will take the Ottomans a few extra months than normal to annex them. The 20% defensive bonus still won't help AI Albania.

 

[Marcus Septim]

originaly i think we survived for a good 12 years against them the ideas are great i do think hostile coring cost should be implemented , we have been conquered more then anyone in history i dare say, for long periods and very few albanians assimilated even nowdays we outside the borders refuse to do so , then we have some others who learned turkish and preted to be ones good targets to joke with , anyways great ideas ty paradox

 

[Panzerschiffe]

What is maneuver going to do now that terrain is static?

 

[Krajzen]

So every start up, it will take the Ottomans a few extra months than normal to annex them. The 20% defensive bonus still won't help AI Albania.

Yes but Albania - at least in my games - strangely seems to revolt and resurrect every 5 minutes from whoever annexes them Now these ideas may make some difference.

I hope Albania will have mountain terrain. Maybe if player does some magical stuff... And Skandenberg entrenches here with mercenary army... With these ideas... And if Ottomans will have also a war on another front... :ninja:


Ehh, if Albania also was divided on 2 provinces... It would help much.


Although not sure if you all know but there is a mod 'Albania's Chance' on the steam workshop which makes Albania having peace with Ottomans in the beginning (and some other small bonuses)

 

[birincikalite]

Any historical reasons for those defense-army oriented ideas, or are they just made up to make players have a chance agaisnt the Ottomans?