How much more prove for the divine mission of the Angeloi can there be than the Angels and Saints talking to one of them!
Oh yes, the treacherous merchants were of almost no importance back then. But like vultures they grew in power while the Europe was bleeding.It disgusts me to see the realm of the blasphemous Kaiser in existence again, but wonderful to see Pisa.
Thank you, these are cool maps and I'll probably use them in EU4 part of this AAR I know that Ptolemy's map isn't perfect but it was good enough for this chapter.Ok, I admit that late medieval maps are not much better than those ( and islamic maps are normally even worse regarding accuracy ), but I think that in this time line and given the expected knowledge you have both about India ( due to have Arabia Felix in hands ) and a vague knowledge about lands to the west of the Atlantic ( the Xenoi have came out of somewhere, after all ), a trunkated version of the Cantino planisphere ( that is, without Southern Africa ) would work well ... atleast India in there is well defined and has the bonus of a "here be dragons" space in the west for future usage
P.S. If Cantino map looks too clean and neat, you can also see Ryusch map of 1507
Why do anything? Let the barbarians kill themselves - it's not like they are Christians after all, so why should Roman blood be spilled to save them?*Proceeds to do absolutely nothing while the xenoi roflstomp Scandinavia* :rofl:
Can't wait for the next part!
That map is supposed to be a late 15th century reconstruction of Ptolemy's map - so highly inaccurate given the knowledge of the time, and even more inaccurate when it comes to which countries actually did exist in the East
And since it's possibly my first post in this AAR, very fine work, congratulations!
Yup, it's Ptolemy's map - and I get it guys, next maps will be better, I promise Thank you very much and welcome!I know, but the issue is that in the context of the game, it is problematic to see someone still using that India and Jerusalem as the center of the Universe ( this one because of the various events the player receives detailing the lands in the west in the same way the Zheng He event comes ). OFC if this was a AAR about some kingdom in western Europe, the map would be fitting enough, though ...
By this I meant, for example, giving Timurids Uzbek culture as their prime one (in vanilla converter they have Mongol which doesn't trigger the "Form Mughals" mission) or changing Sunni provinces in Asia ruled by Timurids in EU4 to Shia (they are Sunni in EU4 and Shia in CK2). Something like this, no bigger changes - I want to change as less as possible to get as faithful representation of Crumbling Europe from CK2 in EU4 as possible. I'll post detailed list of all changes when EU4 will be started.How exactly do you plan on dealing with the culture and religion issues post-conversion? You mentioned modding to keep everything from imploding seven ways till sunday, but what exactly are the specifics?
HRE was Cathar and Germany was Catholic, hence bloody religious wars hundreds of years before Reformation. Yes, Poland was a superpower for a short period of time with Hungary and Aquitaine ruled by House Golovin. Of course, it didn't last for long.Both Germany and the HRE? Those Germans are (were) nuts...
Poland was a power to be reckoned with it seems. Now its just a shadow of its former self...
In my game they sort of formed a Commonwealth, but instead of Lithuania they absorbed Bohemia.
It's very nice to read such kind words - thank you, I really appreciate it Threat of complete annihilation was what made "In the Shadow of Certain, Painful Doom: Abyssinia" so interesting to me two years ago and it was this AAR that get me to buy CK2, so it's even better to hear that I continue the traditionFantastic AAR, one of the best I've ever read.
Most of them tend to devolve into pretty depressive descriptions of steamrolling over new and new enemies after initial setbacks; if the author is good he can make it interesting, but still.
This one is a nice exception - the atmosphere, constant threat of complete annihilation, war against impossible odds that you somehow manage to survive.
Just excellent.
Hmm.The horse-lords of the split tengri empires have discovered your plans to conquer them while they're unstable, and have sent the following reply:
deep breath
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
Also, in regards to your reconquest of moesia, they have the following to day:
"Who do you fink you iz, comin' back and stealin' wot we done rightfully stole from yaz, we'z gonna krump yer gitz gud fer dat!"
Hullo there! I'm glad you enjoyed journey of "Proteus", I hope you won't be dissapointed by this AAR by the time you catch up with the newest chapters In case you don't know: I'm still planning to complete the story of Jeb&crew when 0.25 is released, so it's not the end of my adventures with KSPJust discovered this AAR. Glad to see you're still writing, CzokletMuss; I remember your writing style from elsewhere on the Internet that shall not be linked to because the PI forums have silly rules about linking to external sites as being quite enjoyable. I'm still slogging my way through the earlier chapters (I'm about a quarter of the way through), and it's been an entertainingly grim saga so far.
Hope to see more!
Ahh! The legendary Nosemen fighting against the invaders with their superior smelling sense.
So apparently Scandinavia has been taken over by anthropomorphis sentient noses. Though, with the deadly black magic wielded by the Western Devils, who knows what they can do?
This made my day. :happy:
No, there are Bretons - there was a succesful Breton Company invasion which created (petty excuse for) a Breton state there for several decades. And yes, there are Poles in Aquitaine - after the crusade against Cathar HRE which was won by House Golovin (who, after their conversion from Old Tengri to Catholic, controlled both Poland and Hungary). This particular branch of their dynasty was polonized, so after some time all the nobles were Polish too and to this day Aquitaine's culture is Polish.Interesting to see cultural "Germany" basically meaning Bavaria + Austria, with some enclaves to the west. And are those Wends in much of (historic) Germany's north? Also, though I may have missed it, what are Poles doing in Aquitaine? (and there's something ironic about Castille becoming Aragon)
Aztec and Mongol assimilation is as haphazard as ever, the Croats are surprisingly intact, and I fear for Europe's xenoi population should they ever fall under the Empire's sway. It could get ugly and become a running sore in the EU4 era - can't assimilate without converting (or change demographics through massacring rebellions/inducing emigration) until Victoria 2 (or maybe 3 by the time you get there) and how can you convert them to orthodoxy if orthodoxy claims they don't have souls?
These are excellent questions but I'm afraid I can't answer to them before getting to EU4 part of the story - I have some ideas concerning these things but RNG has a great influence on the story too. So please be patient, they all will be answered one way or another in EU4 part of this AAR.I wonder what the Náhuatlacah is offering its people for migration? Safety from sacrifice? New conquest? New opportunities? Is it getting overcrowed in the horrifying but clearly marvelous city of Tenochtitlán?
Does the Náhuatlacah provide protection to its foreign converts to the One False Faith?
What does the Empire regard the priests who converted? Are they not greater traitors than the normal converts?
Do converts have a soul? Does the Empire acknowledge most of the conversions are based on fear?
What is the secondary capital of the Náhuatlacah? (as in where is its ingame capital?)
Will the glorious empire bring the nahui ollin to the Xenoi?
Does the Náhuatlacah have the Cuauhchicqueh? (Greatest warriors meaning the shorn ones) If they and probably the Otontin are remaining in Tenochtitlán, (say as a personal guard) then the Empire has not seen the full might of the Imperium of the Xenoi. The Tlacochcalcatl, or great generals are only enlisted from this caste, and to become part of the Cuauhchicqueh one must capture many prisoners for sacrifice, and perform many great deeds. So it is likely that the Cuauhchicqueh attacked in the initial invasion (for honor and prestige)they would probably return to Tenochtitlán to become Tlacochcalcatls, which are kind of like Generals and the Praetorian Guard, killing weak Tlatoani.
You are welcome You seem to be well-informed about Nahua - I haven't done my research yet because I wanted to save it for EU4 part of the story, but seeing that you are so knowledgeable about the subject I may have some questions for you in the future BTW, the titles of Tezcatlipoca (obviously false god of xenoi who is nothing compared to Our Lord Iesus Kristos) are really, really impressive!Sorry for the large post, simply interested in how the Aztecs still in America are at this time. With the fall of the Suomi, it is now danger that many more Augusti will be laid to rest by Miccapetlacalli, god of tombs, and Tezcatlipoca, god of darkness will reign over Europe, or as the Xenoi would refer to him as through his 7 epithets: Titlacauan, Ipalnemoani, Necoc Yaotl, Tloque Nahuaque, Yohualli Èecatl, Ome acatl, Ilhuicahua Tlalticpaque (The beast of whom we are slaves, he by whom we live, the enemy of both sides, lord of the near and nigh, night wind, two reed, possessor of the sky and earth)
That wouldn't be a problem - those who are not of a pure blood will be put to work as slaves or in labour camps and the rest will be sterilized and will serve the Imperium as eunuchs. Or they will be simply exterminated, being the filthy soulless subhumans they are.Well, the OP can always say that, after a rigorous scrutiny of their ancestry, most of the population of that place was actually not Xenoi, but only very misguided humans ... or inversely, conversion = repopulation with real humans ( disclaimer : any similarity of the above with the fate of Poland between 1939 and 1945 is pure coincidence :/ )
Thank you! I agree, it may be necessary to ally with Seres in EU4. Assuming that nothing changes on the map and we know that it surely will change - for worse.A long and great update. News good - the Tetrarchy is once again fully restored in Roman hands, Moesia almost completely reincorporated, the Iron Khan dead - but also, of course, bad - the ever-onwards march of the Xenoi and, a double-edged sword, the shattering of the Hordes. Now that the Aztecs have a path to the east, I fear they might push all the way to Sinae. Regardless of the Chinese' misguided beliefs, an alliance of convenience seems urgently desirable for the Romans.
Well, when you put it like that, you do make Franciscus of Assisi sound like a rather filthy personage.
I said they are no Pisans within the ImperiumOh no, the Xenoi demons are attacking the Augustus.
Also, there IS a Pisan dynasty still alive. aha!
Blood for theFor the Dark Gods! Maim! Kill! Burn!
Behold the power of Chaos ...
Oh yesThere is so much potential in either direction.
Thanks; yes, this was surely unexpected, even more for me than you - when the even pop-up showed on screen I was like "no way, this is way too good to be true"Wow, that's some payoff to that update. I was going to mention the ever-so-subtle editing of any positive remark made about Leontios Doukas, but all that pales in comparison to the last line - and that screenshot.
The Empire is in for a rough ride, I fear.
Those who did protest can no longer answer to this question, I'm afraid. Or any other, for that matter.Doth the Byzantine historians protest too much? :laugh:
Gotta love possession events
Thank you! With "advice" from Iesus Kristos himself, Alexios I would be like Archangel Michael - unstoppable slayer of the all that's evilThat's a lie! An Augustus could never be a victim of the dark arts! The divine hand of God is watching over the Angeloi, and those who might doubt that must be punished!
Whoa, that's an end! Let's hope that the voice of Jesus will be the one that the troubled Basileus will have to hear. Who knows, maybe Iesus Kristos will give him some... "military advices" ("Hey, you, Alexios: Hit that pagan with this stick." "Of course, my lord"! ---> Whole Europe reconquered).
Waiting for the next chapter! Great as ever!
No spoilersI suspect the Imperator's recent so called, "friend" of consorting with the Xenoi to cast a spell on the Basileus.
It would indeed take a fool or a madman to deny that House Angelos is chosen by Our Lord to protect His Church and Children - the Angeloi protect!How much more prove for the divine mission of the Angeloi can there be than the Angels and Saints talking to one of them!
Or push it in the same direction. Harder.Well this emperor might push the Empire in another direction after theevilSynod held by his father
Blasphemy!How can the Xenoi Empire be more pious than the Imperium?Oh yes, the treacherous merchants were of almost no importance back then. But like vultures they grew in power while the Europe was bleeding.
Thank you, these are cool maps and I'll probably use them in EU4 part of this AAR I know that Ptolemy's map isn't perfect but it was good enough for this chapter.
Why do anything? Let the barbarians kill themselves - it's not like they are Christians after all, so why should Roman blood be spilled to save them?
Yup, it's Ptolemy's map - and I get it guys, next maps will be better, I promise Thank you very much and welcome!
By this I meant, for example, giving Timurids Uzbek culture as their prime one (in vanilla converter they have Mongol which doesn't trigger the "Form Mughals" mission) or changing Sunni provinces in Asia ruled by Timurids in EU4 to Shia (they are Sunni in EU4 and Shia in CK2). Something like this, no bigger changes - I want to change as less as possible to get as faithful representation of Crumbling Europe from CK2 in EU4 as possible. I'll post detailed list of all changes when EU4 will be started.
HRE was Cathar and Germany was Catholic, hence bloody religious wars hundreds of years before Reformation. Yes, Poland was a superpower for a short period of time with Hungary and Aquitaine ruled by House Golovin. Of course, it didn't last for long.
It's very nice to read such kind words - thank you, I really appreciate it Threat of complete annihilation was what made "In the Shadow of Certain, Painful Doom: Abyssinia" so interesting to me two years ago and it was this AAR that get me to buy CK2, so it's even better to hear that I continue the tradition
Hmm.
Versus:
I dunno
Hullo there! I'm glad you enjoyed journey of "Proteus", I hope you won't be dissapointed by this AAR by the time you catch up with the newest chapters In case you don't know: I'm still planning to complete the story of Jeb&crew when 0.25 is released, so it's not the end of my adventures with KSP
No, there are Bretons - there was a succesful Breton Company invasion which created (petty excuse for) a Breton state there for several decades. And yes, there are Poles in Aquitaine - after the crusade against Cathar HRE which was won by House Golovin (who, after their conversion from Old Tengri to Catholic, controlled both Poland and Hungary). This particular branch of their dynasty was polonized, so after some time all the nobles were Polish too and to this day Aquitaine's culture is Polish.
Ugh, don't even mention Croats, I've been trying toexterminateassimilate them for so long and it was a complete failure for some time. Conversions and culture changing may be problematic in EU4 indeed but honestly, after announcement of "Res Publica" and new ideas groups and bunch of changes it's hard to say how would it work. Conversion to Orthodoxy will be adressed soon (?) in story - but hey, I have whole another game to tackle this issue, let's leave something for me to do in EU4
These are excellent questions but I'm afraid I can't answer to them before getting to EU4 part of the story - I have some ideas concerning these things but RNG has a great influence on the story too. So please be patient, they all will be answered one way or another in EU4 part of this AAR.
You are welcome You seem to be well-informed about Nahua - I haven't done my research yet because I wanted to save it for EU4 part of the story, but seeing that you are so knowledgeable about the subject I may have some questions for you in the future BTW, the titles of Tezcatlipoca (obviously false god of xenoi who is nothing compared to Our Lord Iesus Kristos) are really, really impressive!
That wouldn't be a problem - those who are not of a pure blood will be put to work as slaves or in labour camps and the rest will be sterilized and will serve the Imperium as eunuchs. Or they will be simply exterminated, being the filthy soulless subhumans they are.
This is actually very depressing that what I'm describing in this grimdark made-up fictional setting actually happened in real world...
Thank you! I agree, it may be necessary to ally with Seres in EU4. Assuming that nothing changes on the map and we know that it surely will change - for worse.
But of course! He's another stark-raving mad Catholic scum, what else did you expect?
I said they are no Pisans within the Imperium
Blood for theBlood GodSky-Father! Feel the wrath of Tengri!
Oh yes
Thanks; yes, this was surely unexpected, even more for me than you - when the even pop-up showed on screen I was like "no way, this is way too good to be true"
Oh well, it can't get much worse than it already is. Or can it?
Those who did protest can no longer answer to this question, I'm afraid. Or any other, for that matter.
Yeah
Thank you! With "advice" from Iesus Kristos himself, Alexios I would be like Archangel Michael - unstoppable slayer of the all that's evil
No spoilers
It would indeed take a fool or a madman to deny that House Angelos is chosen by Our Lord to protect His Church and Children - the Angeloi protect!
Or push it in the same direction. Harder.
Next update coming this week, for the time being take a look at this table - some of you were asking for religion or culture tables but nobody asked for military one; well, here it is:
Blasphemy!How can the Xenoi Empire be more pious than the Imperium?
I can answer that for you: When was the last time you saw a human sacrifice in a Christian church?
Around 1500 years ago, but ofc since Jesus was the perfect sacrifice no more human sacrifice was necessary. (i think, im really bad at orthodox theology.)
You are welcome You seem to be well-informed about Nahua - I haven't done my research yet because I wanted to save it for EU4 part of the story, but seeing that you are so knowledgeable about the subject I may have some questions for you in the future BTW, the titles of Tezcatlipoca (obviously false god of xenoi who is nothing compared to Our Lord Iesus Kristos) are really, really impressive!
These are excellent questions but I'm afraid I can't answer to them before getting to EU4 part of the story - I have some ideas concerning these things but RNG has a great influence on the story too. So please be patient, they all will be answered one way or another in EU4 part of this AAR.
Next update coming this week, for the time being take a look at this table - some of you were asking for religion or culture tables but nobody asked for military one; well, here it is:
Around 1500 years ago, but ofc since Jesus was the perfect sacrifice no more human sacrifice was necessary. (i think, im really bad at orthodox theology.)
-National decision: Sacrifice Iesus Kristos. Gives 50k piety.
How do I do a strikethrough? I haven't found the option in font.