In that case, I will step down, and bide my time for Herr Gotha's Chancellorship. After his time, I will stand for chancellorship, but not a moment sooner. I endorse DDr Gotha. I wish you luck sir.
~Frederick Carile
~Frederick Carile
((Fair enough about the requests
What about my question of the Chiefs of Army/Navy?
Other thing I just realize: the constitutional amendments can be done before forming government? I would like to erase the requirements of the Minister of Interior of being from the winner party. I do not see reason for it and with the proportional division between parties it blockades a lot the liberty to chose ministers))
It amazes me that Herr Picard claims to have the support of his party when barely a quarter of its members have made their voices heard. Are the Liberals that slothful that they cannot move themselves to show solidarity in the absence of a contest?
- H. von Sigmaringen, New Society Assemblyman
((Not cool, claiming you have "the support of 5 of the 8 members" without any actual proof of such a thing. I'd like to think that this game has a higher standard.))
While there were at the time only two factions left to officially speak up, the only way for Herr von Mannerheim to lose would have been if someone was to renounce their support.Assemblyman Sigmaringen, I thank you for your concern with the way our party is run, but look to your own party please. It appears that of the parties of this Republic it is only your own that still has not even nominated a candidate for this coming election.
I do not know what debates you are used to that involve banshee screaming but Conservative debates tend to be sedate and, quite frankly, ponderous. Slothfulness takes many forms. It is not just idleness but also includes ignoring one's job, say being a representative on the public level, or not using one's talents, such as a gift for public oratory or a pugnaciousness for public debate and discourse.You say we are "slothful" when in fact we are simply more organized it appears. We had made our decision prior to coming to this assembly of the two houses. So do not take our quietness for laziness. We simply do not need to scream like a pack of banshees to come to a decision.
Yes, I remember Friedrich. It is a shame I lost contact with him during my convalescence. It warms my heart to hear this news. Please convey to him my congratulations.Do not take what I say as an attack on you, Mr. Sigmaringen. I have nothing but respect for you. My own great grandfather, Bernhard Unger who assisted in writing the very Constitution which founded this great Republic, received similar injuries during the Sienz Campaign of 1734. You have served this nation honorably as both a soldier and politician. Even my own younger brother, Friedrich, spoke of how you saved his life during the Nationalist Uprisings of 1811. The following year, he went so far as to name his newborn son after you. I simply wished to inform you of how exactly he was able to make such claims.
((Ack, I forgot that somehow. I was mainly protesting claiming X out of Y rather than the secrecy of the process. I can see a situation where less trustworthy players could claim the private support of absent players and there'd be no way to prove it. I tend to see demons lurking in empty shadows.((There is no longer a quorum as this post says. Also even then that is in regards to votes for policy changes and things of that nature and not the party nominations of Chancellors. Unless that is how your party wishes for it to be chosen. Our own decided to speak amongst ourselves via mass PMs and once varetta had a majority vote we were comfortable with him stating in this thread that he was our candidate.))
Herr Picard,Dear von Sigmaringen,
We all in these house knew of the problems in your party to decide anything, even the least important things like your candidate for the Chancellery; but what we did not know until know was that you also disagree with mathematics. o
Maybe in the small town where you were born and raise "barely a quarter" is the same than more than a sixty per cent. If that is the case, I pray God not to allow you to become our Minister of Finance or soon we will be organizing parties to celebrate the ruin of our economy.
At least a pig auction is more verifiable than backroom dealings. And we know who paid what for the pig.I strongly recommend you and your party to learn from the honorable men who fill the ranks the UAI the way of gentlemen to chose a candidate for an honorable position like the Chancellery is, instead of crying in public your candidate like if we were in a fair auctioning a pig.
((To be honest, it all hinged on you claiming OOC more votes than were visible and the above-mentioned possibility of abusing the system. One LIB player hasn't posted in five days and another since this thread started, hence my skullduggery detector started going off. I'm used to playing with distrustful players so, again, I see demons hiding in shadows and the quickest way [IMO] to get a resolution was to discuss the matter publicly.))((My party colleagues already have explained you the situation so I will not insist on the subject. Only one advice, if you want to listen: next time you consider that some one has done something incorrect or dishonest you should ask him first by PM so you can avoid being so wrong like you have been this time. By other way, if your character wants to do the same it is fine; to be honest it is even better and logical from a story point of view.
But I give you a point: UAI members, I think that next time we should write here our vote for candidature at least once we have taken the decission behind the scene. It is fair with other players and will avoid situations like this one ))
I see little use in delaying proceedings by continuing in vain to run against Herr von Mannerheim. I therefore renounce my candidacy.
~Florentin Willem Graf von Wächtersbach, Statthalter von Cassel, Societyist
It amazes me that Herr Picard claims to have the support of his party when barely a quarter of its members have made their voices heard. Are the Liberals that slothful that they cannot move themselves to show solidarity in the absence of a contest?
- H. von Sigmaringen, New Society Assemblyman
((Not cool, claiming you have "the support of 5 of the 8 members" without any actual proof of such a thing. I'd like to think that this game has a higher standard.))
((EDIT - so I don't double post.))
In a later speech...
In the interests of bringing our own leadership contest to a close, my faction and I will support the candidacy of von Mannerheim. If my arithmetic is correct, this means that approximately 55% of the total party supports his candidacy. And to those members of the opposition who have attempted to discretely contact me about my previous statements, I steadfastly maintain my position that political affairs should be conducted in public. If public voting is good enough for the nation, I see no reason why it shouldn't be good enough for the nation's parties.
- H. von Sigmaringen, New Society Assemblyman
Speaking to the New Society of Sigmaringen
((Remember folks, we aren't doing it this time but in the future you'll need to speak up pre-election for the quorum.))
Mannerheim has the current support of Gospod, de Spinoza, himself, myself, and von Bern. With 5 out of 9 possible votes and with the other candidate pulling out, that makes von Mannerheim the New Society candidate for the Chancellorship.If I am correct, that makes Mannerheim the New Society candidate?
Mannerheim has the current support of Gospod, de Spinoza, himself, myself, and von Bern. With 5 out of 9 possible votes and with the other candidate pulling out, that makes von Mannerheim the New Society candidate for the Chancellorship.
- H. von Sigmaringen, New Society Assemblyman
Discussing matters with a friend on the electoral board.
((You know things are bad for you when you're simply referred to as "the other candidiate". ))