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Victoria 3 - Dev Diary #84 - French Content

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Hello Victorians! Last week we covered Agitators and Exiles, the central mechanical feature of the 1.3 Update. Today, we’ll be covering the new paid content that will be included in the Voice of the People Immersion Pack, along with some updated free content coming in the 1.3 Update. First, I’ll be covering Coups, one of the most popularly anticipated features of the Immersion Pack, before moving on to the Natural Borders of France - and then moving on to Victoria and Hansi to cover the other included features, from French Algeria to the Paris Commune.

Coups​

Even if it weren’t for all of its other problems, the democratic government of Central America seems to be on its last legs...
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Coups! Voice of the People introduces a new Journal Entry that allows unhappy government Interest Groups to seize power and institute a new mode of rule. A Coup can begin when one of your ruling Interest Groups is Powerful, has negative Approval, and fundamentally opposes your democracy - or the ideological foundations of the government. Under these circumstances the Interest Group will typically begin plotting their Coup within a few months. You as the player can choose to either support or resist the coup.

It’s best to be careful who you choose to include in your government, lest they make their discontent known at ballistic speeds.
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It will take several months for the instigators to execute their Coup, and their progress is tracked through a Journal Entry. While the instigators remain powerful and angry the progress bar will advance, and if they become appeased or weakened the progress bar will deplete. The Coup will simply fizzle out if the progress bar is fully depleted, or if the Interest Group no longer supports the law they’re trying to institute. The plot will also be put to an abrupt end if you decide to eject the potential traitors from the government, but doing so will immediately cause them to greatly reduce their Approval of the government, which means you may well have a Revolution on your hands.

Sometimes, advice just seems to fall from the sky.
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Whilst a Coup is ongoing, events related to it will intermittently appear, allowing the player a chance to either speed along the death of their current government, or fight against it.

An interest group successfully couping the government will lead to their leader becoming the ruler of the country. Here, Central America has just acquired a new, much less amicable President.
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If the instigators remain powerful and angry for long enough, they will be able to execute their Coup against the government and institute their desired law(s). These laws can vary, with the “default” coup simply installing an Autocracy with the coupists greatly favoured. However, ideological coups are also possible, and are generally related to governance principles, with a powerful monarchist interest group within the government being able to launch a coup for a monarchy, or powerful republicans doing the opposite to a monarchical government. A coup to change governance principles will, by default, instate the Oligarchy or Single-Party State laws as appropriate, rather than Autocracy.

The Natural Borders of France​

Every good French Empire controls land up to the Rhine - can you even call yourself France if you don’t own Brussels?
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The idea that the French border ought to extend significantly eastward was a popular one among nationalists of the era. After you research Nationalism and have a suitably jingoistic Interest Group in government, you’ll be presented with the option to pursue just such a border. If this seems like a sensible idea to you, you’ll be offered claims on the relevant State Regions but suffer a penalty to Infamy Decay. Your eastern neighbors, most notably Prussia, are not likely to appreciate this clear sign of imminent aggression.

Why fight, when you can win land without a shot fired?
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Your southward expansion, however, need not be won by hostile force. The Treaty of Turin Decision is available to France if they are able to secure strong relations and an Obligation from the owner of Savoy. You might, for instance, benevolently help out Sardinia-Piedmont in their quest to unify Italy or expel the Austrians from the peninsula. If this country happens to also own Nice, they’ll throw that in as part of the bargain.

Finally, we have reached a completely unproblematic solution to the Belgian language problem.
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Should France succeed in achieving these “natural borders”, the map of the region will look something like this. Here you have a further look at the changes we’ve made to State Regions in France, but you’ll also note that in order to achieve a truly aesthetic France we’ve split up the North Rhine so that the border matches the river. And since we’re on the topic of setup changes, I’ll also note that we’ve added 2 new cultures to the region. Franco-Provencal (in more modern times known as Arpitan) has homelands in Rhone, Savoy, and West Switzerland, and is the primary culture of the new releasable nation of Savoy. The Alemannic culture has homelands in East Switzerland, Baden, and Wurttemberg. With these additions we’ve removed Swiss culture and given Switzerland both the Alemannic and Franco-Provencal primary cultures.






Hello. This is Victoria, also known as Pacifica, and today I will be covering a selection of new content included in 1.3 and Voice of the People. The new immersion pack primarily focuses on France, but also contains content which can apply to other countries or spread to affect other nations.

Much of what I will cover is the result of us experimenting with more mechanically complex content to create scenarios that both play smoothly and provide a truly unique experience. It includes the Paris Commune, a complex formative event which ties into the reworked revolutions in 1.3, a reworked Belle Époque journal entry containing nearly five times as much flavour as before, and the Pébrine Epidemic, a minor crisis for Europe which requires the use of several interlocking game systems to resolve.

The Paris Commune​


The Voice of the People immersion pack will allow for a France player to experience a formative moment in the history of the socialist movement - the Paris Commune. Once Socialism and Anarchism have been researched, if sufficiently beaten and destabilised, a revolution in France will unleash a tidal wave of proletarian anger in the city of Paris, leading to a major crisis that will threaten the future of the French nation.

Whilst the Paris Commune exists, the player will be able to influence both the workings of the Commune and the responses of the Versailles government, molding the crisis soon to come as they wish. A player controlling a reactionary France may wish to repress and sabotage the Commune as much as possible, in order to see through a successful occupation of Paris, whilst a player who wishes to side with the Commune may embolden it as much as possible, so that the National Guard may march on Versailles and seize power with a minimum of bloodshed. Advancing the bar as much as possible will allow for the latter outcome, whilst reducing it to zero will lead to the former, as was historical.

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Pictured: So long as a revolution is not entirely reactionary, it will be able to spur the upheavals in Paris that lead to the establishment of the commune.
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Furthermore, whilst the Commune is active, the intermittent fighting between Versailles and Paris will be represented through events, the results of which can allow for either the destruction or triumph of the Commune.

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The Paris Commune, whilst radically progressive and opposed to the status quo of the conservative government which spawns it, is not entirely mature when it appears. Through events associated with the journal entry, the player will be given control of laws enacted by the Commune and the influence of factions within Paris’ barricades, choices that will both strengthen or weaken the Commune, and may have consequences even outside of Paris. The Commune possesses a wide cast of characters, from Louis Charles Delescluze to Louise Michel, all representing the various tendencies of the Commune.

Pictured: Whilst the Paris Commune starts as a simple progressive Parliamentary Republic with Universal Suffrage, many socialist figures within it call for the establishment of a true proletarian dictatorship. Rejecting Republicanism and embracing the Internationale will alienate some moderates, but will also allow for the Commune to immediately become one of the world’s first Council Republics.
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If the Paris Commune endures for long enough for revolution to break out across the country, but does not progress enough to carry out an uncontested march on Versailles, the leaders of the Commune will be able to seize control of the uprising, granting Paris to the revolutionaries and allowing it to create a new France through a conventional civil war. If this outcome arrives, the player may either continue to play as the French central government or switch over to the Paris Commune, and decide the future of France on the battlefield.

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Pictured: A powerful revolution by radical Industrialists, Intelligentsia, and Rural Folk declares itself for Paris, and strikes against the last remnants of the conservative monarchist government in Bretagne and Savoy.
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If the Commune triumphs over the former government of France, the new France may take many shapes - but, whatever that is, it is certain to be one that rejects the conservatism of the traditional country, and, born in revolution, seeks to blaze a new path in a tumultuous world.

Pictured: A communist France, in its new wine-red, will no longer be more or less indistinguishable from Britain on the map.
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Belle Époque Rework​


The Belle Époque, formerly a journal entry tied to the Eiffel Tower, has received a comprehensive and entirely free makeover in 1.3. Sixteen new flavour events have been added to the journal entry, covering topics from early films to art-nouveau metro stations. The new events are intended to walk the player through the cultural and technological achievements of the late 19th century.

Whilst these events are written primarily for France, many of them also have generic variants which will be available for any other country that fits the conditions to unlock the Belle Époque. It would be cruel, after all, to deny the joys of roller-skating and steam tricycles to cities like St. Petersburg, New York, or Guangzhou.

Pictured: Just two examples of the new events added to the reworked journal entry.
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The Pébrine Epidemic​


In the mid to late 19th century, an epidemic of the silkworm disease pébrine spread through Europe, devastating the French and Italian silk industries. The identification of the cause of the disease was the work of Louis Pasteur, and a notable early application of the newly-developed germ theory.

The Voice of the People immersion pack will add the pébrine epidemic as a journal entry for various European nations, similar to the Spanish Flu journal entry. The disease will spread through Europe across borders and through markets, devastating silk plantations and kicking off tensions between suddenly-destitute workers and plantation owners. Successfully curing the disease through the power of newly-developed sciences will serve as a great bonus to national prestige.

Pictured: The finest silkworm-based content that Victoria 3 has to offer.
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Greetings! My name is Hansi, known to a select few as Lufthansi, and I’m here to take you through some of the upcoming changes to France and Algeria.

Algeria​


With the old Regency shattered by the initial French invasion six years prior, Algeria in 1836 is a land in chaos. Say goodbye to the old unified Algeria of pre-1.3, and say hello to this mess of a political setup, featuring nations such as the Emirate of Mascara under Abdelkader, the Berber kingdom of Ait-Abbas under the Mokrani family, and the Beylik of Constantine under Ahmad Bey. And who can forget the horse-riding, pistol-wielding, hemp-smoking mother-regent Aisha of the Sultanate of Touggourt?

Welcome - to the Algerian thunderdome.
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Like France, Algeria has also received a state region makeover. The old state regions, lacking any real roots in historical administrative divisions, are gone. Instead, we are left with ones based on the mid 19th century départements of Oran, Algiers, and Constantine, which in turn roughly corresponds to the pre-French beyliks of the Regency of Algiers.

Like France, Algeria has also received a pops rework
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Your goal as any of the players in the Algerian game, be they French invaders or Algerian defenders, will be to firstly consolidate your rule over Algeria proper. Needless to say, the French are more likely to come out on top, but should you manage to prevail as one of the Algerian minors, you will be rewarded, with your rewards depending on which nation you succeeded as.

The Regency-successor state in Constantine f.ex. will be able to restore the old Deylik.
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As the French player, however, conquest alone is not enough. If Algeria is ever to become an integral part of France, you must also embark on a project of development, integration, and colonization. Whether you do this by supplanting the original population or through integrating it remains up to the player, although in any case, it will be a lengthy project.

A series of Journal Entries and events will accompany any would-be conquerors of Algeria
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The Dreyfus Affair​


Possibly the most infamous miscarriage of justice in modern history, the so-called “Affair” viciously tore through fin de siècle French society. Thoroughly embittering French political life, the Affair radicalized large portions of society and exposed and amplified the deep divides that characterised French society at the time. In 1.3 you get to re-experience this national trauma in the form of a Journal Entry, staking your way through a crisis characterized by antisemitism, deceit, stubbornness, and pride.

Shall the “march of truth” succeed, or will the forces of reaction bring it to a halt?
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Guiseppe Garibaldi​


Hardly in need of an introduction, Guiseppe Garibaldi is perhaps one of the most iconic characters of the 19th century. 1.3 sees his introduction as an agitator, with some extra content to boot. Should you find yourself fighting the good cause against enemies of liberty or enemies of Italy, there’s a chance “the Hero of the Two Worlds” will pop by and offer his services. The more conflicts he’s been a part of, the better a general he will become. Just don’t expect him to stay around for too long during peacetime. The enemies of liberty hardly rest after all, so neither can Garibaldi.

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French Monarchism​


While many associate France primarily with republicanism and revolution, throughout the 19th century it represented but one half of the domestic political spectrum. The other would be occupied by conservative thinkers and politicians usually coalescing around one of the many squabbling monarchist factions, each backing their own claimants to the throne of France.

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To model this in game we have replaced the Royalist ideology with three new France-specific ideologies:

Orleanists represent the supporters of the Orléans cadet branch of the House of Bourbon, who came to power in France after the 1830 July Revolution. The Orleanists are for the most part supporters of a moderate-to-liberal constitutional monarchy, and it is the faction that starts in control of France in 1836.

Legitimists are the supporters of the deposed main branch of the House of Orléans. Thoroughly reactionary and anti-revolutionary in nature, they are in many ways the ideological heirs of the ultraroyalistes of the Bourbon Restoration, and desire a restructuring of France along traditionalist lines.

Bonapartists espouse the dynastic claims of the line of Napoleon Bonaparte, through his brother Louis. Historically brought to power in 1852 through the efforts of Louis-Napoléon, the Bonapartists believe in a strong government capable of restoring France to the heights of glory.

This ideological split will remain until one of the three factions successfully cements their hold on power. Doing so however, is not an easy task, as it will require careful political maneuvering to ensure that your faction remains on top in a notoriously politically unstable country, where many, frankly, would rather just do away with any and all monarchs, whether they’re Louis-Philippes or Napoleons.

Enthroning your pretender will not automatically delegitimize the others, that takes additional effort.
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To accompany the French monarchist Journal Entries we have also added a series of events that will either aid or impede any attempts at getting the “right man” in power.
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And that is all for today! Next week you’ll hear from Max, our Art Director, who will talk about the visual features coming in Voice of the People such as the bread centaur fancy new paper map, game table, and more!
 
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I'm sorry that France ruined your Natural Borders of France experience since France even when extending to its supposed natural borders never included the Dutch area south of the Rhine.

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No weird Gelre tail in that image, which makes things much nicer. If only that were possible in game.

Sadly neither France nor Netherlands have stars on their flag so you can't have a state that small just so France can conquer it from the Netherlands for nice borders. And conquering individual provinces is only possible if a province is next to water, so we're out of luck.
 
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I'm sorry that France ruined your Natural Borders of France experience since France even when extending to its supposed natural borders never included the Dutch area south of the Rhine.

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Never say never: It simply did a bit later..., in 1810.
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Never say never: It simply did a bit later..., in 1810.
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No. They didn't. 1810 was the annexation of the entire Kingdom of Holland, not just up to the Rhine. The Rhine in what is now the Netherlands was never the French border.

This map is from an atlas that used the pre-Napoleon map of France as the basis for its 1810 map and so due to the size constraints of the print shows an incomplete map of the French Empire at the time.
 
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No. They didn't. 1810 was the annexation of the entire Kingdom of Holland, not just up to the Rhine. The Rhine in what is now the Netherlands was never the French border.

This map is from an atlas that used the pre-Napoleon map of France as the basis for its 1810 map and so due to the size constraints of the print shows an incomplete map of the French Empire at the time.

You are wrong. The Mouths of the Rhine (les Bouches-du-Rhin) were established as a French department the 24th of April, 1810. France, then, extends to its supposed natural borders, including the Dutch area south of the Rhine.

The rest of "the entire kingdom of Holland" was annexed to France later, the 9th of July, 1810, and its territory was only departmentalized the 1st of January, 1811, following a decree took the 13th of September, 1810.

So, yes, it did, and this map, contrary to your groundless allegation*, is simply a map of France the 4th of June, 1810, hence after the 24th of April 1810, but before the 9th of July, 1810.

(* I am quite amazed that, while appearing to know nothing about this map, you could dare to state, with the indicative mood, that it would be "an atlas that used the pre-Napoleon map of France as the basis for its 1810 map and so due to the size constraints of the print shows an incomplete map of the French Empire at the time"; as if you would know what you were in fact -I presume- inventing ex nihilo at the time...)
 
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Very nice content addition!
As a french, I'm also very pleased to have french states being way more accurate than it is currently (still some states in the South looks weird but most of the northern ones are good shaped!

A content-balance related question : is there any plan to represent the historicaly low-ish french demographic growth that happened in the 19th century?
It is hard to find out why France had such lower demographic growth compared to other european nations, but the known causes could fit very well in this country pack :
- Napoleonic law on land inheritance, discouraging families to have many descents
- Demographic consequences of Napoleonic wars, wich decimated french youth 20 years prior to start date
- The fact France already achieved its demographic transition in the 18th century while other western european nations did not

Thank you!
I agree this is needed because France's normal pop growth causes them to be way too strong in comparison to Britain and mainly Prussia/Germany. It really doesn't seem likely that Germany can take on France in a 1 on 1 let alone just as North German Federation. France needs something that lowers their pop growth to even give Germany the chance of becoming the dominant power of Europe on land.
 
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channel islands should be split state from normandy and unincorporated (channel islands are not officialy part of the UK) while their population is speaking Normand dialect (so in game closer to french culture than british one, definitly not an english Homeland )
 
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Just a note on the Rhine border in the Netherlands: The simple solution would be to make a state out of the provinces of Brabant and Limburg, as that would more or less satisfy the Rhine border demand.

But don't include the province of Zeeland in the Brabant-Limburg state. While that will make a complete Rhine border impossible, there is no reasonable way Zeeland can be combined with Limburg and Brabant. Zeeland's economy is sea facing while Brabant's is agricultural and industrial, Zeeland is culturally (closer to) Dutch, while Brabant and Limburg are culturally (closer to) Flemish, but above all Zeeland is deeply calvinistic while Brabant and Limburg are deeply catholic. They really can't be combined into a single state, France's Rhine borders be damned.
 
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Just a note on the Rhine border in the Netherlands: The simple solution would be to make a state out of the provinces of Brabant and Limburg, as that would more or less satisfy the Rhine border demand.

But don't include the province of Zeeland in the Brabant-Limburg state. While that will make a complete Rhine border impossible, there is no reasonable way Zeeland can be combined with Limburg and Brabant. Zeeland's economy is sea facing while Brabant's is agricultural and industrial, Zeeland is culturally (closer to) Dutch, while Brabant and Limburg are culturally (closer to) Flemish, but above all Zeeland is deeply calvinistic while Brabant and Limburg are deeply catholic. They really can't be combined into a single state, France's Rhine borders be damned.
I agree fully, if the devs don't want to add too many states to fix it, they can simply add a "Brabant-Limburg" state out of those southern parts of Gelre, instead of making two new separate states. Zeeland could keep it's coastial areas and it would still look good, certainly better than it does now.
 
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royal marriage takes place... Then, like King or Europa, the right to claim the throne arises, as well as when a member of the royal family dies or a member of the royal family dies due to a revolution, an event called death of unknown cause occurs with a certain probability, so that small countries cannot be merged or merged. I would like it to be added in this way, whether it is an option to intimidate a puppet state or if it is an equal power, whether it will wage a war that cuts down on prestige. It would be nice to add an event that encourages the Sarajevo incident, such as attaching a loved trait when successful, or by being killed by a certain ethnic group with a probability so that the Sarajevo incident can occur naturally.
While touring the Alsace-Lorraine region of the German Empire, Prince Wilhelm von Prussia was shot in the heart and in the eye by a 17-year-old young man who was obsessed with the French nation. The despicable French side has nothing to do with us at all. Kaiser, all the subjects are outraged by the tragedy of the crown prince. please make a decision


Interrogate the young man and calmly look for connections. (French relations +50), (Radicals 50% increase), (Junker, military, petit bourgeois interests -10)


Declare war on the despicable French right now! (Declaration of war on the grounds of dissolution of France), (British Empire Relations - 100), (Russia Relations - 100), Entrepreneurs, intellectuals, trade union interests -15


Hmm.. I needed a reason to change the crown prince, but it worked well (appointment of Prince Eitel Friedrich von Prussia), Juncker, military, petit bourgeois, intellectual interests -20, Radicals increased by 70%, Kaiser abdication demanded revolution begins


I hope there will be an event like this. Each country puts different names.

Source: Europa Universalis Café [VIC3] [VIC3] I would like this DLC to include this content.
 
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Just watched OPB's video on this dev diary, and honestly he's right that a lot of the systems being implemented here are so totally disconnected from other aspects of gameplay, population, ideology, etc, (especially the Commune and Monarchism entries) that it feels like these are just railroaded event choices rather than actual dynamic developments based on what's going on in the game. With the remaining issues with fronts and warfare, the Commune being a separate tag is going to make going to war against France during their weakest point incredibly annoying and difficult with shifting fronts, etc.

Not a fan of that kind of design at this stage, it feels like these systems are going to age poorly and be a pain to change in the future.
 
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I think that Muskar is wrong when he uses the word fascism... Fascism was born in the Inter War Era, from the horrors of the Great War, and, for conjectural and structural reasons, fascism was -while invented by a French activist: Georges Valois, who says to had took inspiration from Maurice Barrès' ideas- very anecdotal in France..., and, de facto, restricted to the pure platonic world (except in the ephemeral German enforced government in 1944).

I think that he is also wrong when he uses the word "jingoism" for a purely defensive stance: Parisian revolutionaries didn't wanted to be invaded, nor wanted that Prussians would unilaterally annex parts of the French Republic... It isn't a pacific move, but it isn't a jingoist neither, and it is absurd, I'd say, to call it that way.

However, he is right, I feel, that the wave of nationalism which beat France in the 1880s, as a consequence of the traumatic defeat of 1870-1871, did affected all political movements; that the defeat in 1870-1871 provoked a relatively consensual irredentism, concerning Prussian Annexed Alsace and Moselle; that some confusion affected the left-wing vs right-wing divide, as we can see with a figure such as Boulanger. He is also right that many left-winger were actually antisemitic (albeit that it haves nothing characteristic of the left-wing, probably more right-wingers were antisemitic: antisemitism was, alas, very common -and it wasn't exactly the same kind of antisemitism).

Still, the "bridge" stance of Boulangers, who rallied leftwingers and rightwingers to his baneer, is not something new: it is even quite common for his political family: the popular and authoritarian right wing (colloquially called "Bonapartist right wing" in France), among which were, previously, Napoléon Bonaparte and Louis Napoléon Bonaparte, and among which would follow François de La Rocque and Charles de Gaulle. For all of them, it was clear that there was a left-wing ~ism and a right-wing ~ism: there was a left wing bonapartism, a left-wing boulangism, a left wing gaullism. It is a consequence of the ideology "above the political divide, for the national unity" of this right wing family.
What shocked me is the specific accusation of antisemitism of Communards. I'd be eager to see significant examples, possibly academic sources, as not only (as you mention) antisemtism is clearly consubstantial with reactionary catholicism in terms of political families (i.e. Communards worst enemies) but it has been a national sport in the subsequent years to accuse Communards of every sin in the world, not only from the Versaillais but also from the democrats, so much so that a lot of the redacted horrible stories still hold to be true even today in some quarters. (See for example "Les écrivains contre la commune")
 
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Hey,

Two remarks/question :

- Why is France a Constitutionnal Empire already during Louis Philippe reign in the stream? Oversight?
The switch between regime names and changes can be quite smoothly done, a few mods did so.

- Isn't the "secure X dynasty" journal entry too short? 10 years is nothing... A generation (around 20/25 years) would be better.
 
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Wow, you guys really dropped the ball here. All of these flavour events need to be way better integrated into the existing structures and mechanics of the game. There are more than enough button-clicking simulators out there already. Please make Victoria something more than that!
 
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Hey,

Two remarks/question :

- Why is France a Constitutionnal Empire already during Louis Philippe reign in the stream? Oversight?
The switch between regime names and changes can be quite smoothly done, a few mods did so.

- Isn't the "secure X dynasty" journal entry too short? 10 years is nothing... A generation (around 20/25 years) would be better.

In regards to "secure X dynasty" it might be that in a game that only spans 100 years in-game, a whole generation might be to long for the player to enjoy the benefits from reaching this goal for any significant time in the game.
 
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In regards to "secure X dynasty" it might be that in a game that only spans 100 years in-game, a whole generation might be to long for the player to enjoy the benefits from reaching this goal for any significant time in the game.
I also believe it is the other side of it too. A time limit of how long you can wait before changing to a different dynasty.
 
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Does the coup work the same no matter which IG is leading it?
If the armed forces stage a coup, they may have no difficulty in obtaining weapons and acting as planned, but a trade union coup should not be easy.

Belgium is a country whose independence has been recognised by the Five Great Powers, so if France invades Belgium on the basis of its natural borders, I would like Britain, Prussia, Austria and Russia to take Belgium's side and fight France.
Unless France manages to sway prussia and Austria with things so that they stay neutral. Would be awesome if Diplomacy was actually interesting
 
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