Stellaris Dev Diary #218 - Plantoids Gameplay

[Liggi]

I'm slightly confused... Phototrophic just seems like a worse version of Radiotrophic?

The latter gives you everything the former does, and more. Is this intentional?

EDIT: As people have pointed out, and I also just noticed, Phototrophic is a cheaper Trait.

 

[Saluki.exe]

I'm slightly confused... Phototrophic just seems like a worse version of Radiotrophic?

The latter gives you everything the former does, and more. Is this intentional?

Phototrophic is cheaper than Radiotrophic, so it makes sense.

 

[Tindalosihound]

I'm slightly confused... Phototrophic just seems like a worse version of Radiotrophic?

The latter gives you everything the former does, and more. Is this intentional?

It's also cheaper at 1 point rather than 2.
So if you aren't planning on going tomb world heavy, you can stick with the cheaper option.

 

[Alfray Stryke]

I'm slightly confused... Phototrophic just seems like a worse version of Radiotrophic?

The latter gives you everything the former does, and more. Is this intentional?

Completely intentional, Radiotrophic costs more and gives you bonuses for living on tomb worlds, whereas Phototrophic purely gives the energy upkeep trade.

 

[Kaoru Sen'nin]

Now we just need an organic ship set so we can **pretend** that we have bio ship

 

[Lord_Gong]

These feel incredibly underwhelming

 

[Kaoru Sen'nin]

Does the Gaia Seeders need to stay after the planet is fully terraformed ?
I mean can we destroy the building to free the slot without turning the planet back to desert or whatever ?

 

[Jocator]

I love this.

 

[Kaoru Sen'nin]

These feel incredibly underwhelming

I'm not really impressed either.
Looking at lithoid I think there are still a little bit more needed to be on the same level. Like an Origin for instance.

 

[Pale Blue]

Not a fan to lock traits to certain portraits. It limits a player's imagination and creativity. Why can't I build a species of rocks that sustains itself of radiation? Or a post apocalyptic one that evolved that trait? Why limit things artificially to a certain portrait? Just because the most common stereotype for a trait like that is a plant?

 

[Liggi]

These feel incredibly underwhelming

They seem pretty cool to me. It's not a massive overhaul or a huge content dump, but it's given us some fun new Plantoid / Fungoid specific options and a bit of flavour.

As part of a free patch, I'm here for it.

 

[Kaoru Sen'nin]

They seem pretty cool to me. It's not a massive overhaul or a huge content dump, but it's given us some fun new Plantoid / Fungoid specific options and a bit of flavour.

As part of a free patch, I'm here for it.

It's technically part of a DLC though.
It makes it better than before sure but I think they could have go just a little bit crazier here.

 

[MrGuyPerson]

I don't understand the negative responses here. This stuff is thematically cool and adds some much-needed flavor to a relatively underwhelming DLC.

 

[Kaoru Sen'nin]

I don't understand the negative responses here. This stuff is thematically cool and adds some much-needed flavor to a relatively underwhelming DLC.

Lithoid and Necroid, which are the benchmark for making old DLC better, both have an Origin which is lacking there. Or at least it seems there won't be an origin for this DLC. But it may just be that they didn't show it.

Also I personnally would like to see the Plantoid and Fungoid ship set revisited to looks more unique and awesome.

And I guess some people still want the bioships. Although you kinda can do it with the civic and pretending you "alloy" is biomaterial. Just don't look at your ship and it works.

Anyway it's not that it is bad. Far from it. Just a little tiny bit under the announced benchmark (Lithoid / Necroid). Nothing critical but still.

 

[Dsingis]

I like the adding of small little flavour things to all the species categories. I hope that some day, all species categories will have their own gameplay quirks.

 

[fodazd]

I really like older DLC getting additional content.

Regarding the new traits:
-> Phototrophic is flavorful, but it doesn't strike me as particularly useful. Even for 1-point traits, there are considerably better options.
-> Radiotrophic might actually be pretty good if you have an easy way to terraform planets into tomb worlds. Still not among the best 2-point traits though.
-> Budding sounds like the strongest of the new traits. Actually worth picking maybe, but I don't think it's strongest on hives, because they already have a pretty high base growth.

Regarding the new civics:
-> Catalytic processing *might* actually be pretty good, especially for hives.
-> From what I can see here, idyllic bloom is just a more expensive version of the world shaper AP, which doesn't sound all that strong to me.

 

[FortunaDraken]

Looks neat so far! As a Hive Mind player, loving the fact that the civics can also be used with them. More Hive Mind love plz <3

Also I personnally would like to see the Plantoid and Fungoid ship set revisited to looks more unique and awesome.

I hope they don't do anything to the Plantoid ships, they're my second favourite set after Avian. I love how they look.

 

[Androidmead]

Love the new civics and traits. Custodians are already proving to be an awesome change-up to development, can't wait to see what's in store for humanoids.

 

[Zoomy]

Do the planets stay as Gaia worlds if Idyllic Bloom is removed? Similarly, if a planet isn't fully Gaiafied and the civic is removed, do the seeders hang around? Can the project be finished?