Stellaris Dev Diary #185: Announcing Necroids

[MK1980]

i was expecting that the next update would be something small-ish like another species pack.

but i have to say that the undead theme would lend itself to a flavorful new fallen empire (maybe an alternate version of the xenophobes or the spiritualists?) and might also be a cool endgame or midgame crisis, so it's a bit disappointing that it's only a "normal" species pack with portraits, shipset and some perks and not some storypack/species pack hybrid.

 

[Phoenix77z]

Hello everyone!

Today we bring you some exciting news about our upcoming Species Pack! We’re happy to announce that our next species pack will be themed around death and should allow you to live death to the fullest! Check out the trailer below:

Necroids will feature:

• 15+1 new portraits (the +1 being machine)
• 1 new Ship Set
• 1 new City Set
• 1 new Room background
• 1 new Origin
• 3 new Civics
• 1 new pre-scripted Empire
• 1 new Advisor Voice

We wanted to add ships that had a more sinister or evil appearance, and I’m very happy to say we’ve made something really great. We’ll go into more detail about the ships, and give you a peek into the art process, in a future dev diary.

True to the theme, we wanted the portraits to revolve around death, but not look outright undead or decaying. We never intended the Necroids to be specifically undead, but rather themed around death. Similar to the ships, we will be doing a dev diary in the future to give you a peek into the art process, and also reveal all the new portraits. Stay tuned!

Regarding the other features, we have already shown you some of them, such as the Death Cult Civic and the Memorialist Civic. The remaining features will be revealed over the next couple of weeks, and maybe you'll even get to learn about Jeff. But for now, let’s pass the Mishar Cabal into our memories.

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General Donnten threw her bloodied axe next to Ostiir’s severed head. The others in the Leadership Council would remember this the next time they considered interrupting her in the Mishar Althing.

She pushed past the acolytes that were coming to deal with the corpse. They were annoyed - the rites were always harder if the head was removed - but they would just have to stitch it back together.

Smiling to herself, she left the arena. At least Ostiir would be an obedient little soldier now.

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Bro, just do a bug fixing update. Please focus some time on this dev season on some new content, but give yourselves enough time to fix the bugs before the new content lands....test test test!!!!!

 

[Nawolith]

Ok, i have read enough of this thread to see what most people think of the game. As for me, i play Stellaris with friends for RP reasons and that means we turn off the crisis and don't really care about the AI. The meat is the player-interaction and this species pack will make a "fine addition to our collection". And to all those who are certainly going to downvote this post and critize me for enjoying this game and DLC the way it is right now: You have no right to 'critizise' me with a dislike for something i enjoy. If you can even call that a critique.

EDIT:

Seeing the obvious direction this is going: Don't just dislike me, awnser me! If it's jsut a simple "I don't agree with your viewpoint" respect my opinion and donvote me if you really must. (Which i think is unnecessary). But if you really want to talk against me, do so and don't hide behind a simple "Dislike"-Button.

 

[Elm0__]

Ok, i have read enough of this thread to see what most people think of the game. As for me, i play Stellaris with friends for RP reasons and that means we turn off the crisis and don't really care about the AI. The meat is the player-interaction and this species pack will make a "fine addition to our collection". And to all those who are certainly going to downvote this post and critize me for enjoying this game and DLC the way it is right now: You have no right to 'critizise' me with a dislike for something i enjoy. If you can even call that a critique.

Yes, roleplaying MPs are also one of the best Stellaris experiences for me. However don't you feel that economical micromanagement in mid and late game is unwieldy even on friendly MP games?

 

[Nawolith]

Yes, roleplaying MPs are also one of the best Stellaris experiences for me. However don't you feel that economical micromanagement in mid and late game is unwieldy?

Mh, hard to say. I am the kind of player who settles three planets or four and thats it. All other races get extinct, so i don't have to care about new planets i didn't develop from the ground up. Blow them up or purge the Xeno-scum. Besides that i have a few friends who try to micro everything to the max (despite not doing much more then i do) so the game runs on speed 2 for the most time. Also when more then 2 people start a new round of Stellaris we don't continue it. So we never really get that far or just eradicate our problems.

 

[giant_sloth]

Ok, i have read enough of this thread to see what most people think of the game. As for me, i play Stellaris with friends for RP reasons and that means we turn off the crisis and don't really care about the AI. The meat is the player-interaction and this species pack will make a "fine addition to our collection". And to all those who are certainly going to downvote this post and critize me for enjoying this game and DLC the way it is right now: You have no right to 'critizise' me with a dislike for something i enjoy. If you can even call that a critique.

Not all of us are lucky enough to have enough friends for a MP game.

 

[Fampat]

Bro, just do a bug fixing update. Please focus some time on this dev season on some new content, but give yourselves enough time to fix the bugs before the new content lands....test test test!!!!!

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/20...oor-treatment-low-pay-and-mismanaged-layoffs/

 

[Nawolith]

Not all of us are lucky enough to have enough friends for a MP game.

True, but i stand by my point. I have fun in this game at it current state and i am happy with this character pack.

 

[Cat_Fuzz]

True, but i stand by my point. I have fun in this game at it current state and i am happy with this character pack.

More power to you.

There are a large number of us however who would like a great single player experience, which is currently lacking.

EDIT: While I disagree with those who are here to make petulant claims or are just trying to stoke conflict, there as many who are trying to provide reasonable, constructive criticism and you likewise can't stop them from expressing such views.

 

[Maethendias]

Ok, i have read enough of this thread to see what most people think of the game. As for me, i play Stellaris with friends for RP reasons and that means we turn off the crisis and don't really care about the AI. The meat is the player-interaction and this species pack will make a "fine addition to our collection". And to all those who are certainly going to downvote this post and critize me for enjoying this game and DLC the way it is right now: You have no right to 'critizise' me with a dislike for something i enjoy. If you can even call that a critique.

EDIT:

Seeing the obvious direction this is going: Don't just dislike me, awnser me! If it's jsut a simple "I don't agree with your viewpoint" respect my opinion and donvote me if you really must. (Which i think is unnecessary). But if you really want to talk against me, do so and don't hide behind a simple "Dislike"-Button.

why do people care so much for arbitrary "emojis" on their comments....

like someone said, this aint facebook...

instead of complaining about "muh dislikes", how about contributing to the discussions at hand instead

 

[Nawolith]

why do people care so much for arbitrary "emojis" on their comments....

like someone said, this aint facebook...

instead of complaining about "muh dislikes", how about contributing to the discussions at hand instead

Well i see a tendecy in this thread to just downvote people who are actually excited for this pack. And i rather don't want to leave this here and jsut read it, but give my 2 cents to it and explain my position, which i did. Plus i think it's unfair to kill peoples excitement there is a post on page 18 or so i think where one person complains about his hype being killed due to the downvote thing.

As stated the discussion about a better SP experience is not of my concern, since i only play this game in MP and in the RP i do the AI doesn't matter to the point that the current state of the game makes it unejoyable. And forgive me, but i don#t see really a discussion. Mostly it's people (rightfully i guess) complaining about the games status. And people getting disliked for liking this pack.

 

[ImaTomato]

Ok, i have read enough of this thread to see what most people think of the game. As for me, i play Stellaris with friends for RP reasons and that means we turn off the crisis and don't really care about the AI. The meat is the player-interaction and this species pack will make a "fine addition to our collection". And to all those who are certainly going to downvote this post and critize me for enjoying this game and DLC the way it is right now: You have no right to 'critizise' me with a dislike for something i enjoy. If you can even call that a critique.

EDIT:

Seeing the obvious direction this is going: Don't just dislike me, awnser me! If it's jsut a simple "I don't agree with your viewpoint" respect my opinion and donvote me if you really must. (Which i think is unnecessary). But if you really want to talk against me, do so and don't hide behind a simple "Dislike"-Button.

Because it completely misses the point?The game is still broken the fact that you don't care doesn't mean that they shouldn't fix it or that it is not an issue . And the vast majority of people play the game in singleplayer.

 

[Elm0__]

Eh, screw the likes and dislikes. Last month I got downvoted into oblivion by suggesting that, basing on stream, heresies in CK3 look over the top. Turned out I was right.

The most important stuff is to just contribute your opinion into discussion in civil way.

 

[Maethendias]

Well i see a tendecy in this thread to just downvote people who are actually excited for this pack. And i rather don't want to leave this here and jsut read it, but give my 2 cents to it and explain my position, which i did. Plus i think it's unfair to kill peoples excitement there is a post on page 18 or so i think where one person complains about his hype being killed due to the downvote thing.

As stated the discussion about a better SP experience is not of my concern, since i only play this game in MP and in the RP i do the AI doesn't matter to the point that the current state of the game makes it unejoyable. And forgive me, but i don#t see really a discussion. Mostly it's people (rightfully i guess) complaining about the games status. And people getting disliked for liking this pack.

first, then you are inherently not contributing to the discussion

second, if youd READ the comments in this thread, and you dont even need to go deep, you know what people are saying here

third, you literally asked for "downvotes"

people arent getting "disagreed" without explanation, there are literally 20 pages of comments explaining that people dont downvote others for "being excited for the pack", they are being disagreed for diffrent reasons

 

[Nawolith]

Because it completely misses the point?The game is still broken the fact that you don't care doesn't mean that they shouldn't fix it or that it is not an issue . And the vast majority of people play the game in singleplayer.

And i, good Sir, don't disagree with you. The game should be fun for all who paid for it and play it. But i bought this game too and i am happy with it at the moment. I don#t want to discourage you from your rightfull fight, but let me and others have our fun.

 

[Nawolith]

first, then you are inherently not contributing to the discussion

second, if youd READ the comments in this thread, and you dont even need to go deep, you know what people are saying here

third, you literally asked for "downvotes"

First, like said in another post i don't see a real discussion. And i have a right to say what i think.

What exactly is the second point? Could you rephrase it maybe?

I am merely reacting to the trend i noticed.

 

[Maethendias]

And i, good Sir, don't disagree with you. The game should be fun for all who paid for it and play it. But i bought this game too and i am happy with it at the moment. I don#t want to discourage you from your rightfull fight, but let me and others have our fun.

if you are having fun with the game as it is.... good for you

is that what you want to hear? cause alot of people DONT have fun with stellaris, are dissapointed....and then you come in and just say "screw all of you, only i matter, screw everyone that dislikes the game cause i like the game"!?

its like, why are you commenting here

 

[Garfazz Steamfang]

Ok, i have read enough of this thread to see what most people think of the game. As for me, i play Stellaris with friends for RP reasons and that means we turn off the crisis and don't really care about the AI. The meat is the player-interaction and this species pack will make a "fine addition to our collection". And to all those who are certainly going to downvote this post and critize me for enjoying this game and DLC the way it is right now: You have no right to 'critizise' me with a dislike for something i enjoy. If you can even call that a critique.

EDIT:

Seeing the obvious direction this is going: Don't just dislike me, awnser me! If it's jsut a simple "I don't agree with your viewpoint" respect my opinion and donvote me if you really must. (Which i think is unnecessary). But if you really want to talk against me, do so and don't hide behind a simple "Dislike"-Button.

While i agree that Stellaris can be a fertile soil for roleplay experience i can't split up roleplay and possibilies of gameplay and for me Stellaris dramaticly lack of the second. Sure more species archetypes are good but the options of roleplay are severly limited by the game.

- First of all outside of war you can't do nothing so you can't really play a galactic negociator, big economic guy, intel cunning empire or pacifist empire manager (internal politics) coz the mechanics aren't fleshed out.

- Secondly the game clearly lack of diversity in planet types and planet modifiers, events, civics, origins and mechanics. What about if you want to play an ecologist pacific negociator who want to preserve biosphere of planets and have influence on galactic scale? You can't really.


While i agree that Stellaris has a good potential to roleplay it isn't enough fleshed out to enjoy the experience. Right now the game has little to do outside of war, planets are always the same, colonization, terraforming and primitive interactions and events are lackluster and too few, ethos aren't unique enough between each other, ascension perks are kind of dull and would benefit of a rework (specially biological one and the posibility to play genetic enhanced cyborg/psi species for exemple) and civics/origins aren't enough to really have options to play diferents empires.

So i would like myself to enjoy a good roleplay adventure on this game but i'm frustrated coz i can't. The game wasn't really fleshed out since release and there is still so much work to do to give an enjoyable experience to players (and according to what have been done since 4 years we can ask us if the game will be, one day, enjoyable) . Honestly i find endless space 2 clearly better if you want to roleplay some kind of galactic empire coz empires provided are really diferents from each others.

 

[TheFunMachine]

i was expecting that the next update would be something small-ish like another species pack.

but i have to say that the undead theme would lend itself to a flavorful new fallen empire (maybe an alternate version of the xenophobes or the spiritualists?) and might also be a cool endgame or midgame crisis, so it's a bit disappointing that it's only a "normal" species pack with portraits, shipset and some perks and not some storypack/species pack hybrid.

Gosh, didn't think of this -- necroids could definitely be an interesting bedrock for another fallen empire type/crisis event.

 

[Cassilda]

I really like to see a "no habitats" or some hard cap rule for them, along with a crisis rework. I mostly play very long single player campaigns on large maps and when habitats become too many the game is too slow and the wars became a sort of boring chore, like fighting WWI in space.