Stellaris Dev Diary #160 - Origins Full Reveal

[Miesha]

Galactic Doorstep and no random gateways in the galaxy could be fun. Noone else gets gateways.

 

[Spaceception]

In the past people have complained that the content of each DLC is disconnected from the content of other DLCs, and lamented that this meant hives and machine empires would never get meaningful attention in new DLCs. So now these empire types do get some special attention, and now the complaint is you can't access some of the content without having two DLCs.

Well, this is just my opinion, but I think it's a case by case thing.

Like for example, you need Synthetic dawn, and Apocalypse to build a Nanobot diffuser, and that makes sense. Colossi should be locked behind Apocalypse, because that's one of its main features. But if you happen to have Synthetic Dawn, you can get a special function for it if you play as a Machine Empire.

On the other hand, Tree of life looks like it can stand on its own. And on top of that, content is already lacking for Hive minds, why lock it behind another DLC?

If you have mechanics/features from two DLCs, that's cool, and if buying both can combine them to give you something new, that's even better. But if it can stand on its own, then it makes more sense to just lock it behind one.

 

[verybad]

Origins are not meant to be balanced against each other, but rather balanced within themselves (as in they don't start in severe resource deficits or "feel broken" by themselves). There are Origins that are "stronger" than other Origins.

So many people in this discussion are complaining about balance, I hope that they will look at this part of the original post again. They're NOT SUPPOSED to be balanced. They're storylines. That's it. probably best is they're limited in some way in MP however.

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

So many people in this discussion are complaining about balance, I hope that they will look at this part of the original post again. They're NOT SUPPOSED to be balanced. They're storylines. That's it. probably best is they're limited in some way in MP however.

Thanks for pointing this out!

 

[Fermi's_Solution]

So many people in this discussion are complaining about balance, I hope that they will look at this part of the original post again. They're NOT SUPPOSED to be balanced. They're storylines. That's it. probably best is they're limited in some way in MP however.

If they really were just storylines, then that might be the case. But in reality, the majority offer gameplay benefits, and some give more gameplay benefits than others.

That doesn't change just because a dev said it.

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

If they really were just storylines, then that might be the case. But in reality, the majority offer gameplay benefits, and some give more gameplay benefits than others.

That doesn't change just because a dev said it.

I don't see a problem with that. Multiplayer already relies on house rules to remain balanced.

 

[SnakeInATopHat]

I was hoping there would be more.

 

[Spaceception]

I was hoping there would be more.

I was reading their social media earlier, and they said something along the lines of needing to start somewhere, so I think we can expect more in future patches. 18 isn't bad, and there are some interesting options. I'm just mixed on what some can do.

 

[Gaming Master Anthony]

People are complaining about no hive world but there’s a synthetic world. But my theory on the tree of life is that you start on a have world, the tree being the thing that keeps it alive. And the saplings you seed throughout the galaxy give a terraform type once you get that ascension perk unlocked.

 

[G S Palmer]

People are complaining about no hive world but there’s a synthetic world. But my theory on the tree of life is that you start on a have world, the tree being the thing that keeps it alive. And the saplings you seed throughout the galaxy give a terraform type once you get that ascension perk unlocked.

What exactly are you basing this "theory" on?

My theory is that it does exactly what it says it does.

 

[Mauer]

Awww, that Galactic Doorstep one is disappointing. I was expecting it to be some kind of L Cluster start

It could be interesting, if it starts activated.

 

[makaramus]

and performance

no I am serius if its not fixed I would not buy any more dlc because its not fun to play anymore fix it!

 

[verybad]

People are complaining about no hive world but there’s a synthetic world. But my theory on the tree of life is that you start on a have world, the tree being the thing that keeps it alive. And the saplings you seed throughout the galaxy give a terraform type once you get that ascension perk unlocked.

Don't know whether that works as a theory for how Tree of Life actually works, but that could be a very cool perk to give to hive worlds.

 

[Attitude Adjuster]

Why not a Alien Invasion survivor origin? Like what happened in Terra Invicta and other sci-fi stories?

I think this could be great if done well,

Basically starting with an undiscovered rival, and you are unable to conduct diplomacy with them, and get a boost if you conquer them.

It's definitely a great story generator

 

[Monturiol]

Are there any bonuses to doomsday to compensate for the fact that you will inevitably lose what will probably be your most productive planet?

I certainly hope not, if I wanted to play on a perfectly flat difficulty surface I'd take up... Pong.

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

I certainly hope not, if I wanted to play on a perfectly flat difficulty surface I'd take up... Pong.

You get bonus production from your homeworld to help fuel your push away from it.

 

[Monturiol]

so if you don't have Federations, and you are playing as a normal, nonhivemind, non-Lithoid Empire and you don't own any DLC, your choices will be...
Prosperous Unification
Lost Colony
Galactic Doorstep (which sounds basically useless and tells nothing about your species actual origin)
There Seriously needs to be more origins available for free! That's a pitiful selection, and leaves out so many possible backstories for species! What if My empire was unified through brutal warfare?? Shouldn't there at least be a "Planatary Conquest" origin?

I love this features and a lot of these origins but I'm disappointed there are literally only 3 options available for everyone, one of which is useless and another one of which is very niche.

I think this is kind of an unfair criticism.
At the moment 0-DLC-ers have the equivalent of 1 origin, now in a free update they'll have 3, and still you whine?

"Not enough content for my money" is one of the few problems that Stellaris doesn't have.
"Carelessly shovels barely-tested, negligently unbalanced, mechanically disjointed, I-did-it-for-the-memes tier additional content onto the top of creaking, crumbling foundations that can't support it", yes, but no-one can accuse them of insufficient quantity of content.

 

[Mavkiel]

none of those origins really wow'ed me. Some of them seem like they might be neat, but information provided is scarce. I think the most glaring example is the galactic doorstop. If it's really just a bloody gate in your home system, talk about a letdown. Now if it were an actual unique start, a closed off system for instance that'd be neat. Or if it had some other unique interaction with the network...

 

[Scottbert]

So... what DLC do I have to buy to get that scrollbar? I'm starting to feel that Stellaris mood again.

 

[Fermi's_Solution]

I don't see a problem with that. Multiplayer already relies on house rules to remain balanced.

That's a problem, not a solution.