Stellaris Dev Diary #159 - Galactic Community

[Ridixo]

Step One: Form Security Council
Step Two: Get on Security Council
Step Three: Lower Security Council membership number to 1
Step Four: Say "I love democracy"

You should try politics, i can see you would win

 

[Dmitrius]

It depends on what Resolutions the Community has passed. As I mention in a different response, if you let the militarists have their way, they might pass resolutions that condone and enable "containment" of threats to the Community.



It means that you're doing something the Community has outlawed. By itself, it has no teeth. If the Community enacts certain Resolutions, you could get Denounced, have various Sanctions applied to you, or be a valid target for "corrective" action.

Oh cool, does this mean we might end up with ideological wars with some/most nations aligned along ethical grounds. That would be really interesting.

 

[Tamwin5]

You should try politics, i can see you would win

Oh no, I'm not brave enough for politics.

 

[Ridixo]

Oh no, I'm no brave enough for politics.

Lucky us

 

[DominusNovus]

I think that leaving the bidding for the Galactic Market untouched is not the best solution. It is just an RNG situation at the moment, there should be some more interaction.

 

[Archon87]

I'm curious how certain special empire types will play the GC game. Gestalt empires have been mentioned, and really what kind of sanctions can you really place on an empire that has no trade and no pop happiness? Also, what about empires that aren't genocidal per se, but still unsavory, like Driven Assimilators, Criminal Syndicates, and Barbaric Despoilers? Do they get special interactions and/or penalties to diplomacy and/or are barred from joining the GC?

 

[Foefaller]

To use your earlier example about working on something and it going wrong. Key difference here is when I'm working on something, I communicate with a client to set expectations, so they know what they are getting. When it doesn't go right, you can see what wasn't met and you work with them to change problems.

If you said you'd deliver something and you get problems, then go radio silent, in your example I would very much expect that client would think twice about hiring you again.

This update looks great, and is something I have hoped for since 1.0 released around 3/4 years ago, but I would hesitate to purchase on the first day, given quite rightly people's concerns about bugs and broken mechanics that don't get fixed for a long time, as we've seen in the years since release.

EDIT: Back on topic - if you don't opt into the GC initially, can you apply later, and get voted in?

How much communication is sufficient communication though? It's obvious by some comments in this thread and elsewhere that there are those who wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than daily updates. Or want every dev diary to just be a list of what's been fixed in the dev build and nothing else, as if working on a content update and fixing bugs/AI are mutually exclusive things.

Could there be a bit more communication, even if it's just "we're working on that?" Sure, I'm not going to say no to more openness, but when someone takes a dump on a new feature because they're angry about the state of the AI atm, I'm not sure a "we're working on that" is going to make them happy.

 

[StJimmyRocks92]

It would be nice if there were the possibility of two rival galactic communities.

I’ll go make my own UN, blackjack and hookers! (and by which I mean planet crackers and slaves)

 

[Wirsing]

actualy, i remember reading theyr comments on the issues, they talked about that , and that they have a team that is working exlusively on those parts ( AI, performance) .

the fact that new contements come out, doesn't mean they are ignoring the issues or negleting it .

I would appreciate a source for those comments, if you can remember them.

To your second point:
I don't mind that PDX is creating new content.
More luck to them.
My problem is that they're trying to build a house on a foundation that is riddled with cracks.
What will happen to an AI that is barely able to keep its economy intact?
What will happen to the mid and lategame performance when more and more calculations are dumped on your CPU?

Nearly a year has passed since the release of Megacorps and most of the problems it introduced are still there...
I don't want to imagine what a Federation release, that will come with its own bugs and issues, will do to a game that is still struggling with the last revamp.

 

[Lord Hoosier]

Can normal synthetic empires join?

 

[Zetesofos]

Can normal synthetic empires join?

I don't see why not. I feel like the only empire that can't join are the fanatic purifier ones - all others (gestalt included) should be able to join.

 

[Kolonel]

Been a while since I fired up Stellaris and sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but will we still have actual Federations as we have them now in the game?
Can we join the GC as a Federation as a whole, or does the Federation dissolve when its members join the GC? If it doesn't dissolve, how will the Federation members treat one of their own being in violation with Galactic Law: does the original Federation take precedence (meaning they will defend their member) or will the GC?

Oh, and is it possible to scheme from within the GC, take sole control of the council due to some crisis, and then institute a glorious Galactic Empire with yourself as its just and indisputable leader?

Personally, I am more interested to see what the accompanying patch brings: I hope to see more ways to have meaningful relationships with other empires, more ways to influence opinions and create rivalries and friendships.

 

[MateuszS]

Two questions:
1. Should I be part of the GC to have access to galactic market?
2. Can GC outlaw slave trade in the market (not sure if this would also affect non-GC members)?

 

[Tamwin5]

There should be a resolution to move the galactic market hub (much more expensive than the initial resolution to create it). The existing market holder would automatically re-propose the current location,

Should an empire loose the Galactic Market hub, they instead get a location called "Former Galactic Market Hub" which grants 5% market price reduction, rather then the 10% of main holder.

Also the market nomination process needs to be fixed. Currently it's just RNG that doesn't even care about trade value. IMO the way it should work is that it takes the trade value of the proposed planet as the base chance for all empires. That number is then increased by 50% for each additional level of proposal added. All chances are then reduced by 75% of the highest value. This would straight up prevent an empire not in the top 25% from getting the market, and would push the highest few significantly above the competition, disproportionately for higher values.

 

[Wirsing]

How much communication is sufficient communication though? It's obvious by some comments in this thread and elsewhere that there are those who wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than daily updates. Or want every dev diary to just be a list of what's been fixed in the dev build and nothing else, as if working on a content update and fixing bugs/AI are mutually exclusive things.

Could there be a bit more communication, even if it's just "we're working on that?" Sure, I'm not going to say no to more openness, but when someone takes a dump on a new feature because they're angry about the state of the AI atm, I'm not sure a "we're working on that" is going to make them happy.

One Dev Diary that is addressing the issues, including a statement or maybe a roadmap (I know, wishful thinking) would be more than enough for me. At least some bone would be appreciated and it would go a long way to belay some of my concerns.

 

[Riekopo]

Devs should look at Galactic Civilizations 3 and Endless Space 2 and Civ 6 for ideas on diplomacy.

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

Devs should look at Galactic Civilizations 3 and Endless Space 2 and Civ 6 for ideas on diplomacy.

I'm liking their current ideas. Moreso than what I've seen of Civ 6, certainly. That game is a MESS.

 

[Verx90]

I would appreciate a source for those comments, if you can remember them.

To your second point:
I don't mind that PDX is creating new content.
More luck to them.
My problem is that they're trying to build a house on a foundation that is riddled with cracks.
What will happen to an AI that is barely able to keep its economy intact?
What will happen to the mid and lategame performance when more and more calculations are dumped on your CPU?

Nearly a year has passed since the release of Megacorps and most of the problems it introduced are still there...
I don't want to imagine what a Federation release, that will come with its own bugs and issues, will do to a game that is still struggling with the last revamp.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ris-dev-diary-159-galactic-community.1275057/

its one of those, looking for the others may be harder, because i didn't rated them , so i can't realy find them easily.

EDIT: link is f***

 

[LystAP]

Would Crises be able to infiltrate and obstruct the Galactic Community? Like the Contingency and it’s synth infiltrators.

 

[Emperor_Vindicare]

Can you add a law for heavily centralized federations that give some of the diplomatic weight of each member to the president? After all, their job is to represent and lead their coalition.