Stellaris Dev Diary #159 - Galactic Community

[verybad]

That would assume there's a full correlation between size and corruption, which is not necessarily the case. Small countries can have bloated and inefficient bureaucracies as well.

Except the base cost is for the government, not the size of the nation. If you're paying for a bloated government, then you're paying for more jobs in that government not resource creation or research jobs. Paying for too many bureaucrats is the same as paying for too many police.

However an interesting turn on this would be to have unnecessary Bureaucrat jobs put a benefit towards crime creation.

 

[Emperor_Vindicare]

So huhhhhh

What about the Interestellar Assembly?

I want them to add a resolution that determines what planet the community actually meets on, and you could set this to be an interstellar assembly if you had one. Owner who hosts the meetings gets a boost to diplomatic weight.

 

[hfel]

Except the base cost is for the government, not the size of the nation. If you're paying for a bloated government, then you're paying for more jobs in that government not resource creation or research jobs. Paying for too many bureaucrats is the same as paying for too many police.

However an interesting turn on this would be to have unnecessary Bureaucrat jobs put a benefit towards crime creation.

Well, it's implicitly for the size of the nation as you have to keep growing the bureaucracy to maintain administrative capacity. There is some optimal level of bureaucratic size for every level of empire size; at the moment, Stellaris only carries explicit penalties for staying below that optimum, there is however no penalty for going above it (other than the already stated pop job opportunity costs and upkeep). More importantly, there is no reason that the bureaucracy would ever grow beyond its means, which is however a phenomenon commonly observed in real life.

Basically I just dislike the naive implicit assumption in Stellaris that hiring more bureaucrats solves administrative problems. I realize I'm asking for more fleshed-out mechanics though.

 

[MatthewP]

I realize I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I have to say, I am pretty disappointed Rampaging Swarms/Fanatic Purifiers can't join the galactic community. I just love the idea of them constantly submitting proposals like "All inferior races must submit themselves to be eaten or they will be in Breach of Galactic Law."

 

[Methone]

I realize I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I have to say, I am pretty disappointed Rampaging Swarms/Fanatic Purifiers can't join the galactic community. I just love the idea of them constantly submitting proposals like "All inferior races must submit themselves to be eaten or they will be in Breach of Galactic Law."

Why would they recognize the authority of a herd of prey/collection of abominations?

 

[Radene]

I realize I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I have to say, I am pretty disappointed Rampaging Swarms/Fanatic Purifiers can't join the galactic community. I just love the idea of them constantly submitting proposals like "All inferior races must submit themselves to be eaten or they will be in Breach of Galactic Law."

That's simply not realistic. Unless FP/DS/DE are in fact just massive trolls. Then it would make sense.

 

[Valentin Vattista]

Why would they recognize the authority of a herd of prey/collection of abominations?

They don't. They just sit there and constantly violate galactic law while still demanding everyone else to subjugate themselves.

 

[Methone]

They don't. They just sit there and constantly violate galactic law while still demanding everyone else to subjugate themselves.

But... they don't want others to subjugate themselves. They don't want you to be slaves. They don't want you to be upset. They want you to die.

 

[Verx90]

They don't. They just sit there and constantly violate galactic law while still demanding everyone else to subjugate themselves.

they kinda already do that, by keeping insulting evryone for the fun of it .

 

[Agent K]

Why is the galactic community a separate thing, rather than a type of federation?

 

[xTesh]

Anything actually helpful coming up rather then DLC content? I want to see some AI improvements, fixing of bugs and the usual stuff a community asks for.

 

[Promethian]

We need a special diplomatic action in the trade screen with this. Give 10 favors in exchange for a 10 year assurance of no war declaration. It effectively puts both sides in the after war state minus the open borders. This way we get a way to bully people into supporting the resolutions we want.

 

[UltimateTobi]

Why is the galactic community a separate thing, rather than a type of federation?

Because everyone can be in it, even when they're in different Feds. It's good. It's a UN afterall, not a NATO.

 

[Valentin Vattista]

But... they don't want others to subjugate themselves. They don't want you to be slaves. They don't want you to be upset. They want you to die.

Subjugation to their demands that is.

 

[Edorath]

I realize I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I have to say, I am pretty disappointed Rampaging Swarms/Fanatic Purifiers can't join the galactic community. I just love the idea of them constantly submitting proposals like "All inferior races must submit themselves to be eaten or they will be in Breach of Galactic Law."

Resolution: Get in my belly
I don’t know why everyone is downvoting this it’s pretty funny, even if it’s obviously never going to be a thing ingame

 

[Darkspysrival]

There's a Brotherhood of Steel and Institute logo in those pictures.

 

[UltimateTobi]

There's a Brotherhood of Steel and Institute logo in those pictures.
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So they did learn from Gamebear?

 

[PalmettoExplorer14]

This is awesome! It adds a lot of roleplaying features to the game and not to mention it makes things interesting.

I'm also looking forward to seeing all of the Origins too! I hope one of them lets us start off with Psionic theory technology. If not I'm pretty sure someone will make a mod to do that!

 

[G S Palmer]

We need a special diplomatic action in the trade screen with this. Give 10 favors in exchange for a 10 year assurance of no war declaration. It effectively puts both sides in the after war state minus the open borders. This way we get a way to bully people into supporting the resolutions we want.

What I'd like to see is the ability to ask for favors in return for a guarantee of independence.

 

[Promethian]

What I'd like to see is the ability to ask for favors in return for a guarantee of independence.

It would have to be timed or the favors not be consumed while the guarantee is active. Otherwise you are paying a one off for a long term, potentially infinite service.