Stellaris Dev Diary #155 - Origins

[Gothbert]

I am assuming two possible Origins include "Lost Fallen Empire Colony" and "Awoken Ancient Empire colony." I forget which mod these were in but thought the idea was always sound. One of the origins was that the player's empire is a lost colony to a Fallen Empire that exists in the game. I believe the other option was that the player's empire is a colony of a long-dead and forgotten ancient empire whose citizens have begun waking up from some form of hibernation or cryo-sleep.

Would also be nice if origin related to the Greater Terran Union was an option. For those unfamiliar, Greater Terran Union was a playthrough done by YouTube channel Templin Institute under the story title Stellaris Invictus. Basically, Earth is invaded by a Fallen Empire and spends several decades fighting a guerrilla war. Once the aliens occupiers are driven off Earth, the surviving humans reverse engineer the alien technology to obtain FTL flight and begin building an interstellar empire, thus starting the Stellaris playthrough.

In both circumstances, you could tie some fun events to these origins to help spice up the game during each playthrough.

 

[TheGrinningMan]

Calling it now -- some sort of "ecological collapse" is going to be included as an origin. At least two pre-made civs (the Voor Technocracy and Chinorr Combine) have, in their backstories, homeworlds that used to be entirely different biomes.

 

[GKMoggleMog]

Only problem is that the descriptions are too specific, forcing the player into whatever pre written backstory you wrote. Like post apocalyptic says it was nuclear fire when there are many other scenarios that could cause an apocalypse, and it says they rebuild from the ashes, also forcing the player into that as well.

So a solution to this would be to make origins editable, or make them vague instead of detailed, with maybe an example of what they are.

The extensive role play options are the reason I have so much time in this game and continue replaying it, and it is the reason I buy every bit of DLC, so please at least make the origins text editable, which I believe would be the best solution.

 

[Ren Nobody]

Never noticed it, my bad, what did he say in this DD? And yes people are still posting about it, because it's an important matter to just... I dont know... being able to play the game?

I'm fine with new content, i bought all DLC, but with the current state of the game it seem's concerning that it's done to fix it, and let us enjoy this new content

Actualy it was Jamor in the last dd my bad. If you want to read what he said exactly go into the dd, select dev respons only, should be the last dd.

And i get that it is important, and if that is the reason you can not enjoy the next dlc etc.

They were enough threads about it. Enough posts. I normaly do not post in this forum. More of a lurker.
But it feels like every second post i read in every thread no matter the topic falls back to "but what about the late game fix, atleast give us a statment" etc.

SO pls, even if its in the dd, agree with the comment that talks about it and do not bring it up every second post you people make (generalising i know), but the people should know if the are meant by this.

 

[Skrelk]

I agree very strongly with @GKMoggleMog that the descriptions are too specific. I've been wanting to play an empire recovering from an industrial accident induced apocalypse.

 

[Skrelk]

Also, I REALLY hope this next expansion covers diplomacy.

 

[Big Dead One]

What the other new origins you think we will get?
I for one hope we get a Nomadic Empire finally. That is something people have been talking about since Stellaris came out and the origin system looks a nice place to add it. Tell me that having a huge spaceship for homeworld isn't a great and awesome thing

We already have Tomb World and Gaia World start, how about a few more? Hive World start for Hive Minds, Machine World for Machine Intelligence. For regular empire, maybe we can start on a Relic World, or even Habitat or Ring World.

I would also like to see a Lost Colony origin for empires like the Commonwealth of Man (as I have mentioned earlier in this discussion).

Also, there should be a Machine Cult origin for Spiritualist empires, similar to Mechanist. Praise the Omnissiah!

 

[Momento Mori]

What's the relevance of this DLC or any other if the late game lag makes the game unplayable in its current state? Who i s going to spend money into a product that doesnt work? I know I wont.

 

[G S Palmer]

So does this mean that we can finally play a race of Fanatical Purifiers who are too lazy to do any purifying themselves and instead have robots to do it?

I am assuming two possible Origins include "Lost Fallen Empire Colony" and "Awoken Ancient Empire colony." I forget which mod these were in but thought the idea was always sound. One of the origins was that the player's empire is a lost colony to a Fallen Empire that exists in the game. I believe the other option was that the player's empire is a colony of a long-dead and forgotten ancient empire whose citizens have begun waking up from some form of hibernation or cryo-sleep.

Those are from Guilli's Planetary Modifiers.

 

[Methone]

So does this mean that we can finally play a race of Fanatical Purifiers who are too lazy to do any purifying themselves and instead have robots to do it?

Mechanist requires Materialist, and if you take that you don't have enough ethics points to be Purifier.

Of course, nothing's stopping a Purifier from using robots anyway.

 

[andxtiltone]

I'm really digging the UI and artwork for the origins. Can't wait to see this feature expanded upon in future updates! I know it's not final, and things are subject to change, but one suggestion I have to improve the UI a bit would be to alphabetize the selections so they are a little easier to navigate through and find the one you are looking for. It might not be necessary if the number of origins is small, but as more are added via mods, and in future updates, the list could become quite long.

 

[King Reek]

Ctrl F -> Performance, optimization.

Nothing found, not interested.

 

[laptor]

[...] adding a whole lot of new Origins that will add interesting starting positions [...]

We know altered homeworlds (tomb or gaia) but will there be starting positions like changed home system or even neighboring systems?

 

[Meshed Gear]

Feels like this has been suggested for as long as civics have been a thing

 

[FiddleSticks96]

Very interesting indeed. This looks like it will open up the door for some very interesting starts. When/if Habitats are ever expanded upon, an origin that lets you start on a Habitat rather than a planet (perhaps a Habitat hovering over an uninhabitable planet like Frozen, Molten, or Toxic; their homeworld having been ruined in the past, forcing them to build said Habitat to survive). Starting in a federation (when federations aren't a joke anyway) would also be an interesting origin.

I would like to think that Hive Mind civics will receive the same attention that other civics have received by the release of this expansion. It would be very dissatisfying if it that were not the case.

Fanatic Purifier with Tomb world start is my favorite way of playing purifier. My lore reason is that my spiritualists survived nuclear fire and only interact with other species who are worthy. So far no other species has survived after the Armageddon bombardment to interact with.

Neet. My FP/PA lore is that my species repelled an alien invasion while they were in the "Early Space" era, but the cost was dire. Detonating thousands of nuclear warheads across the planet within the span of a single day did put an end to the invasion, but had some...other consequences. After having been nearly wiped out, the primitive species swore revenge on the uncaring galaxy that nearly destroyed them. Thus were born the "Khellzan Revengers."

I really REALLY hope that Fanatic Purifier/Post-Apocalyptic will still be a valid configuration or I'll have no choice but to cheat that back in.

 

[metalosse]

I hope there will be a bunch of "boring" origins, so there is still a majority of normal but still diverse empires.

 

[RoverStorm]

Will the Genocidal civics (and while we're on the topic, also the "criminal" ones in Criminal Heritage and Barbaric Despoiler) be converted into Origins as well, or will they be a separate thing?

I mostly ask because an extremely common combo is to take both Post-Apocalyptic and Fanatic Purifiers, which lets one "aggressively terraform" enemy planets into good climates for the purifiers, and also makes a very good role-play story as well. You also didn't mention them on the list, and they fall under the category of "Can't be removed or added post-game start."

 

[FiddleSticks96]

"aggressively terraform"

I prefer the term "Percussive Terraformation."

 

[Methone]

I prefer the term "Percussive Terraformation."

"Terrorform"

 

[valergain]

I really hope colonial offshoot is an origin you can pick!