Hoi4 Dev Diary - Telemetry and data

[Kommunist Fried Chicken]

Well, there's no telemetry about navy or spy? I felt disappointed about the lack of them.

And mentioned the focus trees, i feel the focus trees are too huge to finish(at least for the nations like SOV), even in the mid of WWII, it seems that the army is not fully prepared for the battle(or same for industry)

For infantry equipments, they easy come easy go. If not suffer from losses, it's easy to gather a lot, but if the war not so easy, they will be used very fast, for marching every inches need the cost of blood in the late game.

 

[pheonicia]

I mostly use nukes against uk and japan from personal recollection, and I don't think I've ever had to nuke the ussr.

 

[C1 Ariete]

Please also let me know why you really like nuking Paris in the comments below.

1) Sick fun - 90%
2) Not much air supremacy needed, usually no radars in the area - 1%
3) located at the centre of WW2 battleground, so just one bomber away from every faction's KABOOMBOOM airstrip! - 1%
3) no repercussions on public opinion, stability or war support if I do it, so why not? Stop me you dirty hippies! - 1%
4) War is fun - 1%
5) Bombs are fun - 1%
6) I like the animation, although I feel sick to the stomach as soon as I receive the news reel about the "City of Lights going Dark Forever" (well played there PDX-UN human rights watchdog, well played indeed) - 5%

 

[MR2]

Thank you for these insights. I would appreciate more of these, say semi-annually or even quarterly.

 

[Yeti-Strom]

To be honest, Me and my freinds dont play the new dlc anymore, and we wont buy the new dlcs once they come out because we hate the new supply system, it doesnt work for us and it if frustrating if you cant use it. At the moment we just play on 10.5 again and we dont really miss the new focous trees and tank designer

 

[him_15]

A bit surprised so many players choose easy or very easy mode.

 

[nilia]

I love these stats, hope they become regular xD
Easy/Very Easy is surprising. I prefer hard/very hard.

 

[ItThatAltersSanity]

A bit surprised so many players choose easy or very easy mode.

Easy/Very Easy is surprising. I prefer hard/very hard.

That came up last time, alongside "I should not have asked forum readers to PM me their answer to why they play Easy/Very Easy. Or at least, I should have asked someone else to be PM'd".

A lot of players (back then) considered HoI 4 to be their relaxation game. They play other games when they want to test their mettle, but they prefer to just let HoI play out some strange ahistorical scenario that they can then comfortably react to with Easy mode buffs.

 

[28lobster]

Finally I'll bring us to Division meta. this might be surprising but meta divisions while definitely popular, are not as ubiquitous as online discussion would have you believe.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions on this. 21% of people just use 9-0 pure infantry, the starting template for many nations. To me that says many players find division design uninteresting/unimportant and ignore the system. It works out because 18w is at least decent in most terrains, but I don't think it's some great achievement that there's no meta division on top. I'd be interested to see the division type breakdown by difficulty in single player. SP vs MP would be an interesting comparison as well.

 

[ltccone]

The reason I don't play at the higher difficulty levels is that I prefer higher diffculty levels to have my opponents buffed, not my country being nerfed. I usually play EAI on hard or very hard.

 

[GSP Jr]

Do these stats include modded and Ironman?

 

[Nevrion]

Is it funny or creepy that Paradox collects these data and the player just can agree with it if he wants to play the game ... ?

 

[HugsAndSnuggles]

For example many people really need to check their infantry equipment stockpile late game
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Seriously players really enjoy making infantry equipment 3

And for some reason bicycle equipment is not that popular >.>

 

[Gort11]

The reason I don't play at the higher difficulty levels is that I prefer higher diffculty levels to have my opponents buffed, not my country being nerfed. I usually play EAI on hard or very hard.

Yeah, if I'm after a challenge I use the sliders to increase the bonuses the countries I'll be fighting get, I don't use the difficulty settings.

 

[billcorr]

Perhaps because nuking Paris is in the lyrics?

 

[jumbi]

this is something we are currently investigating

Annexed by Germany before getting a king?

 

[vengen]

Is it funny or creepy that Paradox collects these data and the player just can agree with it if he wants to play the game ... ?

I actually find it creepy and don't like this type of detailed monitoring of gameplay at all. I'm a relatively private person and don't like the thought that everything I do in the game is being monitored and reported. However, I am open minded and may be over-reacting. So I would be interested in what other people think about this - Am I the only one who feels uncomfortable with this kind of detailed monitoring?

 

[TitanMethos]

By the time most platers get Infantry 3, the war is kicked off, and their focus is on the fight more than their production. And since Infantry Equipment is the most crucial equipment in the game, everyone adopts a mentality of "if you're not drowning in guns, you're out of guns..." Which is often true because it's also the most demanded equipment in the game...

Of course everyone is going to play with the new nations released... they paid for them. I'd be more interested to see a summary of detailed player reviews, because the general consensus I've seen from everyone (myself included,) is you nerfed the Soviets into oblivion, then game them this uber-tree and endless decisions that are more a nuisance to navigate and use than the game's air-force wak-a-mole micromanagement... As for Poland, Great Meme Country to add... still dies in what? 90% of all games before 1941? It's a neat thing to play with, but it seems like a lot of wasted effort, meant to just annoy Germany and Russia with high-resistance provinces.

For the Designer... please for the love of god stop trying to read-players minds and go for "Let's improve the auto-designer so it's used more!" Nobody is asking for that, and even if you do improve it, no-one is going to use it because most players know what exactly they want, or are experimenting with what they want... If you want to change anything with the designers, the ability to save and load designs between games is what you have to do. Between Naval, Tanks, and the Air Designer we know is coming with the next major update, it will be one of your best quality of live improvement.

It is nice to see you've kinda broken the Meta-Template Spamming, but lets be honest... if your trying to make the metas obsolete, you swung and missed... It's cool we now have to break the usual "20-Width Spam" to get templates that are optimized for specific tiles, but the changes to most combat widths were no-where significant enough to make 20-widths ineffective in most terrains.

 

[Serensius]

For the Designer... please for the love of god stop trying to read-players minds and go for "Let's improve the auto-designer so it's used more!" Nobody is asking for that, and even if you do improve it, no-one is going to use it because most players know what exactly they want, or are experimenting with what they want...

Another plausible explanation for so few people using the auto designer could simply be that the button is incredibly tiny, and not very intuitive.

Personally I think the auto designer is a great idea, both for new players and when you just want get something decent/semi-historical out instead of getting into the nitty gritty.

 

[Putuna]

The harder difficulties will slow down your PP generation which is not a fun feature to play with. It doesn't fundamentally change the game or really make it harder. Rather it just makes you wait longer to pick the things you want. I don't personally like that so I would rather play on normal. I'll play a game of expert AI and turn up the difficulty to the highest possible setting where the AI has like 75% less attrition and add spawn in enemy divisions so I am not opposed to the AI getting "cheats". That stuff will not effect my PP generation though.

I am personally not a fan of the PP system I think the strategy should be in what designers, command staff, etc you pick and not just waiting for your political mana to fill up. Political Power makes sense for decisions/Events but not for picking your designers/staff/advisors. You could tie it with elections as in whenever their is an election it would allow you to pick new staff/designers/advisors. Just my two cents though for all I know people could love the PP system.