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HoI4 Dev Diary - Poland Focus Tree Rework Part 2/2

Hello folks and welcome back to the Poland dev-diary extravaganza! This week, I am going to continue covering the changes coming to Poland in 1.11 Barbarossa and the unannounced DLC.Today we’ll be covering the DLC content.
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So, I’m going to start here with something a bunch of you predicted last week; you can indeed play as the Peasants’ Strike! A Poland with ambitions to restore democracy or embrace the communist revolution must first build an organized peasant militia from the rabble of disorganized farmers!
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No matter how many or few states join you in the strike, the rebellious state will be in a delicate balancing act between democrats and socialists. Your first step towards revolution is to sway the Front Morges to take up the peasant’s cause, the Morges being an alliance of political parties supported by a select few Polish generals including Sikorski.
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Each focus you do in this initial block will add 5 support to either communism or democracy, with a total of 50% or more being needed for one to assert dominance over the other and take control of the government.
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Similar to the Spanish Civil War, the Peasants’ Strike will be on a tight schedule, taking up to a year before the revolution happens. Poland will at first be able to add agricultural states to the strike, but by expanding the strike to factory workers, Poland will also be able to bring states from Poland’s industrial heartland into the revolution.
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Along with contesting for popular support, gaining military support will be vital for the movement. Using decisions, certain field marshals and generals will be swayed to your cause and gain the “Peasant Sympathiser” trait, ensuring that they will join your side when the war begins.
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Poland will begin with socialist politician Stanisław Mikołajczyk as country leader, but those who wish to see the return of Wincenty Witos will be able to bring him back to leadership via event.
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Once the civil war is won, Poland will be in a vulnerable state. Recuperating manpower and resources after a civil war will place Poland in a precarious position, so some concessions and outreach for foreign assistance may be needed.
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A communist Poland will have two options: they may be bold and elect an anti-Stalinist candidate as Chairman, or they may elect the Soviet-aligned Władysław Gomułka. However, aligning with the Soviets will come at the cost of ceding Eastern Poland, but will unlock a few focuses for dealing with the USSR.

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With democracy, Poland may take advantage of the Front Morges’ ambitions for closer relations with the French and create the Morges Pact, a sort-of Poland-led Little Entente. Going down this route will allow Poland access to the Between the Seas branch we talked about last week.

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Anti-Soviet communists will be able to denounce both Capitalism and Fascism, diplomatically isolating this people’s republic, but allowing for new expansion options and military bonuses against the empires of this world. In doing so, they will gain a powerful attack and defence bonus against major powers.
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Both democrats and anti-Soviet communists will also be able to declare the destruction of fascism a greater cause than the spread of socialism and align themselves with the British Empire. Doing so will allow Poland to renew her interests in colonialism and attempt to purchase colonies from Allied powers. By officially recognising the Maritime and Colonial League, Poland can purchase Madagascar, Palestine, and more. If any of your purchases are successful, Poland will have somewhere to build their forces in exile, should the front back home fail.

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No matter which option you pick, either conquering or building alliances with the Baltic States will allow you to create a new kind of Commonwealth: the Commonwealth of Socialist Republics.

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Moving on to the next branch, we have the Regency Council: Poland’s attempt to “restore” the monarchy. The Act of the Fifth of November was the promise of the Central Powers to release a Kingdom of Poland from the occupied territories of the Russian Empire, but the Regency Council of the newly formed Kingdom of Poland failed to crown a King before Józef Piłsudski declared the Second Polish Republic.

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With the Regency Council assembled, Poland will be able to choose from one of three claimants, each with their own complete political path. There were countless claimants and candidates for the Polish throne so it was impossible for me to make content for them all, so we have: The Hohenzollern, The Commonwealth Claimant, and the Cossack-King to choose from!

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The Commonwealth Claimant is perhaps the most obvious: Poland’s preferred candidate for King was Friedrich Christian. Christian was preferred due to Poland’s long connection with the houses of Saxony, and with a claimant so supported by the Poles, you are able to claim the throne of Lithuania without the need for warfare.

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Through decisions, Poland can trend monarchist sentiment up in Lithuania, and when it reaches high enough, they may either enter a civil war or peacefully take over the government. When either case has happened, Poland can annex the Lithuanian Kingdom and begin integrating the industries of their two nations and preparing for war with the Soviets and Germans: restoring the old borders of the Commonwealth and then some!

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Poland and Romania enjoyed close relations at the start of HoI’s timeframe, and with the throne of Poland empty, Poland may throw herself into the complex mess of Romanian politics by electing a Romanian King.

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With King Michael on the throne of Poland, the Kingdoms will be able to unite under the right circumstances. Either by Polish interference or by Romania completing “King Michael’s Coup”, Romania and Poland will be united, bringing their armies together and becoming a powerful wall between the Axis and the Comintern.

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This Intermarium nation may seek Balkan Domination and a restoration of Poland-Hungary, or (as with the Commonwealth) it may seek to maintain its alignment with the Allies.

Finally, we have the most unlikely candidate for the throne: Pavel Bermondt-Avalov.
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A warlord, a cossack, and a Georgian Prince, Pavel led an interesting life of conquest and warfare. In the interwar period, Pavel and his Bermontian host invaded Lithuania and Latvia for reasons historians are still unsure of, but his ambition for Baltic domination makes him the ideal candidate for militarizing the Polish state into action and dominating the Baltics and Czechoslovakia.
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When done conquering the Baltics, Pavel will be able to either turn his militarized Polish Kingdom against the Germans and asser Poland’s claims in Silesia and Pomerania or, as a National Socialist, Pavel may wish to seek alignment with the Germans, which brings us on to the fascist branch.
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Poland was home to a multitude of fascist and nationalist movements: the most notable of which are the Endecja (or National Democracy) and the Falanga. The Sanation historically made dealings with both of these groups, and as such, if you want either Endecja or Falanga to take control, you must collaborate with the Sanation until you are able to supplant them.

When either Endecja or Falanga have taken over the government, they will have a choice to either stand firm with Polish nationalism or make concessions to the Germans and attempt to seek an alliance.
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Aligning with the Germans will not place you on equal grounds, and it is not as easy as it once was. Germany will refuse to ally with Poland unless Danzig and Poznan are surrendered and Poland becomes a German subject. Unlike Czechoslovakia though, the Poles will be able to break their shackles and tear the Reich apart from within.

With either Pavel, Piasecki, or Dmowski in control, Poland will be presented with a ladder of focuses enabling them to either gain powerful bonuses from the Germans or plot with the Underground State to overthrow their current masters.
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Going for independence will allow Poland to switch sides and stab Germany in the back, whereas remaining loyal will enable Poland to gain some cores in the USSR in a sort-of reverse Yalta Conference.
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However, a Falanga or Endecja that does not bow to the Germans will be able to lean into the Polish Catholic identity and form the Falangist International: a faction devoted to the perseverance of Falangist ideals.
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Once the Spanish Civil War is done with, if either the Carlists, Nationalists, or Falangists come out on top, Poland will be able to bring them into their own faction and from there, they will be able to expand that faction to other nations where Falangism was present such as: Mexico, the Netherlands, and much of Latin America.

They will have access to decisions to boost fascism in those nations, and with a certain percentage achieved, those nations will be invited to join the Falangist International. These focuses invite multiple nations at once, so the faction can grow very large very quickly.
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Similar to the Sanation path, the Polish fascists must choose between allying with Lithuania or attempting to reclaim the legacy of the Commonwealth, but choose wisely. Without allying Lithuania, this Poland will be unable to progress down the Between the Seas path, severely limiting their faction’s ability to expand.

That’s about it for the political paths, so I’ll wrap this one up by talking about a feature we haven’t touched in quite some time: Governments in Exile.
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Unlike France and the Netherlands, Poland does not by default have a vast colonial empire to which they may retreat when things fall apart back home, so Poland will be entirely reliant on the support and goodwill of their allies and the network of resistance fighters in the Polish Underground State.
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In exile, the Polish government went through a number of Prime Ministers and Presidents before landing on something the Allies were satisfied with. If Poland is following a historical route and is exiled in a Democratic nation like Britain or France, they will demand the resignation of the Sanation leaders, and from there, Poland may pick from one of three new leaders, each with a unique personality enabling them to gain manpower while in exile.

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On top of that, they will gain access to Irena Anders as a political adviser, granting more legitimacy, stability, and exiled manpower.

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In the exile focus tree, Poland can gain a number of offmap factories and dockyards, and bonuses to their ace generation and an increase in special forces cap. Poland will never muster a major army while exiled, but with these bonuses, Poland will still be able to keep fighting on with a small but specialised force.

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Owners of La Resistance will gain access to a slew of agency bonuses including an increase to their spy capacity, free agency upgrades via focus, and the new Warsaw Uprising operation.

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Completing the operation will trigger the Warsaw Uprising sooner than the game mechanics usually allow. With 50% resistance or higher in Polish states, the uprising can be started, but time this well as you can only complete this operation once. A well-timed uprising can shatter the German army and leave them short on supply as they attempt Operation Barbarossa.

Poland was also vital to assisting in decrypting the enigma machine, so they also gain access to the Mastermind Codebreaker advisor: Marian Rejewski.

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The old Cyclometer and Bombe focuses have been moved into the espionage branch, but I noted that without any territory left, a bonus to atomic research was fairly useless to Poland. So, when the Atomic Research focus is done, Poland gains an offmap nuclear reactor that will give roughly one nuke per year... Try not to think too hard about it.

There were a lot of interesting alternate-history scenarios for Poland to explore and new possibilities came up during my research and implementation. Though I didn’t represent everything in game (such as the proposed Japan-Polish alliance), Poland is a treasure-trove of alternate history scenarios if only you can find a way to survive.

That’s all for this week, and that wraps up the two week Poland extravaganza!
 
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Not yet, leave it to the Middle Eastern Country Pack.

Though at least Meka can rework Arabia formation for 1.11 beforehand. I'm sick of going all the way to Marrakesh just to form it when the entire Arabian Peninsula has been united a long time ago. My record is 1945 (conquest of Morocco), when the entire Peninsula sans the British colonies has been united by 1938.
I mean, it could work well with the idea of Poland getting Palestine (so yea, it could get new territory, but with two negative modifiers - first would be + to consumer goods [because of money, which was spent on buying new colonial territory from the UK], and second could be that Arab resistance which I had mentioned).
 
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they will be able to expand that faction to other nations where Falangism was present such as: [...] the Netherlands
Curious to see a citation on this. I have never heard of nor can I find anything about a Falangist movement in the Netherlands. Even among fascist catholic theologians who might have been drawn to falangism despite the lack of strong catholic ties in our national history
 
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Curious to see a citation on this. I have never heard of nor can I find anything about a Falangist movement in the Netherlands. Even among fascist catholic theologians who might have been drawn to falangism despite the lack of strong catholic ties in our national history
I think he is considering "Rexism" as "Falangism"
 
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Looking at the way the nationalistic path was designed, but not only, as well as the "knowledge" presented in the comments I have to refer to a few things, but first an outline of the National Democracy Movement (Endecja, ND)

The National Democracy movement (ND) under the leadership of Roman Dmowski was a movement born in the second half of the 19th century, which was based on nationalism, positivism, realism and the desire to build a modern nation and state, which was divided between three empires. This movement was called the "All-Polish" movement because of its all-Polish approach to the Polish question, in simplest terms: first the unification of Polish lands, then independence.

Based on nationalism, positivism and realism, National Democracy was a precursor of the return of Polish political thought to the old Piast "tracks", turning to the West and contesting the tradition of Polish romanticism and the cult of the lost 19th century Polish uprisings, as harmful, setting back the development of the nation, being the quintessence of insurrectionary Polish romanticism. ND's political thought departed from the tradition of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth as a bygone tradition, lying at the antipodes of the modern state and outdated in the era of nationalism.

Before the outbreak of the First World War, Roman Dmowski made a geopolitical analysis of the position of the great powers enslaving Poland as well as the situation of the Polish issue itself and the prospects for the restoration of the Polish state in his famous book "Germany, Russia and the Polish Question", which was translated into many languages.

Dmowski as a representative of the all-Polish movement, conducting politics in all Polish parts of the partitioned territories, paid great attention to the Polish population living in the German annexed territories. This population was institutionally Germanized, for example by the Prussian Colonization Commission and by the actions of the German state authorities. Seeing the repressions of the Germans towards the Polish population, the civilizational superiority of Germany, and German geopolitical concepts such as Mitteleuropa, where Poland was to be reduced to a residual state within the borders of a reduced Congress Poland. Dmowski concluded that it was necessary to take the side of Russia in the coming war, as a country that was much less threatening to Poland than Germany. Dmowski bet on Russia and the Entente, seeing the chances of taking the Polish "card" by the western powers of the Entente. During the Great War he founded the Polish National Committee and until 1915 he lobbied in Russia for the Polish cause, then he went to the west, where with the help of Russian diplomats he gained access to western "salons", where he could continue the policy of the Polish National Committee.

Activity in the west brought results and the Entente countries recognized the Polish National Committee as a legal Polish representation and undertook to recognize Polish independence in the new order emerging from the Great War. A Polish Army in France, numbering more than 70,000, was formed, called the Blue Army after the color of the French uniforms that the soldiers wore. Dmowski also had a broader view of Central and Eastern European affairs. In 1917, he submitted a memorandum to the Entente powers under the title "Problems of Central and Eastern Europe", in which he raised the question of the borders of the future Polish state, Czechoslovakia being in alliance with Poland, the question of the future Romania and Yugoslavia, shaping the concept of the Little Entente or the Anti-German Bloc of Central European states.

The culmination of Dmowski's World War I policy was the placing of Poland at the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 in the camp of victorious states, where he was one of the Polish delegates and the main architect of Poland's western border. Dmowski was the author of the incorporation concept, i.e. the construction of a modern unitary state, inhabited and governed by a Polish majority. His concept placed the greatest emphasis on the western lands, the so-called Piast lands, and therefore the incorporation of Upper Silesia, Greater Poland, Gdansk Pomerania, Warmia and Mazury into Poland. Dmowski also considered Polish interests in the east and sought to include areas where Poles were in the majority or constituted significant "islands" of Polish settlement, the so-called Dmowski Line.

After the peace conference, he went to Algiers for treatment of pneumonia, not playing a major role in the formation of Polish policy in the country, where the ND policy was led by Stanisław Grabski. Dmowski returned to Poland in the spring of 1920 and had his last conversation with Józef Piłsudski, criticizing his policy of federalism, which ultimately failed miserably in the face of a lack of interest on the most of the countries and nations that were to enter into a union with Poland, as well as a lack of support on the large part of Polish society, which wanted the incorporation of the Eastern Borderlands into Poland. Poland achieved a victorious draw in the war with Soviet Russia, and its eastern borders were more or less arranged along the lines of Dmowski's concept by parliamentary delegates of all major political parties, led by the Polish People's Party "Piast" (PSL "Piast") politician Jan Dąbski in the Treaty of Riga, signed by the Chief of State and Commander-in-Chief Józef Piłsudski, thus ending his failed policy of federalism.

After the period of fighting for the border and the peace time, Dmowski did not play a major role in the polict of Polish state. In 1923, he was briefly foreign minister in the second cabinet of Wincenty Witos, and after its collapse he withdrew from active politics. He returned to political activity after Józef Piłsudski's coup d'état in May 1926, establishing the Camp of Great Poland (OWP). The OWP attracted large masses of youth to the Endecja, and began to move away from parliamentary-democratic concepts towards authoritarianism. Dmowski also transformed the ineffective Popular National Union (ZL-N), which was based on parliamentary politics, into a more centralized and ideologically coherent National Party (SN). The Endeks began to call themselves a national camp, a national movement, and the more authoritarian and radical youth began to play a greater role in the SN. In the 1930's some of the most radical "youth" split (mainly youth associated with the academic movement from large cities) and formed the ONR, which split after delagalization into the ONR "ABC" and RNR "Falanga". Dmowski finally bet on the "youngs" and they began to set the tone for Endecja from the mid 30s. It was an authoritarian movement, because standing on democratic positions in sanationist Poland was pointless, and a democrat was considered a powerless man. "The Youngs" also paid more attention to the Catholic faith and proclaimed the need to build a Catholic State of the Polish Nation, being influenced by Catholic social teaching, neo-Thomism and the philosophy of Nikolai Berdyaev. "The Youngs" also created new economic concepts moving away from moderate liberalism toward distributism. The main architect of the Polish concept of distributism was Adam Doboszyński, who was inspired by Chesterton and the teachings of St. Thomas Aquinas. By the end of the 1930s, Dmowski was already very ill, and "the youngs" were designated as his successors. The main figures of the SN in the second half of the 1930s were: Tadeusz Bielecki, later president of the SN and Dmowski's successor, Jędrzej Giertych a member of the SN authorities and ideologist, Kazimierz Kowalski, president of the SN until 1939, and Adam Doboszyński, i.e. an ideologist, author of economic concepts for the SN, and a political celebrity after the famous anti-Sanation expedition to Myślenice.

And now the questions of the proposals for change:
Showing the path of Endecja as a coalition with RNR "Falanga" and the possibility of alliance with Germany, culminating in the Pact Ribbentrop-Beck is absurd. The RNR cooperated from 1937 to 1938 with the sanationist Camp of National Unity (OZN), and the possible presence of the "Falanga" should have been in the OZN tree. Endecja as fascists is a cringe, and simply does not fit into the simple scheme of typical hoi4 gameplay and alliance with the Nazis.

Endecja (National Party) was pro-French, as well as pro-Czech and pro-Romanian. Endecja should be able to join the Little Entente or form an Anti-German Bloc if France is not interested in the Little Entente. An alliance with Czechoslovakia and the creation of a puppet Lithuania should be available. Finally, an alliance with non-communist, reactionary Russia could be a nice possibility, looking at the pro-Russian policy of Endecja. Cooperation with the Soviets does not make much sense and the Sanation authorities had more possibilities for cooperation. Also, a possible alliance with nationalist Spain and Italy, if these did not join the Axis, would be advisable. Assistance to Spanish nationalists in the civil war, who were strongly supported by Endecja, would also be a bonus.

The geopolitical minimum goal in a future war with Germany for Endecja or Polish nationalists in general was to regain Upper Silesia, East Prussia and the Lębork-Bytów region. There were also voices calling for the establishment of a Polish western border on the Oder-Neisse line and the creation of the Sorbian state, a small West Slavic nation inhabiting Lusatia. During the Second World War and after the experiences of the German occupation policy, the Oder-Neisse border became a cornerstone in the concepts of the Polish nationalists.

As for RNR "Falanga", it was also an anti-German, anti-Nazi group. During the war the Falangists formed partisan units fighting against the Germans, and many Falangists took part in the Warsaw Uprising. In the RNR, concepts of a Slavic Empire emerged during the German and Soviet occupation, and this is what the focus of the National Commonwealth should be replaced with.

Collaboration was committed by individuals, without much support. If you want to switch the scenario to an alliance with Germany, it should be available for Sanation, accepting German proposals from October, November 1938 or January 1939. The most famous Germanophile was Władysław Studnicki, who tried to collaborate with Germany during World War II, just as he did during World War I.

Basic changes to be made:
- Endecja as neutral ideology not fascists!
- Possibility for Endecja to join the Small Entente or to create an anti-German bloc and alliance with Czechoslovakia with the possibility of arbitration by the great powers or Little Entente states on the question of Zaolzie.
- The possibility of creating a Sorbian state for Endecja and giving part of East Prussia to Lithuania.
- RNR as a supplement of the sanationist GISZ-OZN path
- Sanation with Beck as Foreign Minister in the lead should have the possibility of alliance with Germany. The same for Walery Slawek's Colonels
- Prometheism, i.e., ripping Soviet Russia apart at the national seams and creating Ukraine and Belarus in confederation with Poland. Plus support for the independence of Georgia, Azerbaijan, Crimean Tatars, Idel-Ural and other Promethean states. This is a great content for the Second Russian Civil War
- Consideration of national minorities. National spirits, decisions, events. Turkey-style mechanics
- Replacing the Avalov path with the Habsburg path for God's sake.
- Removal of Wieniawa and Raczkiewicz as emigration leaders. Wieniawa was unacceptable to the Allies, and Raczkiewicz was the president who "ceded" power to Sikorski. It was Sikorski who was the central figure. After his death Mikołajczyk should become the leader
- The possibility of a Zapadoslavia with King George for a government in exile under Sikorski when the USSR loses to Germany. (Benes preferred to make a deal with communists, and used the idea of union politically)
- Polish Armed Forces in USSR so called Berling's Army for communists as one of the choices during exile.
- Replacing the Romanian monarchy path with a Polish monarchy with Janusz Radziwiłł as a king.
- Improve portraits, mainly it's about coloring and bad sources.


I hope that the nationalistic path as well as the rest will be redesigned and, what can I say, repaired. I keep my fingers crossed and believe in you guys.
 
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Exactly, that's why I went with Koszutska for the anti-Soviet option. She was openly opposed to Stalinism during HoI's timeframe, being arrested for it in 37.

That would be the Black Madonna. There were pictures from the time of the Peasant's Strike of demonstrators holding banners depicting the Black Madonna. She's a bit of an icon in Poland.

This is more to do with Germany than Poland tbh. Germany had no intention of stopping at Danzig, and despite the efforts of many Polish politicians, generals, and diplomats to pursue friendly relations with Germany, war was inevitable. A Poland that sides with Germany must do so at a cost, or you can of course try to fight them.
So why not give a player option to decide who would be a leader of Independent socialist Poland ? I think simple event would suficie. When player go with Polisch socializm focus event whill happen about infighting in ranks of KPP and player then may decide to inprison Koszutska meaking Ochab / Gomułka a leader with other as minister or side with Koszutska and living her on charge. Also surendering to USSR would be exclusive a Bierut path. Going that road player may unlock specjal ministers Berman and Minc ( without them Bierut would never steyed in power) and decyzion to create cult od person around Bierut wich adds some bonuses to sweet a fact of submision to forgain power.
 
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Maybe I didn’t see it or I didn’t read it well. But why did not I see the main goal of the Polish leadership, headed by Jozef Pilsudski, was the restoration of Poland within the historical borders of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth of 1772, with the establishment of control over Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania, partly Russian territory and geopolitical domination in Eastern Europe.
 
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hey the dev is still replying, that is epic :D

I think I have already posted this but, are you going to include more reichskommissariats and reichsprotektorats like the generalgouvernement, that would make the the map a lot more enjoyable to look at, I am a really big fan of aesthetics so that would be a big deal for me ngl :cool:

btw the tree is good, wish Romania didn't get a tree so early in the game, just imagine what you could have done with it now that the tree's have evolved :eek:
 
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I have a suggestion regarding Polish nuclear focus, maybe that could pop up an event regarding on how you want to use youe nuclear scientists and you would have 3 options, first one being using them to support the UK and making them receive one off map nuclear reactor as well as you gaining legitimacy, the oner one could be supporting the US, which could give them maybe 2 offmap reactors as historically they offered more funds for nuclear research, but no legitimacy. The third one could be "We will make use of our scientists when we liberate home" which gives you a nuclear research boost as well as a in map reactor when you LIBERATE your homeland, which historically didn't really happen, but could still be used if you want your own polish nukes but without being too hard to believe.
Hmm, nice one.
 
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So, I posted this at the other post that was opened by Podcat, but also thought this would be valluable here, my overall opinion on something that could be done to the polish nuclear focus! :
I have a suggestion regarding Polish nuclear focus, maybe that could pop up an event regarding on how you want to use your nuclear scientists, and you would have 3 options, first one being using them to support the UK and making them receive one off map nuclear reactor as well as you gaining legitimacy, the other one could be supporting the US, which could give them maybe 2 offmap reactors as historically they offered more funds for nuclear research, but no legitimacy. The third one could be "We will make use of our scientists when we liberate home" which gives you a nuclear research boost as well as a in map reactor when you LIBERATE your homeland, which historically didn't really happen as the soviets never allowed the London exiled government to return, but could still be used if you want your own polish nukes but without being too hard to believe if you manage to liberate your polish cores as the exileds!
 
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@podcat I'm not totally in favor of creating an exclusive Warsaw Uprising mission to Poland, but if development continues this path, there any possibility that other countries will receive exclusive missions, like Japan to incite the Marco-Polo Incident, or PRC to spread and make a communist uprising inside China, or Italy to sink Capital ships in Alexandria (i think you already discovered why i am against it)?
 
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But you shouldn't have any hope of producing a nuke. You're a Polish government in exile without a country!!! Before 1945!!!! I dont see how this is even a question here.
take it easy this is fun alt history not everything has to be balanced and historical, besides one reactor would not give you that many nukes either way just one or two every few years this is not as op as it sounds
 
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