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HoI4 Dev Diary - Poland Focus Tree Rework Part 2/2

Hello folks and welcome back to the Poland dev-diary extravaganza! This week, I am going to continue covering the changes coming to Poland in 1.11 Barbarossa and the unannounced DLC.Today we’ll be covering the DLC content.
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So, I’m going to start here with something a bunch of you predicted last week; you can indeed play as the Peasants’ Strike! A Poland with ambitions to restore democracy or embrace the communist revolution must first build an organized peasant militia from the rabble of disorganized farmers!
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No matter how many or few states join you in the strike, the rebellious state will be in a delicate balancing act between democrats and socialists. Your first step towards revolution is to sway the Front Morges to take up the peasant’s cause, the Morges being an alliance of political parties supported by a select few Polish generals including Sikorski.
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Each focus you do in this initial block will add 5 support to either communism or democracy, with a total of 50% or more being needed for one to assert dominance over the other and take control of the government.
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Similar to the Spanish Civil War, the Peasants’ Strike will be on a tight schedule, taking up to a year before the revolution happens. Poland will at first be able to add agricultural states to the strike, but by expanding the strike to factory workers, Poland will also be able to bring states from Poland’s industrial heartland into the revolution.
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Along with contesting for popular support, gaining military support will be vital for the movement. Using decisions, certain field marshals and generals will be swayed to your cause and gain the “Peasant Sympathiser” trait, ensuring that they will join your side when the war begins.
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Poland will begin with socialist politician Stanisław Mikołajczyk as country leader, but those who wish to see the return of Wincenty Witos will be able to bring him back to leadership via event.
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Once the civil war is won, Poland will be in a vulnerable state. Recuperating manpower and resources after a civil war will place Poland in a precarious position, so some concessions and outreach for foreign assistance may be needed.
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A communist Poland will have two options: they may be bold and elect an anti-Stalinist candidate as Chairman, or they may elect the Soviet-aligned Władysław Gomułka. However, aligning with the Soviets will come at the cost of ceding Eastern Poland, but will unlock a few focuses for dealing with the USSR.

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With democracy, Poland may take advantage of the Front Morges’ ambitions for closer relations with the French and create the Morges Pact, a sort-of Poland-led Little Entente. Going down this route will allow Poland access to the Between the Seas branch we talked about last week.

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Anti-Soviet communists will be able to denounce both Capitalism and Fascism, diplomatically isolating this people’s republic, but allowing for new expansion options and military bonuses against the empires of this world. In doing so, they will gain a powerful attack and defence bonus against major powers.
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Both democrats and anti-Soviet communists will also be able to declare the destruction of fascism a greater cause than the spread of socialism and align themselves with the British Empire. Doing so will allow Poland to renew her interests in colonialism and attempt to purchase colonies from Allied powers. By officially recognising the Maritime and Colonial League, Poland can purchase Madagascar, Palestine, and more. If any of your purchases are successful, Poland will have somewhere to build their forces in exile, should the front back home fail.

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No matter which option you pick, either conquering or building alliances with the Baltic States will allow you to create a new kind of Commonwealth: the Commonwealth of Socialist Republics.

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Moving on to the next branch, we have the Regency Council: Poland’s attempt to “restore” the monarchy. The Act of the Fifth of November was the promise of the Central Powers to release a Kingdom of Poland from the occupied territories of the Russian Empire, but the Regency Council of the newly formed Kingdom of Poland failed to crown a King before Józef Piłsudski declared the Second Polish Republic.

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With the Regency Council assembled, Poland will be able to choose from one of three claimants, each with their own complete political path. There were countless claimants and candidates for the Polish throne so it was impossible for me to make content for them all, so we have: The Hohenzollern, The Commonwealth Claimant, and the Cossack-King to choose from!

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The Commonwealth Claimant is perhaps the most obvious: Poland’s preferred candidate for King was Friedrich Christian. Christian was preferred due to Poland’s long connection with the houses of Saxony, and with a claimant so supported by the Poles, you are able to claim the throne of Lithuania without the need for warfare.

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Through decisions, Poland can trend monarchist sentiment up in Lithuania, and when it reaches high enough, they may either enter a civil war or peacefully take over the government. When either case has happened, Poland can annex the Lithuanian Kingdom and begin integrating the industries of their two nations and preparing for war with the Soviets and Germans: restoring the old borders of the Commonwealth and then some!

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Poland and Romania enjoyed close relations at the start of HoI’s timeframe, and with the throne of Poland empty, Poland may throw herself into the complex mess of Romanian politics by electing a Romanian King.

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With King Michael on the throne of Poland, the Kingdoms will be able to unite under the right circumstances. Either by Polish interference or by Romania completing “King Michael’s Coup”, Romania and Poland will be united, bringing their armies together and becoming a powerful wall between the Axis and the Comintern.

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This Intermarium nation may seek Balkan Domination and a restoration of Poland-Hungary, or (as with the Commonwealth) it may seek to maintain its alignment with the Allies.

Finally, we have the most unlikely candidate for the throne: Pavel Bermondt-Avalov.
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A warlord, a cossack, and a Georgian Prince, Pavel led an interesting life of conquest and warfare. In the interwar period, Pavel and his Bermontian host invaded Lithuania and Latvia for reasons historians are still unsure of, but his ambition for Baltic domination makes him the ideal candidate for militarizing the Polish state into action and dominating the Baltics and Czechoslovakia.
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When done conquering the Baltics, Pavel will be able to either turn his militarized Polish Kingdom against the Germans and asser Poland’s claims in Silesia and Pomerania or, as a National Socialist, Pavel may wish to seek alignment with the Germans, which brings us on to the fascist branch.
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Poland was home to a multitude of fascist and nationalist movements: the most notable of which are the Endecja (or National Democracy) and the Falanga. The Sanation historically made dealings with both of these groups, and as such, if you want either Endecja or Falanga to take control, you must collaborate with the Sanation until you are able to supplant them.

When either Endecja or Falanga have taken over the government, they will have a choice to either stand firm with Polish nationalism or make concessions to the Germans and attempt to seek an alliance.
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Aligning with the Germans will not place you on equal grounds, and it is not as easy as it once was. Germany will refuse to ally with Poland unless Danzig and Poznan are surrendered and Poland becomes a German subject. Unlike Czechoslovakia though, the Poles will be able to break their shackles and tear the Reich apart from within.

With either Pavel, Piasecki, or Dmowski in control, Poland will be presented with a ladder of focuses enabling them to either gain powerful bonuses from the Germans or plot with the Underground State to overthrow their current masters.
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Going for independence will allow Poland to switch sides and stab Germany in the back, whereas remaining loyal will enable Poland to gain some cores in the USSR in a sort-of reverse Yalta Conference.
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However, a Falanga or Endecja that does not bow to the Germans will be able to lean into the Polish Catholic identity and form the Falangist International: a faction devoted to the perseverance of Falangist ideals.
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Once the Spanish Civil War is done with, if either the Carlists, Nationalists, or Falangists come out on top, Poland will be able to bring them into their own faction and from there, they will be able to expand that faction to other nations where Falangism was present such as: Mexico, the Netherlands, and much of Latin America.

They will have access to decisions to boost fascism in those nations, and with a certain percentage achieved, those nations will be invited to join the Falangist International. These focuses invite multiple nations at once, so the faction can grow very large very quickly.
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Similar to the Sanation path, the Polish fascists must choose between allying with Lithuania or attempting to reclaim the legacy of the Commonwealth, but choose wisely. Without allying Lithuania, this Poland will be unable to progress down the Between the Seas path, severely limiting their faction’s ability to expand.

That’s about it for the political paths, so I’ll wrap this one up by talking about a feature we haven’t touched in quite some time: Governments in Exile.
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Unlike France and the Netherlands, Poland does not by default have a vast colonial empire to which they may retreat when things fall apart back home, so Poland will be entirely reliant on the support and goodwill of their allies and the network of resistance fighters in the Polish Underground State.
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In exile, the Polish government went through a number of Prime Ministers and Presidents before landing on something the Allies were satisfied with. If Poland is following a historical route and is exiled in a Democratic nation like Britain or France, they will demand the resignation of the Sanation leaders, and from there, Poland may pick from one of three new leaders, each with a unique personality enabling them to gain manpower while in exile.

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On top of that, they will gain access to Irena Anders as a political adviser, granting more legitimacy, stability, and exiled manpower.

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In the exile focus tree, Poland can gain a number of offmap factories and dockyards, and bonuses to their ace generation and an increase in special forces cap. Poland will never muster a major army while exiled, but with these bonuses, Poland will still be able to keep fighting on with a small but specialised force.

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Owners of La Resistance will gain access to a slew of agency bonuses including an increase to their spy capacity, free agency upgrades via focus, and the new Warsaw Uprising operation.

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Completing the operation will trigger the Warsaw Uprising sooner than the game mechanics usually allow. With 50% resistance or higher in Polish states, the uprising can be started, but time this well as you can only complete this operation once. A well-timed uprising can shatter the German army and leave them short on supply as they attempt Operation Barbarossa.

Poland was also vital to assisting in decrypting the enigma machine, so they also gain access to the Mastermind Codebreaker advisor: Marian Rejewski.

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The old Cyclometer and Bombe focuses have been moved into the espionage branch, but I noted that without any territory left, a bonus to atomic research was fairly useless to Poland. So, when the Atomic Research focus is done, Poland gains an offmap nuclear reactor that will give roughly one nuke per year... Try not to think too hard about it.

There were a lot of interesting alternate-history scenarios for Poland to explore and new possibilities came up during my research and implementation. Though I didn’t represent everything in game (such as the proposed Japan-Polish alliance), Poland is a treasure-trove of alternate history scenarios if only you can find a way to survive.

That’s all for this week, and that wraps up the two week Poland extravaganza!
 
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Something I would also like to chime in about is that, like most other trees that exist in-game, democratic routes are getting the short end of the stick in terms of interesting choices and content.

A few areas to consider for making the democratic routes more than just a formality that few bother to play:

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General Władysław Sikorski, a big political activist in the Front Morges, was a huge proponent of mobile warfare. Sikorski found himself on the wrong political side after Józef Piłsudski's May Coup of 1926 and was sidelined as a result. But in the interwar era, he published books that prophetically warned of the danger of potential German rearmament and that the future of warfare would be mobile operations once again.
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Simply put, going the route of Morges or any other democratic ideology that he is compatible with could feature a branch that allows Poland to rapidly switch over a mobile warfare doctrine (some 300%x bonuses), helping to catch up to developments in tactics and organization made by other countries.

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Speaking of the May 1926 coup and the Sanation government's officer purge, one of the big problems in the military and government was nepotism. Many military officers and government officials were in positions of power due to their allegiances. Re-establishing fairness in civil service promotions and in promotions for the army could be a major feature of any democratic branch (not just left-leaning democratic, but also nationalist parties as well--anything not Sanacja).
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From a historical multiplayer standpoint, Poland has the problem in that developing Poland also develops Germany whom your faction will be struggling against. One of the main incentives of a democratic route might be to switch development of factories acquired from on-map factories into offmap factories. While featuring a mix of free-market tendencies, the agrarian parties had a program calling for major financial assistance and land redistribution for assisting small farmers (not so efficient from a macro-economic standpoint). With economic developments focused on social stability in the rural east, where a political branch like Morges can acquire production is from investments and acquisitions abroad in other countries. A huge diaspora of ethnic poles lived in communities abroad and business ties and investments in other countries could be the main focal point of such a tree. Having offmap assets gives the benefit of not-feeding Germany if they conquer Poland and in having a stronger army in exile. Such a branch would be the star-option for semi-historical factions multiplayer.

If such an off-map factory branch existed, I think people would be slightly less prone to banning Poland in multiplayer lobbies with in-house rules.
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As you get to programs further left-leaning than than the biggest agrarian movements (socialism, communism, etc), two of the biggest things to represent are mechanization of Poland's agriculture and the education of minorities. While Poland was self-sufficient from an agricultural standpoint, small peasant farms and their competitive potential for exporting to foreign markets were absolutely atrocious. The main goals of farming collectives were to pool knowledge and mechanical maintenance talent so that many small farms could operate modern equipment, sharing and taking turns. Lookup the economic programs of socialist parties like PPS (see Zygmunt Zaremba) and you'll see economic plans aimed at trying to make Poland's agricultural exports competitive again. Moreover, with a greater focus on rural minorities comes better access to education. In general, to acquire a public education (private options existed though), one had to do it through the Polish language. One of the main points of party platforms of these very far-left leaning parties was to provide education for minorities in their own languages given that a sizeable chunk of non-Polish persons lived in Poland.
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All of these are just a bunch of small things that could be quickly added with a few focuses for the sake of gameplay variety.
 
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Would You be kind, to explain please, why did you put some kind of completely unknown Cossack King as a pretender to throne of Poland, while didn't put Karol von Habsburg Żywiecki, who was even polish officer and was a pretender to polish throne after establishment of Kingdom of Poland by Edict of November 5th from 1916??
 
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Hello Meka66,

First:
I must say, you put immense work in the new Polish FT. Thanks for that. Although this Poland is going to be much harder to prepare I think.
Normally I go just building Factories quickly deciding whom I want to fight (Germany, Russia or both at once). Then I get enough exp (Attachees do the trick in Japanese War), to rush down the land doctrines and last I build a somewhat defense against my enemies (after I took Lithuania and Latvia "back").

I get just enough equipment and factories (CVs and MFs) to maintain a very good production and industry once my first major war starts...

Now this is all to be obsolete... I hate and love it at the same time ;)


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Now, the A-bombs are a real meme, but it will be late I guess unless someone rushes it and therefore being guilty by himself to see the Polish A-bomb gardening Berlin.

The underground state things maybe make Poland more fun to play in MP, thanks.


Third:

Meka66 PLEASE MAKE SURE THE FIGHTER MODELS FOR POLAND ARE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!!!!
Interwar Fighters have the Polish modern Models, while the Interwar Models are shown for the 1936+ techs.

BTW: Will there be some new models for tanks or other gfx-stuff besides the long long awaited Generals and so on???
 
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What a mess.
 
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No, the Falangist International will invite any of the right-wing Spains who win; Carlist, Falangist, or Franco's Spain.

It's Schrodinger's nuclear reactor.

You get a bonus to your special forces cap. I wanted to give you the ability to build your own special divisions instead of being railroaded into making the historical ones.

There's a lot of interesting paths I wish I could've done, but the tree is already pretty huge compared to what we usually do and we only have so much time to implement and test everything. A Polish-Japanese alliance for smashing the USSR would have been fun, but it would have required a bunch of extra work and there's only so much time. If you're in multiplayer, there's nothing stopping you from joining the Co-Prosperity Sphere or inviting Japan to the Intermarrium though.

I'll make a note to change it, thank you for the suggestion!

No, Germany gets an event where they can respond "Yes, no, or yes but only if you gib Danzig" the AI will usually just say yes or no, but the player can ask for Danzig if they want to.
There's a lot of intersting paths so you choose the most ridiculous? Seriously, Cossak king, who was never connected with Poland? What is this absurd idea and who came up with something like that? You can make many alternative path, like Polish-Czech Union, Karol Habsburg as polish King, or even add Władysław Studnicki and his proposition of alliance with Germany. And Ribbentrop-Beck pact in Endecja-ONR part? After all, Beck had never been a member of Endecja. Who came up with it?
 
Im really happy seeing that Meka66 thanked us for the feedback, it means a lot to see that as a community we actually have a say in what is actually happening, this guy is already my favorite Dev Diary writer just because of the humour and recognizing when the community doesn't necessarily agree with something, cheers.
Comments like this genuinely make our day <3
Something I would also like to chime in about is that, like most other trees that exist in-game, democratic routes are getting the short end of the stick in terms of interesting choices and content.

A few areas to consider for making the democratic routes more than just a formality that few bother to play:

Simply put, going the route of Morges or any other democratic ideology that he is compatible with could feature a branch that allows Poland to rapidly switch over a mobile warfare doctrine (some 300%x bonuses), helping to catch up to developments in tactics and organization made by other countries.

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All of these are just a bunch of small things that could be quickly added with a few focuses for the sake of gameplay variety.
Some pretty interesting suggestions, thank you! We're unlikely to be able to implement most of this as Poland is currently moving out of the implementation phase, but some things can be adjusted in polish (no pun intended).
What kind of ice cream? :)
Mango sorbet and blueberry icecream. The mango was pretty good, blueberry was alright. Overall, Stockholm ice cream is acceptable.
 
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One thing that is lacking in this rework is Polish, they have no benefits when it comes to deciphering enemy intelligence since their scientists helped to decipher the German enigma machine.
 
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One thing that is lacking in this rework is Polish, they have no benefits when it comes to deciphering enemy intelligence since their scientists helped to decipher the German enigma machine.
They have access to Marian Rejewski who gives you extra decryption strength.
 
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There's a lot of interesting paths I wish I could've done, but the tree is already pretty huge compared to what we usually do and we only have so much time to implement and test everything. A Polish-Japanese alliance for smashing the USSR would have been fun, but it would have required a bunch of extra work and there's only so much time. If you're in multiplayer, there's nothing stopping you from joining the Co-Prosperity Sphere or inviting Japan to the Intermarrium though.
I can both understand it and not. I'm ok if you won't implement Japanese alliance. I can be slightly dissapointed, but ok with it, but please admit that Pavel Bermondt-Avalov is complete failure and if you really need him to be implemented at least don't make him the king. No sane person in Poland would choose unimportant cossack warlord from politically irrelevant dynasty as their king
 
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What about a True Polish King ? like from the Poniatowski or Radziwill dynasties or other polish dynasties that ruled poland since year 966 , not some georgians , hohenzollerns , habsburgs.
I'm pretty sure that some of those were still alive back in the 30's
 
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As Belarusian, I'm really disappointed with no national spirits to represent Belarusians and Ukrainians lived in West Belarus and West Ukraine (also known as East Poland). National movements in Second Polish Republic could be mentioned as Yugoslavian ones were.

Also I didn't understand motivation for introducing Pavel Bermondt-Avalov as candidate for Polish crown. This Russian aristocrat indeed was fighting Latvia and Lithuania, but had no relations to Poland. I can imagine King of Romania or Saxon aristocrat as candidates, can't imagine Poland would stand with Russian aristocrat as its king.

Nevertheless, I want to thank @Meka66 for really cool Polish rework. Every political path is very interesting or funny (Bermondt). Can't wait for play as reworked Poland and hope there will be given some attention for Belarusians and Ukrainians in Poland until release.
 
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What about a True Polish King ? like from the Poniatowski or Radziwill dynasties or other polish dynasties that ruled poland since year 966 , not some georgians , hohenzollerns , habsburgs.
I'm pretty sure that some of those were still alive back in the 30's
Could be hard...
Poniatowski House wasn't really important. I'm almost sure this dynasty died out. Radziwil ok, but not the obvious choice. Jaggielons and Piasts died out and Piasts died out as dynasty mostly German. So your ideas are really bad...
 
Could be hard...
Poniatowski House wasn't really important. I'm almost sure this dynasty died out. Radziwil ok, but not the obvious choice. Jaggielons and Piasts died out and Piasts died out as dynasty mostly German. So your ideas are really bad...
I don't claim those ideas to be good , not at all , but i can hardly see a polish kingdom without at least a polish option , hohenzollerns , habsburgs , those dynasties dismantled poland in the 18th century and somebody want to put them on the throne of poland ? , and a georgian guy too ? , they can claim it but do they deserve it more than a polish dynasty ? even a minor one ? Poniatowskis ruled over poland for some years too.
 
Could be hard...
Poniatowski House wasn't really important. I'm almost sure this dynasty died out. Radziwil ok, but not the obvious choice. Jaggielons and Piasts died out and Piasts died out as dynasty mostly German. So your ideas are really bad...
When it comes to the Polish monarchy, there were several concepts. Some wanted Wettin or Czartoryski, there were concepts to create a Polish-Czech union under the rule of George, Duke of Kent. The Belgian Coburgs and the young dukes of Savoy were also considered among the candidates. Of course, there was also Stanisław Cat-Mackiewicz with his idea for Józef Piłsudski to become king.
 
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Instead of nuclear reactors off map,
i want to see a conjunct invasion of poland. Soviets and Germans invading at the same time but the allies only declaring war on Germany. and alternative vercions of this instead of memes
 
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I don't claim those ideas to be good , not at all , but i can hardly see a polish kingdom without at least a polish option , hohenzollerns , habsburgs , those dynasties dismantled poland in the 18th century and somebody want to put them on the throne of poland ? , and a georgian guy too ? , they can claim it but do they deserve it more than a polish dynasty ? even a minor one ? Poniatowskis ruled over poland for some years too.
Habsburg we're talking about was Polish person, was fighting in Polish army. He was given opportunity to leave Poland unscathed by signing to volkslist, but he refused. He was Polish through and through. It's not dynasty that matters (at least in his case) :)

Btw. Poniatowski is dynasty with Italian roots and they had only one king Stanisław August, who was the candidate from "Familia" - Czartoryski lead alliance of houses. Prince Józef never was a king or ruler in general. He was preferred heir for Stanisław August, but partitions happened. Tho Duchy of Warsaw existed it was not Prince Józef who ruled in it.
 
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To put into perspective the Polish-Hungarian union ended in 1444, after the death of Wladyslaw III at the battle of Varna. EU4 starts on the day after his death and that game doesn't let you restore it for a while, yet you will be able to do it in a WW2 game.
 
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